Aheadatime
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If you're referring to hops latent viroid, t's no myth my friend. I've had it, and seen it spread first-hand. Had plants tested.
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Herb & Suds
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We always rely on new member observations
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colocowboy
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Probably the best argument for learning gardening for real. The idea that some thing challenging comes up and folks want to burn their house down, the other surrounding areas, and every known cultivar because the fear of dealing with it is completely absurd.
On one hand growing in an isolated environment gives you a lot of control and the ability to keep things out of your garden, on the other hand some problems when left in the isolated environment can gain a real foothold unchecked. Learning how to deal with pests and problems is how these “super problems” keep from getting out of control in the first place.
Obviously there are situations that the timing requires a hard knee jerk but universe of possibilities aside, learning to address issues in the garden provides a deep satisfaction and confidence. Even the hlv can be cured using metals, there’s really nothing that patience and perseverance can’t overcome.
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On one hand growing in an isolated environment gives you a lot of control and the ability to keep things out of your garden, on the other hand some problems when left in the isolated environment can gain a real foothold unchecked. Learning how to deal with pests and problems is how these “super problems” keep from getting out of control in the first place.
Obviously there are situations that the timing requires a hard knee jerk but universe of possibilities aside, learning to address issues in the garden provides a deep satisfaction and confidence. Even the hlv can be cured using metals, there’s really nothing that patience and perseverance can’t overcome.
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timmah1979
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Ordered peanuts butter breath from Tomi late Thursday and it arrived early Saturday in good shape and well rooted. I’ll chime back in a couple months . But super communicative and would recommend
threekingghidra
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I also ordered peanut butter breath from Tomi. Great communication and the clone came in great shape. Would definitely buy from Tomi again in the future.
CaliWorthington
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My university educated botanist friend works for commercial canna nurseries. He said the newest thing is an electrolysis machine that makes your water super low or super high pH. Rinsing your tools in the 2.0 pH water as you work eliminates the spread of hplvd. I've never heard of curing it with metals, though.
quiescent
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You can theoretically do all of your ipm with high and low ph water. I think you'll see it becoming more prevalent in bigger grows where the product is being tested if put into use as the flower regiment, supported by other stuff in veg.
I've read people say they had experience outgrowing hplvd using hibrix gardening principles as well. No reason to not believe it's possible.
colocowboy
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people talking about HPLVD like its no big deal are obviously not large scale growers .... myth lol there are so many more viruses that are just as bad as Dudding... go listen to hemp people to tell you about all the new great stuff they've seen hop over over from crop rotation species into Hemp....
Trying every hype strain that ends up getting forgotten about a few months later is like sleeping around with Prostitutes... at some point your gonna catch the heeby Jeeebyz for something that wasnt worth it .....
Thats why I asked ole Tomstein about his methodology for bringing in cuts ... I lost interest when he failed to mention anything about dudding... but 95% of the Clone Vendors are clueless to anything not visible to the eye ....
On the flip side... I still tried dusting my plants with Corn Startch (Space Runtz Pollen) via Strainly.... so take my advice with a grain of pollen
Trying every hype strain that ends up getting forgotten about a few months later is like sleeping around with Prostitutes... at some point your gonna catch the heeby Jeeebyz for something that wasnt worth it .....
Thats why I asked ole Tomstein about his methodology for bringing in cuts ... I lost interest when he failed to mention anything about dudding... but 95% of the Clone Vendors are clueless to anything not visible to the eye ....
On the flip side... I still tried dusting my plants with Corn Startch (Space Runtz Pollen) via Strainly.... so take my advice with a grain of pollen
Aheadatime
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LOL
Yeah my take on the viroid is that it's not hard to defeat, it's just costly. You may lose moms that you're not prepared to lose, and you may have to stall a harvest to thoroughly clean everything. That's really it though. Killing infected plants and plants they've come into contact with, bleaching everything down and buying new pots/trimmers, and then having new sanitation protocols in place permanently. Sounds simple enough, because it is, but it can be painful to kill all your girls and start over.
How recent was this? I would expect them to be testing their own work.
Romulanman
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Man when I found this site last year I was SO excite!! It seems like every other day now there is some shady practices or just outright lazy ignorance. I gotta give it to you folks who get burned and keep going back. Idk about you guys but every single one of these clone dealers aren't to be trusted. It isn't like the old days. Everyone needs to make a buck and the easiest way is the most popular. No one knows what anything is these days and they make a living off that.
Muad' Dib
Active Member
Not a myth, just a real thing. Word.
This is a pic of a positive test in Hop Latent Viroid. I needed to test it in different labs because its not easy to find if they dont know exactly what "Primer" its the correct one to run the RT-PCR properly.
Tissue culture is the future. As well many labs are now updating their librarys and offering HpLVd test to the customers.
P.S. Edit. If i were looking for a trusted lab, then i would like to be sure of that on their job experience they really found already some real positive test, if not... Then they are going arrive to "false negative" outcome. It happened to me.
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gosabres716
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Me too and I confronted him about it. He doesnt like bad reviews. https://www.strainly.io/en/dukeyduke33
I also asked about his sensi star clone. Was it a specific cut or phenotyped?
He replied what are the other sensi stars? I should of walked away. but here is a pic of his fake chemd.
I also loved the real chemd and I just hoped it was legit, but I new right away. Plus it freaked out in transport and started flowering. Smelled sweet.
No variegation. I mean how many real deal cuts are floating around without variegation? You think he would do a little research considering
he has the biggest collection on strainly. I dont think he will replace it but who knows.
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Oliver Pantsoff
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The "fuck boy" comments had me rolling over here lol
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gosabres716
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I know that was my first post but not here to bash. well maybe a little but I have more to share.
Im currently flowering the pnw fake chemd, Pinkbox slh, trop cookies, in veg kushmints, Motorbreath 15, wedding cake, duct tape and gmo.
Other stuff but from seed not clones. I attached a couple pics of Pinkbox Slh at 3 weeks exactly. Reminds me of my old pheno I found in ghs pack.
Im currently flowering the pnw fake chemd, Pinkbox slh, trop cookies, in veg kushmints, Motorbreath 15, wedding cake, duct tape and gmo.
Other stuff but from seed not clones. I attached a couple pics of Pinkbox Slh at 3 weeks exactly. Reminds me of my old pheno I found in ghs pack.
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gosabres716
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Also bought chemd phinest cut and ecsd from Oneoftheluckyones530...I find it funny the ecsd has more variegation than any of my chemd cuts
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cantbuymeloveuh
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Pinks SLH is awesome. I had some grow issues after the flip and fucked it up my fault) but it had the unmistakable SLH terps goin on. Was one of the most productive cuts I have ever vegged. Will order again and try