Using too much Hydroguard or Southern AG bad?

Normally I dilute Southern AG down to 1:20 water ratio then use 1ml per 4L.

However, I read you can't add too much beneficial bacteria so I added 10x of my usual amount. The next day my airstones are covered in clear slime.
 

eyderbuddy

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SAG is a brand, hes probably asking about their branded microbes...

Only thing i know is that above a the stated "high rate", you will get greatly diminished returns
 
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fragileassassin

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1ml per 5-10 gallons is how i use it. Per 5 on a fresh change and per 10 on a weekly top off.
Thats 1ml per 20/40 liters

My 35 gal veg system usually gets a 5-6ml shot and the 60 gal flower system gets 8-10ml. Once a week.
I just pull water into my 30ml syringe and shoot it into the res.
 

FuqStiK

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Normally I dilute Southern AG down to 1:20 water ratio then use 1ml per 4L.

However, I read you can't add too much beneficial bacteria so I added 10x of my usual amount. The next day my airstones are covered in clear slime.
I use 0.2ml/gallon
 

icetech

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20-40ml per 4gal is alot of SAG GFF. Is that diluted amount or concentrated amount?
It may be a bit diluted as i breed it in a bucket so i have tons of the stuff... i usually use 2 10ml droppers worth per 4gal+bout 5ml of straight out of the bottle.. just cause i need to use it up eventually anyway .
 

Zeds

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i use 1mL per waterfarm (2 gals)
Hi, can I ask you if 1mL is pure GFF out of the bottle or is it 1ml of pre diluted 1:20 solution?
Please give me a hand to understand

Also anyone knows if the product called Amylo-X LC is the same one on Europe market?

I will run a Dutch pot system or maybe an ebb and flow system, in both cases with hydroton, have you some recommendations to use the product in these system?
 
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rkymtnman

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Hi, can I ask you if 1mL is pure GFF out of the bottle or is it 1ml of pre diluted 1:20 solution?
Please give me a hand to understand

Also anyone knows if the product called Amylo-X LC is the same one on Europe market?

I will run a Dutch pot system or maybe an ebb and flow system, in both cases with hydroton, have you some recommendations to use the product in these system?
i'm totally against diluting it. it's so cheap it's not needed and (probably) reduces its' effectiveness.

do you have a link to that product? is it the same strain as hydroguard/GFF?
 

Zeds

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i'm totally against diluting it. it's so cheap it's not needed and (probably) reduces its' effectiveness.

do you have a link to that product? is it the same strain as hydroguard/GFF?
The strain is D747 I attach the data sheet, here the link to website: https://www.biogard.it/prodotto/amylo-x-lc-2/
It's the only product that I found in Europe, it's made by Certis U.S.A. as you can read in the data sheet, it shoul be the same company that produces Double Nickel
 

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Rurumo

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Don't dilute it, honestly you have no idea how much of it is still alive and active. They say to replace it every 6 months if there is any left by then. It isn't something you need to be super careful about. I give 5 ml per 3 gallons every 2 weeks, and use 1 ml per liter for foliar-Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide (bacillus amyloliquefaciens) is one of the single best products you can buy for your grow. It really works, read up on some of the studies done on it...increases growth rate/yield, induces SAR, prevents root rot, PM and Botrytis (foliar). Besides a good complete nutrient, I would not be without it. The only other products I add are hydrolyzed amino acids, kelp extract, and chitosan, and I would buy the Southern Ag before any of that stuff.
 

Zeds

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Don't dilute it, honestly you have no idea how much of it is still alive and active. They say to replace it every 6 months if there is any left by then. It isn't something you need to be super careful about. I give 5 ml per 3 gallons every 2 weeks, and use 1 ml per liter for foliar-Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide (bacillus amyloliquefaciens) is one of the single best products you can buy for your grow. It really works, read up on some of the studies done on it...increases growth rate/yield, induces SAR, prevents root rot, PM and Botrytis (foliar). Besides a good complete nutrient, I would not be without it. The only other products I add are hydrolyzed amino acids, kelp extract, and chitosan, and I would buy the Southern Ag before any of that stuff.
Thanks for your advices, I will use also for Botrytis! 5 ml per 3 gallons of water is in hydro?
 
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