Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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MICHI-CAN

Well-Known Member
I'm not kidding. If they charged you they're breaking the law. The entire thing was covered by Medicare. What they're doing is charging you, then billing Medicare on top of it to double down on their money.

It's flat-out fraud.
I agree. And will share with the people who paid I know. See if there is a tip section. As I did not pay.

We want shots. Sadly only J&J. Vaccine side effect recipient and know a few others. Not sold on safety but I know how safe Covid is.

TY and peace. Need to find a happier thread. Thank you all for allowing venting. Better.
 

printer

Well-Known Member
Scientists are working on vaccines that spread like a disease. What could possibly go wrong?
Once a COVID-19 vaccine is approved for public use, officials around the world will face the monumental challenge of vaccinating billions of people, a logistical operation rife with thorny ethical questions. What if instead of orchestrating complicated and resource-intensive campaigns to vaccinate humans against emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, we could instead stop the zoonotic diseases that sometimes leap from animals to people at their source? A small, but growing number of scientists think it’s possible to exploit the self-propagating properties of viruses and use them to spread immunity instead of disease. Can we beat viruses like SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus, at their own game?

Self-spreading vaccines could indeed entail serious risks, and the prospect of using them raises challenging questions.

Who decides, for instance, where and when a vaccine should be released? Once released, scientists will no longer be in control of the virus. It could mutate, as viruses naturally do. It may jump species. It will cross borders. There will be unexpected outcomes and unintended consequences. There always are.

While it may turn out to be technically feasible to fight emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, AIDS, Ebola, and Zika with self-spreading viruses, and while the benefits may be significant, how does one weigh those benefits against what may be even greater risks?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I'm not kidding. If they charged you they're breaking the law. The entire thing was covered by Medicare. What they're doing is charging you, then billing Medicare on top of it to double down on their money.

It's flat-out fraud.
They do bill people's insurance companies for the materials used to administer the vaccine. If you aren't covered by Medicare or Medicaid, they ask for your insurance card and bill your insurance for the materials used, not the vaccine. That is how it was done when I got mine. IDK what they do if you aren't insured.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
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Scientists are working on vaccines that spread like a disease. What could possibly go wrong?
Once a COVID-19 vaccine is approved for public use, officials around the world will face the monumental challenge of vaccinating billions of people, a logistical operation rife with thorny ethical questions.
What if instead of orchestrating complicated and resource-intensive campaigns to vaccinate humans against emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, we could instead stop the zoonotic diseases that sometimes leap from animals to people at their source? A small, but growing number of scientists think it’s possible to exploit the self-propagating properties of viruses and use them to spread immunity instead of disease. Can we beat viruses like SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus, at their own game?

Self-spreading vaccines could indeed entail serious risks, and the prospect of using them raises challenging questions.

Who decides, for instance, where and when a vaccine should be released? Once released, scientists will no longer be in control of the virus. It could mutate, as viruses naturally do. It may jump species. It will cross borders. There will be unexpected outcomes and unintended consequences. There always are.

While it may turn out to be technically feasible to fight emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, AIDS, Ebola, and Zika with self-spreading viruses, and while the benefits may be significant, how does one weigh those benefits against what may be even greater risks?

 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Scientists are working on vaccines that spread like a disease. What could possibly go wrong?
Once a COVID-19 vaccine is approved for public use, officials around the world will face the monumental challenge of vaccinating billions of people, a logistical operation rife with thorny ethical questions. What if instead of orchestrating complicated and resource-intensive campaigns to vaccinate humans against emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, we could instead stop the zoonotic diseases that sometimes leap from animals to people at their source? A small, but growing number of scientists think it’s possible to exploit the self-propagating properties of viruses and use them to spread immunity instead of disease. Can we beat viruses like SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus, at their own game?

Self-spreading vaccines could indeed entail serious risks, and the prospect of using them raises challenging questions.

Who decides, for instance, where and when a vaccine should be released? Once released, scientists will no longer be in control of the virus. It could mutate, as viruses naturally do. It may jump species. It will cross borders. There will be unexpected outcomes and unintended consequences. There always are.

While it may turn out to be technically feasible to fight emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, AIDS, Ebola, and Zika with self-spreading viruses, and while the benefits may be significant, how does one weigh those benefits against what may be even greater risks?
hmm, yes, what could possibly go wrong?

Polychorinated Bi-phenyl compounds were once thought to be safe too. Monsanto was planning to roll them out for a very wide range of uses:

PCBs were designed to be used in electrical insulation; flameproofers; paints; varnishes; adhesives; lacquers; transparent and moisture proof paper; heat transfer; impregnation; delustering rayon; plasticizers; fireproofing cloth; ink; lubrication; temperature control equipment; and chewing gum

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41271-018-0146-8
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
hmm, yes, what could possibly go wrong?

Polychorinated Bi-phenyl compounds were once thought to be safe too. Monsanto was planning to roll them out for a very wide range of uses:

PCBs were designed to be used in electrical insulation; flameproofers; paints; varnishes; adhesives; lacquers; transparent and moisture proof paper; heat transfer; impregnation; delustering rayon; plasticizers; fireproofing cloth; ink; lubrication; temperature control equipment; and chewing gum

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41271-018-0146-8
Who says American, Canadian or European scientists will unleash this wonder on the world? Soon many countries will have the technological means to do this and after that, small organizations and even individuals. The world will not be destroyed by nuclear weapons, self replicating Nano machines (viruses) are another matter all together. Technology empowers the individual and some individuals are mad.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
They do bill people's insurance companies for the materials used to administer the vaccine. If you aren't covered by Medicare or Medicaid, they ask for your insurance card and bill your insurance for the materials used, not the vaccine. That is how it was done when I got mine. IDK what they do if you aren't insured.
How much does the COVID-19 vaccine cost?

COVID-19 vaccine is free of charge for everyone. Participating pharmacies will bill private and public insurance for the vaccine administration fee. For uninsured patients, this fee will be reimbursed through the Health Resources and Services Administration's Provider Relief Fund.Apr 12, 2021

COVID-19 Vaccination Federal Retail Pharmacy Partnership Program FAQs
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
How much does the COVID-19 vaccine cost?

COVID-19 vaccine is free of charge for everyone. Participating pharmacies will bill private and public insurance for the vaccine administration fee. For uninsured patients, this fee will be reimbursed through the Health Resources and Services Administration's Provider Relief Fund.Apr 12, 2021
COVID-19 Vaccination Federal Retail Pharmacy Partnership Program FAQs
The vaccine was paid for by the govt. The materials used to give the injection were billed to my insurance. I don't know what the costs were. Nothing out of my pocket.
 

BurtMaklin

Well-Known Member
Got my shot yesterday. Gonna need it too, shit is out of control here and the construction idiots on jobs sites I visit seem to believe they won't get it because they "work construction". Full on retards!!!!!

Other than a little tenderness around the needle puncture, a slight headache and being a little stiff, no big deal at all.

I got the AstraZenica shot too, so you know I'm gonna die of a blood clot. Lol.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Got my shot yesterday. Gonna need it too, shit is out of control here and the construction idiots on jobs sites I visit seem to believe they won't get it because they "work construction". Full on retards!!!!!

Other than a little tenderness around the needle puncture, a slight headache and being a little stiff, no big deal at all.

I got the AstraZenica shot too, so you know I'm gonna die of a blood clot. Lol.
An outbreak in the city close to me had 20ish positives from the construction site now it’s grown to 50ish due to family contact. This shit is real, get the fucking shot :(. Maybe someday I’ll be able to fly and see my oldest daughter, it’s going on 2 years :(.
 

BurtMaklin

Well-Known Member
An outbreak in the city close to me had 20ish positives from the construction site now it’s grown to 50ish due to family contact. This shit is real, get the fucking shot :(. Maybe someday I’ll be able to fly and see my oldest daughter, it’s going on 2 years :(.
As a concrete mixer driver at the third largest construction company here we have at least six large projects (two hospital sites and 4 high rises) on the go right now and only one site is taking it seriously. The rest wear no masks and five or six guys stand a foot apart, the curb and sidewalk crews are even worse with like 9 guys in a row that all hop in pickups with no masks. Thankfully it's outside and I'm usually in the cab or perched above them on my pedestal. I have flat out refused to work the chute like I normally do, thankfully it's optional. I have been openly laughed at and called stupid for protecting my family. Unbelievable stupidity!!
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
As a concrete mixer driver at the third largest construction company here we have at least six large projects (two hospital sites and 4 high rises) on the go right now and only one site is taking it seriously. The rest wear no masks and five or six guys stand a foot apart, the curb and sidewalk crews are even worse with like 9 guys in a row that all hop in pickups with no masks. Thankfully it's outside and I'm usually in the cab or perched above them on my pedestal. I have flat out refused to work the chute like I normally do, thankfully it's optional. I have been openly laughed at and called stupid for protecting my family. Unbelievable stupidity!!
Yes stupidity!!! I went into the office last week only to find a few running around without masking up. The one guy I told to put a fucking mask on is now waiting to get tested due to close exposure. People just don’t seem to get it. If he tests positive we will be shutting down and an office wide testing will have to be done :(. I know I’m not stepping foot in that place again “ever” lol. 4 years then they can suck my balls and I’ll pension out. A year ago I loved my job, now I hate it because of all the assholes this virus has exposed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Yes stupidity!!! I went into the office last week only to find a few running around without masking up. The one guy I told to put a fucking mask on is now waiting to get tested due to close exposure. People just don’t seem to get it. If he tests positive we will be shutting down and an office wide testing will have to be done :(. I know I’m not stepping foot in that place again “ever” lol. 4 years then they can suck my balls and I’ll pension out. A year ago I loved my job, now I hate it because of all the assholes this virus has exposed.
The owner is a moron for not enforcing mask rules, shutting down, cleaning and illness all disrupt business and cost money. Perhaps you should just report people to the government directly, pull out your phone and call the cops, don't say a word, let them pay the fine. They don't give a fuck about you, why should you care about them paying a fine? It's not like there isn't a fucking major crises there!

When the cops show up and issue a few fines for a grand or two and another one on the owner, that might make an impression. You're vaccinated and can work from home for now, so I guess keeping yer head down is the smart thing to do. I dunno what it will be like next year when many of the morons who refuse to wear masks will also be running around unvaccinated. The vaccines are coming out of emergency use though and many employers will make them mandatory, so see your boss about making it policy. Tell him it's a great chance to get rid of people with poor judgement and an opportunity to cull the stupid. :lol:
 

BurtMaklin

Well-Known Member
Yes stupidity!!! I went into the office last week only to find a few running around without masking up. The one guy I told to put a fucking mask on is now waiting to get tested due to close exposure. People just don’t seem to get it. If he tests positive we will be shutting down and an office wide testing will have to be done :(. I know I’m not stepping foot in that place again “ever” lol. 4 years then they can suck my balls and I’ll pension out. A year ago I loved my job, now I hate it because of all the assholes this virus has exposed.
I'm not sure where this idea that your family and friends are impervious to covid comes from, but my wife had to rat out our neighbours in our daycare bubble for having a family sleep over with both sets of grandparents, cousins and another neighbor kid.

I've had 4 covid tests in the last month and the first three were uncomfortable as fuck, but the last girl shoved that swab into my brain, did a 5 count then twisted that thing like she was getting the last drop of peanut butter out of the jar. Ouch!!!
 
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