buying "certified" seeds for legal CBD cultivation

[NewEnglandFarmer]

I'm researching the legal requirements in Maine for growing hemp for CBD commercially.

It sounds like they want to see some sort of paper documentation that the seeds are certified to be under the legal THC limit of 0.3%.

So does that mean I can't use my Cherry Wine seeds from Greenpoint? I don't see anything on their website that says anything about THC percentage or testing.

Thoughts?

Here's the actual language from the Maine state website:

Maine law requires that hemp be planted using a certified seed source which is defined as a source of hemp seeds that are certified by a third party as producing hemp having a delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol concentration of not more than 0.3% on a dry weight basis. Certification may include a certificate of analysis from a third-party ISO 17025 accredited laboratory that indicates the parent plant seed source tested at or below 0.3% delta-9-tetrahdrocannabinol on a dry weight basis. To comply with the certified seed source requirement when you purchase seed, seedlings or clones, you must retain documentation that could include a letter, form, or other written verification or combination of documents that at a minimum includes:

• Third party (someone other than the applicant and the grower of the seed) THC content testing results for the hemp. The third party should be identified on the testing results;
• THC content test results must be for the variety or varieties included on the application and preferably for the specific lot of seed to be planted;
• Results of THC content testing and the date tests were conducted;
• The name of the seed supplier and origin of the seed.

 

[solakani]

I'm researching the legal requirements in Maine for growing hemp for CBD commercially.

It sounds like they want to see some sort of paper documentation that the seeds are certified to be under the legal THC limit of 0.3%.

So does that mean I can't use my Cherry Wine seeds from Greenpoint? I don't see anything on their website that says anything about THC percentage or testing.

Thoughts?

Here's the actual language from the Maine state website:

If my Greenpoint hemp seeds did not come with the necessary certification then I would not use them in a commercial grow. Rather buy bona fide seedlings and clones from a licensed supplier.

 

[thumper60]

I'm researching the legal requirements in Maine for growing hemp for CBD commercially.

It sounds like they want to see some sort of paper documentation that the seeds are certified to be under the legal THC limit of 0.3%.

So does that mean I can't use my Cherry Wine seeds from Greenpoint? I don't see anything on their website that says anything about THC percentage or testing.

Thoughts?

Here's the actual language from the Maine state website:

Find a local hemp farm theres plenty around talk with them.

 

[NewEnglandFarmer]

If my Greenpoint hemp seeds did not come with the necessary certification then I would not use them in a commercial grow. Rather buy bona fide seedlings and clones from a licensed supplier.

Thanks. I got in touch with them and turns out they have a "sister" site that sells hemp with COA. Only feminized though. A little hesitant--one of my Cherry Wines went hermie at week 8 and I've seen a few instances online of this happening. My understanding is that feminized seeds are even more prone to hermie. I get that this is often induced by stress rather than genetics, but still...rather plant extra and cull the males if the plants are more stable.

 

[NewEnglandFarmer]

Find a local hemp farm theres plenty around talk with them.

Thanks, will do. I just read a piece in the Portland Press Herald about how folks who jumped into commercial hemp here early on to try and beat the big conglomerates absolutely lost their shirts. One guy in Turner ended up $900,000 in the hole (I actually bought my composted cow manure from this fellow last spring, feel bad, he's 77 and that's not what you need at that stage of life!).

Sounds like the only way to make a go of it here is small-scale and selling CBD products direct-to-consumer--which was what I had in mind anyway. Still researching.

You do any CBD Thump?

 

[thumper60]

Thanks, will do. I just read a piece in the Portland Press Herald about how folks who jumped into commercial hemp here early on to try and beat the big conglomerates absolutely lost their shirts. One guy in Turner ended up $900,000 in the hole (I actually bought my composted cow manure from this fellow last spring, feel bad, he's 77 and that's not what you need at that stage of life!).

Sounds like the only way to make a go of it here is small-scale and selling CBD products direct-to-consumer--which was what I had in mind anyway. Still researching.

You do any CBD Thump?

No CBD here just THC flowers, ya some folks lost their shirt,I saw a add couple months ago farmer was selling 25 dollars a pound PYO no money there. Check out North Alantic seed CO here in maine i think they may have CBD seeds with paperwork

 

[NewEnglandFarmer]

I'll check out North Atlantic, thanks.

Just curious, you ever try it and does it do anything for you?

Still doing research but thinking it would be very small-scale, making and selling tinctures and infused oils, market on the "handcrafted/highquality/organic/local" aspect. I see a few people doing that here already. Just be a small side-gig, supplemental income and all that.

You know how it is, trying to piece together a living in rural Maine...

 

[waterproof808]

The hemp seed industry sounds shady AF, tons of farmers getting burned on high thc varieties that fail testing. Most legit seed companies will require you to license the genetics and you are not able to breed or clone or reproduce them in any way, you must buy new seeds every year. I probably would just pheno hunt something nice from the cherry wine, have it tested and then clone everything in house.

 

[thumper60]

I'll check out North Atlantic, thanks.

Just curious, you ever try it and does it do anything for you?

Still doing research but thinking it would be very small-scale, making and selling tinctures and infused oils, market on the "handcrafted/highquality/organic/local" aspect. I see a few people doing that here already. Just be a small side-gig, supplemental income and all that.

[You know how it is, trying to piece together a living in rural Maine...]

Yes i know all about making a living in rural maine Fiddle heads an Mushrooms are a paying hobbie for me.CBDs are everywhere now everyone sells them now most of it is garbage.

 

[NewEnglandFarmer]

The hemp seed industry sounds shady AF, tons of farmers getting burned on high thc varieties that fail testing. Most legit seed companies will require you to license the genetics and you are not able to breed or clone or reproduce them in any way, you must buy new seeds every year. I probably would just pheno hunt something nice from the cherry wine, have it tested and then clone everything in house.

That's an interesting idea, hadn't thought of that, thanks.

 

[NewEnglandFarmer]

CBDs are everywhere now everyone sells them now most of it is garbage.

I'm definitely getting that impression. Which makes me wonder if there's an opportunity to connect with consumers tired of the trash and looking for a reliable source of quality product.

 

[thumper60]

I'm definitely getting that impression. Which makes me wonder if there's an opportunity to connect with consumers tired of the trash and looking for a reliable source of quality product.

The sheeple flock to the cheap stuff, Its very hard to connect to smart people takes yrs.

 

[Apalchen]

More regulation for hemp farming than weed farming in states that have rec or med grows it seems

 

[thumper60]

More regulation for hemp farming than weed farming in states that have rec or med grows it seems

Local fees thats what legal is all about!

 

[GrOwThMoNgeR]

Not easy to get rid of your harvest. Even here one farmer is still sitting on 12 tons of biomass. The key is get a medical license so you can sell to pharma. It's a risky business. It's 50k to process one ton of biomass into oil. We have a marketing plan that coincides with a book release that immediately connects us to customers.

 

[GrOwThMoNgeR]

I have seen good results from Trilogene and Oregon CBD. There are a couple seed producers out of CO but they seemed more shady.

 

[CBDbear]

I'm running a small CBD operation here in italy since end 2018 and a lot of farmers did jump over the cbd train since then. In 2019 around 800 hectars where dedicated to CBD or seeds or biomass all over italy more or less the same surface had been dedicated to cannabis in 2020 only in a region of italy... so prices did pummel hard but the quality did too!!

those farmers are probably crying now since their product is so lame and in such quantity that the barely can sell it if not for extraction or such. small players like me who did some pheno hunting and reserach but are not cultivating over industrial scale are having an hard time to place the outdoor product even with a good terpene profile and decent CBD content aroun 10% a good curing and no chemicals sprayed.

the indoor sells good but it get to the final customer almost to price of the illegal THC flowers no rules aply over here adulterated CBD flower are sold or the cdb content advised is completely fake this madness can happen becouse the product itsels named flower is not in the law which regulates the italian cbd market but the word flower is in a 30 years old law... an antinarcotic law, the flowers sold can't really be smoked or used by human so sellers really do some dirty cheap triks and have no liability of any sort to the customer this hurt people who did research and love quality and the plant itself.
recently a strain called recovery cbd got my attention, the 2019 production was mh-1

 

[GrOwThMoNgeR]

I'm running a small CBD operation here in italy since end 2018 and a lot of farmers did jump over the cbd train since then. In 2019 around 800 hectars where dedicated to CBD or seeds or biomass all over italy more or less the same surface had been dedicated to cannabis in 2020 only in a region of italy... so prices did pummel hard but the quality did too!!

those farmers are probably crying now since their product is so lame and in such quantity that the barely can sell it if not for extraction or such. small players like me who did some pheno hunting and reserach but are not cultivating over industrial scale are having an hard time to place the outdoor product even with a good terpene profile and decent CBD content aroun 10% a good curing and no chemicals sprayed.

the indoor sells good but it get to the final customer almost to price of the illegal THC flowers no rules aply over here adulterated CBD flower are sold or the cdb content advised is completely fake this madness can happen becouse the product itsels named flower is not in the law which regulates the italian cbd market but the word flower is in a 30 years old law... an antinarcotic law, the flowers sold can't really be smoked or used by human so sellers really do some dirty cheap triks and have no liability of any sort to the customer this hurt people who did research and love quality and the plant itself.
recently a strain called recovery cbd got my attention, the 2019 production was mh-1

Could you direct me to EU certified seed?

 

[CBDbear]

https://ec.europa.eu/food/plant/plant_propagation_material/plant_variety_catalogues_databases/search/public/index.cfm?event=SearchVariety&ctl_type=A&species_id=240&variety_name=&listed_in=0&show_current=on&show_deleted= something like this? or a site whom I trust? those in the link are the only lawful cultivar usable in europe, the CBD fem seeds for sale are fine but not exatly cheap or 100% under 0.5thc or expressly autorized.
this might change a little from country to country and I know in detail only how the rules are over here where I live

 

[Kassiopeija]

https://www.liquidmellow.com/

has some nice CBD CBG strains