CSI humboldt thread

[Bakersfield]

I've ran a bunch of seeds in my persuit of Unobtainium and I don't typically have a problem with intersex traits beyond the occasional lower nanner or late flower nanner.

I run so many seeds that taking cuttings of every seed sprouted would consume space and time beyond my resources.

I sprout, short veg and flower.
If a plant appears to be worth keeping, I will reveg and reavaluate.

I will take cuttings from plants of rare seed packs before flowering if I must have 100% success in preserving the genetics, because my reveg game is never 100%.

When I do encounter the rare full fledged herm plant from seed it gets tossed without a second thought.
Seriously, full herms are rare to find running seed in my garden.

To boot
IME, seed plants will outperform clones of the same plant in vigor and yield.
It's as if the seed plant are on steroids compared to its clone.
I don't know the reason behind this, but seeded plants seem to have larger root balls compared to my clone runs.
Perhaps, in other gardens the same hormones found in seeded plants, that create such massive vigor can become problematic and cause intersex?

 

[Mrsmokestacks]

I've ran a bunch of seeds in my persuit of Unobtainium and I don't typically have a problem with intersex traits beyond the occasional lower nanner or late flower nanner.

I run so many seeds that taking cuttings of every seed sprouted would consume space and time beyond my resources.

I sprout, short veg and flower.
If a plant appears to be worth keeping, I will reveg and reavaluate.

I will take cuttings from plants of rare seed packs before flowering if I must have 100% success in preserving the genetics, because my reveg game is never 100%.

When I do encounter the rare full fledged herm plant from seed it gets tossed without a second thought.
Seriously, full herms are rare to find running seed in my garden.

To boot
IME, seed plants will outperform clones of the same plant in vigor and yield.
It's as if the seed plant are on steroids compared to its clone.
I don't know the reason behind this, but seeded plants seem to have larger root balls compared to my clone runs.
Perhaps, in other gardens the same hormones found in seeded plants, that create such massive vigor can become problematic and cause intersex?

Completely agree. I think it's the taproot. I definitely wonder sometimes why a plant can grow out of intersex traits as it matures in age. I'm sure it is an evolved survival mechanism. So interesting these plants are!

 

[YardG]

I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying. Seed plants are more likely to show sexual instability than more sexually mature clones from that same plant. If the seed was a true hermaphrodite and not just a sexually maturing female then the clones will also be hermaphrodites. If the seed plant has very few male parts but is primarily female it will likely not express that instability in it's newest growth or the clones taken after it is mature. That doesn't mean you can't identity a true Herm before taking clones and a clone of a Herm will be a Herm. A few balls or dicks on a seed plant doesn't mean it won't sexually stabilize in newer growth (or clones). I just don't have time to grow a seed to maturity just to kill it and take clones to then root and veg. I do a good job on my seeds, look for excessive intersex/Herm traits, cull anything that isn't salvageable or that likely won't mature out of those traits, and strip the keepers to the top 18-24" of the plant to further reduce the likelihood of unseen male parts. Sometimes clones do have a different effect/taste/etc than the seed they came from, but two clones grown in the same way on different runs can also show a bit of variance due to any factors than aren't perfectly replicated (environment, feed, pathogen, etc). If you do a good job on the seeds you can mitigate the difference between them and the next generation of clones off of them though. I feel like a lot of (not all) the variance between a seed and it's clones can be chalked up to the health and sexual maturity of the specific specimen. Either way I would waste a ton of time if I grew seeds out just to clone them. My seeds make great flower IMO and IME so I don't bother.

I was just curious if I was understanding correctly, to each their own but I don't have the time or space to keep plants with hermaphroditic traits in my garden, if it shows herm traits it gets tossed (obviously I understand there are some strains that have a tendency throw non-potent male flowers late in flowering, I'd probably make an exception for very minor herming but in general those traits are something I'd rather just avoid altogether).

 

[Panaelous]

I was male and herm searching my garden this morning and I came across a male
Chem D Fallen Soldier.

Notice the pistil coming out the end of the ball n the last photo
I've never seen such a thing.

I'm going to keep him around for a bit longer and see what will happenView attachment 4845966View attachment 4845968View attachment 4845969View attachment 4845970

That’s a true male hermaphrodite

 

[Panaelous]

Woah Bakersfield funny you mention that, I was checking my PTK dude the other day and saw pistils popping out of a few pollen sacs. Searched around online shortly for info on it and nothing really, so I will grow it out and see what it does. I'm wondering if in my case this is a preservation tactic due to it being flowered outside after the winter solstice and the days are getting longer or if it's just some mutant.
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That’s a true male hermaphordite

 

[bongrip101]

Gorilla Glue fam is blasting CSI today for making S1s...always something I guess.

 

[bodhipop]

Gorilla Glue fam is blasting CSI today for making S1s...always something I guess.

I guess I can understand if he's charging usual prices. For preservation sake I'm all for it and wow would that be a fun run looking through.

 

[YerpGodMarley]

So if I wanna try some csi for the first time as well as some lemon. Should I go for lemon tree x lemon party

 

[bongrip101]

I guess I can understand if he's charging usual prices. For preservation sake I'm all for it and wow would that be a fun run looking through.

I grabbed a pack during CSI's christmas sale , and I'll for sure run it. Timing is odd cause that has been out almost as long as the GG4 x T1000 collab between them.

 

[Bakersfield]

Gorilla Glue fam is blasting CSI today for making S1s...always something I guess.

I hadn't heard, but I would assume that after JW passed, you wouldn't need to get permission.

I guess strains now are viewed as family legacies.

 

[slacker140]

So if I wanna try some csi for the first time as well as some lemon. Should I go for lemon tree x lemon party

Check out this.

CSI humboldt thread

Why not both? Picked up some Ghost OG x GSC and Underdog Urkle (Loompas HB x Purple Urkle. Picked up that urkle cross cause of Dr Panda’s photos here in the thread. Also got a PCK x Bubba Kush freebie too, all from GLO. My run of ChemD x GSC made me a believer in nspecta/CSI. I still have a pack...

www.rollitup.org

 

[Bakersfield]

That’s a true male hermaphrodite

I would say it was 7/8 male, which is weird for a fem.
Who knows what's swept up from the floor?

 

[JewelRunner]

So if I wanna try some csi for the first time as well as some lemon. Should I go for lemon tree x lemon party

You’re probably better off with an out cross like his lemon tree x tk(or triangle x lemon party) sherb x lemon party, lemon tree x zkittlez, or chem d x lemon party. The lemon terps are strong with the lemon tree, better off getting an out cross since the lemon party is likely an s1 of lemon tree already. I do have a pack of lemonade x lemon party and lemon party s1, but I have like 4 packs of outcrosses too. If you’re only getting one I’d go triangle x lemon party or lemon tree(which is lemon party) x triangle. Less herm prone more vigor and kush + lemonade is a dream pairing.

 

[Bakersfield]

Anyone know what the headband in the headband x chem d cross is? Loompas or something else?

This post has been on my mind for months now, lol.

I was listening to episode 3 of the
Breeders Syndicate this afternoon. Notsodog and
Matt Riot were talking about breeders and CSI came up.
Notsodog said that Caleb has both of Notsodogs Headbands, the L.A. Headband and the "other' Headband.
The L.A. Headband is more Diesel like while the other he says is more Kush like.

CSI has apparently used both Headbands in crosses that are currently available.
I just wish he would state which one is which.

 

[bongrip101]

I hadn't heard, but I would assume that after JW passed, you wouldn't need to get permission.

I guess strains now are viewed as family legacies.

I dont know the whole GG4 story but if I were gonna have someone make S1s of a strain...CSI is the guy.

 

[Gemtree]

This post has been on my mind for months now, lol.

I was listening to episode 3 of the
Breeders Syndicate this afternoon. Notsodog and
Matt Riot were talking about breeders and CSI came up.
Notsodog said that Caleb has both of Notsodogs Headbands, the L.A. Headband and the "other' Headband.
The L.A. Headband is more Diesel like while the other he says is more Kush like.

CSI has apparently used both Headbands in crosses that are currently available.
I just wish he would state which one is which.

I actually got a pack and been thinking about it too lol. Maybe I should email him

 

[LunarMOG]

This post has been on my mind for months now, lol.

I was listening to episode 3 of the
Breeders Syndicate this afternoon. Notsodog and
Matt Riot were talking about breeders and CSI came up.
Notsodog said that Caleb has both of Notsodogs Headbands, the L.A. Headband and the "other' Headband.
The L.A. Headband is more Diesel like while the other he says is more Kush like.

CSI has apparently used both Headbands in crosses that are currently available.
I just wish he would state which one is which.

i was actually thinking about this earlier because i purchased a headband cross a while back assuming it was the headband i knew which is the diesel related one, best outdoor i ever smoked. Turns out the cross i have is NOT the diesel headband, but the og headband, i think it is aka loompas headband aka headband og or underdog og (i believe csi labels it as underdog og in his crosses). Perhaps he differentiates between the two this way? Id like to know because i love the diesel headband and have been chasing her a while now.

 

[dr.panda]

i was actually thinking about this earlier because i purchased a headband cross a while back assuming it was the headband i knew which is the diesel related one, best outdoor i ever smoked. Turns out the cross i have is NOT the diesel headband, but the og headband, i think it is aka loompas headband aka headband og or underdog og (i believe csi labels it as underdog og in his crosses). Perhaps he differentiates between the two this way? Id like to know because i love the diesel headband and have been chasing her a while now.

Loompa was the one that changes the name so many times, Headband OG, UnderDog, Loompas headband are the same cuts. Its not a headband at all but mostly an OG. I believe you want the one labeled just headband. That should either be Notso dogs LAkush/headband cut which is the more diesel type or the 56 day cut. I have a pack that he personally wrote one that says LA kush/headband x tk on the baggie but the package says headband x tk

 

[Bubbles Depot]

I dont know the whole GG4 story but if I were gonna have someone make S1s of a strain...CSI is the guy.

The clone has been passed out freely, but asked that S1s not be sold without consent.
GGstrains sells "official" s1s and that money helps support JWs family with all the legal bills they have been left with after he got sued by Gorilla Glue.
CSI makes great seeds, and does a lot of good work, but this is a major lapse in judgement imo.

 

[bongrip101]

The clone has been passed out freely, but asked that S1s not be sold without consent.
GGstrains sells "official" s1s and that money helps support JWs family with all the legal bills they have been left with after he got sued by Gorilla Glue.
CSI makes great seeds, and does a lot of good work, but this is a major lapse in judgement imo.

We have no idea if his blessing was given or not. You can definitely have an issue with speakeasy's advertisement not giving credit to ggstrains though.