Why I hope Trump's future trial is televised.

hanimmal

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Mainly the lack of both sides being able to work on common sense issues like infrastructure making housing more affordable better funding for college it’s gotten crazy how expensive even Community college is. I know my killary comment made me sound a bit right wing but I’m definitely more center And should tone that down it’s not very constructive. I want America to grow and become more whole again hate all the division.
I would point to the fact that Democrats have only had power on the federal level to get things done for all of 6 years over the last 50 years, and each president only had 2 years to get things done (and they did). McCain was right when he said we need to get back to doing the work of the American people. Unfortunately for us, the Republicans only need things to not get done for their 'base' to get what they want.

Community college is actually one of the things Biden wants to work on as well.

https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/#
 

schuylaar

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Mainly the lack of both sides being able to work on common sense issues like infrastructure making housing more affordable better funding for college it’s gotten crazy how expensive even Community college is. I know my killary comment made me sound a bit right wing but I’m definitely more center And should tone that down it’s not very constructive. I want America to grow and become more whole again hate all the division.
making school and housing more affordable for the cherubs with mommys and daddys and deep pockets? you know they sold that shit here in town as 55+ housing and when everyone voted it CSU kids have more brand new on the way..this is the shit they want us to live in..this is the nicer one.

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hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/what-we-know--and-still-want-to-know--about-trumps-company/2020/09/28/3f9e8552-0189-11eb-b7ed-141dd88560ea_story.html
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On Sunday, the New York Times revealed that it had obtained President Trump’s tax returns for much of the past 20 years — a trove of never-before-seen financial data from inside the president’s private business.

Trump had refused to release those returns himself, unlike all other recent presidents. And he had gone to the Supreme Court to stop Congress and the Manhattan district attorney from obtaining them.

The Times report shows one reason Trump might have wanted to keep the returns secret. It said Trump had paid just $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and again in 2017 — and no federal income taxes at all in many previous years. The reason: Trump’s businesses routinely reported losing more money than they made, a fact that saved Trump on his taxes but belied the gold-plated-CEO image he presented to the public.

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In recent years, the Times reported, these losses had a silver lining: By counterbalancing income from Trump’s moneymaking properties, they helped reduce Trump’s tax bills to $750, or to zero.

But now, the Times reported, bigger problems are looming. Trump owes $421 million in loans and other debts, many of them attached to money-losing properties (whose fortunes have only gotten worse this year as the coronavirus pandemic has hammered Trump properties along with the rest of the travel business). In many cases, those loans will come due in the next few years, and Trump has guaranteed them personally. If Trump wins reelection, that could mean many of his properties will face severe financial pressure during his second term.

2. Was Trump really under audit for years and years as he claimed?

Yes, apparently.

The reason, according to the Times, was an enormous $72.9 million tax refund that Trump claimed in 2010. Since then, the Times reported, the IRS has been trying to determine whether Trump actually deserved that refund, which was based on his claims of losses after the 2008 financial crisis.

The Times said that the fight over this refund has gone to a special congressional committee, the Joint Committee on Taxation, which is required to weigh in on all refunds greater than $2 million to individuals. Trump’s case is still pending, and he could have to repay more than $100 million if he loses.

Trump has repeatedly cited an IRS audit as a reason he cannot release his tax returns. But in the past, the IRS has said taxpayers are free to release their tax returns, even if they are under audit.

3. Has Trump’s company taken money from people who want to influence U.S. policy?

We already knew the answer was yes. Since Trump was elected, his luxury properties have hosted an array of customers who want favorable treatment from the government: foreign governments, right-wing groups, lobbying firms and executives from T-Mobile — who spent $195,000 at Trump’s D.C. hotel after they announced a merger needing government approval, The Post first reported. The Post found T-Mobile’s chief executive in the lobby of the Trump hotel. He said he chose the hotel because it was comfortable and close to his meetings at the Justice Department.

But the Times report provides new details, on previously unknown payments. It said a roofing manufacturer spent $1.5 million at Doral, while the roofing industry was lobbying for looser regulations. And a conservative Christian group, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, spent nearly $400,000 at Trump’s D.C. hotel for a banquet.

The Billy Graham group said it was hosting a conference at Washington’s Mayflower Hotel but used Trump’s hotel for the closing banquet because the Mayflower did not have enough space. “President Trump’s commitment to uphold religous liberty was well documented before May 2017, so we don’t believe the banquet’s venue influenced this issue,” spokesman Mark Barber said.

The roofing company declined comment.

Doral and Trump’s D.C. hotel still lost money. But the losses at those properties show how vulnerable Trump could be to conflicts of interest — or at least the appearance of conflicts — if his properties are struggling and in need of big-spending customers.

What we still don't know

1. Will Trump’s tax practices increase the legal trouble he is already facing?

The president is already facing at least two state-level investigations of his business. New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) is investigating whether the Trump Organization misled potential lenders and tax authorities by exaggerating the value of its properties. Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D), the Manhattan district attorney, is conducting a separate investigation — one that began with questions about payoffs to women just before the 2016 election and now seems to have expanded into a broader look at the company’s finances.

The Times report raises new questions about Trump’s tax practices.

It notes that Trump appeared to pay his own family members as “consultants” on big deals and then deduct those consulting fees as business expenses on his taxes. The Times said the IRS has sometimes sought civil penalties from companies that use bogus consulting arrangements to avoid paying taxes. But the Times said it has seen no indication that the IRS has questioned Trump’s use of this practice.

2. How much worse are the Trump Organization’s finances now, because of the pandemic?

Earlier this year, the pandemic and related shutdown measures caused 17 of Trump’s golf resorts and hotels to shut down temporarily and triggered layoffs of more than 1,500 employees. Trump’s hotel in Vancouver, B.C. — the newest addition to the president’s small hotel chain — remains shuttered. The company that owns the hotel building declared bankruptcy in late August, blaming the pandemic.


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topcat

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Anyone giving odds on Trump pre-pardoning his entire family in December?
For what? Crimes?
You all act like it’s just the right wing of politics that are super corrupt because I’ll tell you what. it’s both sides and it’s much worse than you would ever believe. And the fact that we fight among one another about what side is worse keeps us blinded to how bad both sides are. I don’t trust any politicians they will say anything to gain power and keep it.
No. It's y'all. Say it. Again. Y'all. There ya' go.
 

Rob Roy

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Pal
I have been a REPUBLICAN OVER 50 YEARS
The direction the GOP has gone is anti-American
Don't tell me both sides are the same
They are not
Fuck the right let the GOP die
"Both sides" (false dichotomy alert) are the same in the sense that their primary means is violence or threats of violence for people who don't comply with their edicts.

You are caught in a maze and will never find the cheese, little mouse.
 

Herb & Suds

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"Both sides" (false dichotomy alert) are the same in the sense that their primary means is violence or threats of violence for people who don't comply with their edicts.

You are caught in a maze and will never find the cheese, little mouse.
I digress FUCK THE RIGHT!
 
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