Trump's coronavirus outcome predictions

DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe COVID won’t get him but this shit stain will be gone soon. A little more than 100 days.
Perhaps sooner if he loses in a landslide and takes the senate with him by a good margin, they can impeach him post election, if Mitch and Nancy agreed, they could remove Donald with in 24 hours. There might be a lot of pissed off senators after the election, Donald did it to them (they did it to themselves). Donald is gonna lose a lot of real power if he loses big, there won't be a blue wave, or a landslide, it will be an earthquake, the fault lines in America have been building a lot of stress these past decades.
 

hanimmal

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If this is a stunt he’s pulling, it’s not going to help him any.

I don't know if I don't think he got sick with the way he is gulping like a fish for breath, but that could just be due to his big ass walking up all those steps and not Covid.

It really doesn't matter, him commanding his doctor to not tell us important details that would help people in those events with him know if they were exposed is bullshit.

the truth will be out next week. some real Dr from W Reed will make a comment about the BS
Or in the inevitable house hearing for all the sick staff.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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the truth will be out next week. some real Dr from W Reed will make a comment about the BS
It will all come out, leaked and then verified, before the election, if it was a stunt it will backfire spectacularly. Talk about hoisted by yer own petard, Donald will be blown into atoms and ejected into space by a nuclear weapon.
 

blu3bird

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what's your route like? aren't you in MI if i remember? do you ever go out of state?
I goes all over the Mitten from White Pigeon, MI (3 miles north of Indiana) to Alpena, MI and from Detroit to Benton Harbor and everywhere in between.

I go to northern Indiana, South Bend, Elkhart, Ft. Wayne and all kinds of little rural hick towns. I occasionally get into eastern Ohio area like Bryan and Holiday. I've been to Joliet Illinois a couple times.

I don't have a set route, everyday is an adventure lol I usually go home every night but once in awhile I'll stay out for a night or two

Actually today I did a pickup in Kalamazoo, MI and delivered that up to Alpena, MI reloaded and I'm taking it down to Columbus, OH tomorrow morning. I'm at a Loves truck stop in Frankenmuth, MI staying the night in my truck, going to roll out to Columbus early around 5am. I have a pickup in Columbus to bring back to Michigan tomorrow

After that, who knows where I'll go lol

 

captainmorgan

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He could barely breath as he crawled back into the Whitehouse,

Give it a week the kids will be arguing over who gets to pull the plug.


If he had a asymptomatic or mild case and they gave him that steroid, he might be dead in a week, that's why no real doctor would give it to him.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They claim to have given him a drug that is not even authorized for emergency use. The steroid they claim to have given him is only used in serious to critical patients. That steroid is also never given early in the infection because it can make things worse, it's used later in the infection. They didn't let any WR doctors talk because they would never use these drugs in this way.
Donald is special and can get anything he wants, he is the boss of the guy who does the approving and he has him under this thumb. The experts are betting heavily and the data appears to indicate this is an effective therapeutic, very effective if given early enough. It is in the process of clinical trials and at least a couple of hundred people have been given it as part of a double blind study. Monoclonal antibody technology is very well developed and has a good track record against other diseases.

The truth will come out, before the election too, but I see no advantage to Donald in getting sick and it becoming known he needed extraordinary measures to save his life. As I said the polls will tell us if it was a win or a loss for him in a few days, that's all that counts. If he is faking it though, he did a pretty good job of scaring the living shit out of over 200 high roller republican donors, minimum was 250K to get in the door, covid was free.
 

captainmorgan

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Well I hope he was asymptomatic or had a mild case and they gave him that steroid because it will probably kill him if they did.
 

hanimmal

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Maybe that is why he went back to the WH, the doctors were keeping him alive at Walter Reed and he is starting to realize he is not looking good to beat Biden so that he does not end up with 12 jurors deciding his fate.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe that is why he went back to the WH, the doctors were keeping him alive at Walter Reed and he is starting to realize he is not looking good to beat Biden so that he does not end up with 12 jurors deciding his fate.

There are simpler ways, put it in writing and write a pardon, any number of his secret service would be willing to oblige. Donald is trying to kill them and their families daily, so they should return the favor, as long as there are witnesses and a pardon signed to make it legal... :D
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Maybe that is why he went back to the WH, the doctors were keeping him alive at Walter Reed and he is starting to realize he is not looking good to beat Biden so that he does not end up with 12 jurors deciding his fate.

Think about it, Donald could make a fortune, if he offered a pardon and the chance to shoot him in the head, made it a lottery and sold tickets! It would be the only profitable business he ever had, a hundred bucks a ticket, in Donald's case suicide could be made profitable, with a little help.
 

hanimmal

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Think about it, Donald could make a fortune, if he offered a pardon and the chance to shoot him in the head, made it a lottery and sold tickets! It would be the only profitable business he ever had, a hundred bucks a ticket, in Donald's case suicide could be made profitable, with a little help.


I don't think it works that way. Trump needs to get voted out by the people of our nation to show the world we are back up after the sucker punch dealt by Russia in the 2016 election. And are tough enough to endure the last 4 years of their attack as one nation.
 

Hash Hound

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Shame on some of your posts, two pages was enough for me. Wishing death and pain on a fellow human being. Especially if you consider yourself a Christian.

James 4:11 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
 

hanimmal

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Shame on some of your posts, two pages was enough for me. Wishing death and pain on a fellow human being. Especially if you consider yourself a Christian.

James 4:11 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
You really don't understand the online attack on our democracy huh?
 

hanimmal

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I was commenting on the judging and hatred of an individual not ones political beliefs.
Half the country hates the guy and the other half love him. How many of the haters claim to be Christian?
I don't think you understand what I mean by the attack on our nation. There is a lot of great info on this site. I highly recommend looking into the previous link and this one on bot's, data analysis attack, and trolls (posts throughout the thread).

How do you know that the comments you find out of line are not being made by paid trolls to get you to think that 'people' are making the hatful statements? If there are posts you find out of line, you should ignore the 'person' that made them and you won't have to worry about it.
 

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-technology-data-privacy-statutes-9e1eeac64e7f8d86b861d32d8e9e3a72Screen Shot 2020-10-05 at 9.18.59 PM.png

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s doctor leaned on a federal health privacy law Monday to duck certain questions about the president’s treatment for COVID-19, while readily sharing other details of his patient’s condition.

But a leading expert on the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act said a more likely reason for Dr. Sean Conley’s selective disclosures appears to be Trump’s comfort level in fully revealing his medical information.

“That’s a little head-scratcher,” said Deven McGraw, a former career government lawyer who oversaw enforcement of the 1996 medical privacy statute. “It’s quite possible the doctor sat down with the president and asked which information is OK to disclose.”

At a press briefing at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, Conley, the White House physician, reported the president’s blood pressure — a little high at 134/78 — and respiration and heart rates, which were both in the normal ranges.

But when reporters pressed for details on the results of lung scans and when Trump had last tested negative for COVID-19, the doctor demurred, citing HIPAA, as the law is commonly known.

“There is no special protection for lung scans,” McGraw pointed out.

“It really is what the president authorizes to be disclosed,” she explained. “So I am going to have to assume there was a judgment call on what information the president was comfortable releasing to the public.”

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The selective disclosure raised more questions about what the president’s doctors aren’t telling the public. Trump returned to the White House later Monday.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said it’s “disconcerting” that information coming from Trump’s physicians “must be approved by the president.”

Pronounced “hippah,” the law essentially prohibits disclosure of a person’s medical information without their consent. Many people hear about HIPAA when they call the hospital seeking information about the condition of a relative and they’re told they can’t have it because of the law.

“HIPAA kinda precludes me from going into too much depth in things that, you know, I’m not (at) liberty or he doesn’t wish to be discussed,” said Conley, who holds the rank of Navy commander.

McGraw said there’s a question about whether the White House physician may even be covered by HIPAA. The law is written to apply to doctors and entities that bill for insurance coverage.

That said, a president, like any other individual, has the right to control personal medical information, said Iliana Peters, who also served as a career lawyer overseeing HIPAA enforcement at the Department of Health and Human Services.

“As the person who is the subject of the records, (Trump) owns the right to privacy over his medical record and he gets to decide how that information is shared certainly with the public, and certainly with the media,” said Peters. “That is the case with any one of us as a patient.”

Peters said “there may be multiple things going on here in that certain disclosures have been authorized and others haven’t.”

Speaking on MSNBC, Pelosi argued that a president has an obligation to be fully transparent about health care concerns. Selective disclosure is “not what the public is owed about the state of health of the president of the United States.”

The role of White House physician involves a unique balancing act, said Dr. Susan Bailey, president of the American Medical Association, calling it a “delicate dual obligation.”

A president’s doctors “bear responsibility not only to the president, but also to a public counting on neutral, objective information,” Bailey said in a statement.

“The patient-physician relationship is paramount in medicine, including the right to privacy and confidentiality that allows for open communication between the patient and physician, which all patients are entitled to,” she added. “At the same time, it is important for our presidents to provide open and transparent information about their health.”

Privacy lawyer McGraw is now chief regulatory officer with Ciitizen, a health technology company she cofounded that helps people collect and organize their medical records to help them get the best treatment.

Peters is a health privacy and data security expert with Polsinelli, a national law firm serving a range of business clients.
 

Hash Hound

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I don't care who posted them. It's not very Christian like, or humanity like to wish evil on another.
Political trolls in a weed forum?
 

hanimmal

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I don't care who posted them. It's not very Christian like, or humanity like to wish evil on another.
Political trolls in a weed forum?
Paid trolls are on every forum, kids video games, comment sections on everything. Any thing free to sign up is inescapable. The Russian military is pushing hard to try to get our society to not be able to talk about anything, so if you find things offensive online, I highly recommend ignoring the people making those statements and not falling into the trap of letting the hate that is endless to trick you into thinking people are actually talking like that (unless they are brianwashed by the trolling to think it is ok).

Do yourself and your family a favor and look into it enough to realize what is going on. Every topic on every side is being trolled.
 
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