Afganistan Collapse
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Because the shit is going to hit the fan as they say. Time to shine.
printer
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And do what? You give phrases with no real meaning to what you would think one would need to do to shine.
printer
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Kabul airport attack kills 60 Afghans, 12 US troops
Two suicide bombers and gunmen attacked crowds of Afghans flocking to Kabul’s airport Thursday, transforming a scene of desperation into one of horror in the waning days of an airlift for those fleeing the Taliban takeover. The attacks killed at least 60 Afghans and 12 U.S. troops, Afghan and U.S. officials said.
The U.S. general overseeing the evacuation vowed the United States would “go after” the perpetrators of the bombings, and warned that more such attacks are expected.
“We are working very hard right now to determine attribution, to determine who is associated with this cowardly attack. And we’re prepared to take action against them,” Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, told Pentagon reporters in a briefing. “Twenty-four-seven. We are looking for them.”
Shortly after McKenzie spoke, the Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the killings on its Amaq news channel. McKenzie said the attacks would not stop the United States from evacuating Americans and others, and flights out were continuing. He said there was a large amount of security at the airport, and alternate routes were being used to get evacuees in. In addition to the many Afghans, the State Department estimated there were as many as 1,000 Americans in Afghanistan who may want help getting out.
U.S. officials said 11 Marines and one Navy medic were among those who died. McKenzie said another 15 service members were wounded. Officials warned the toll could grow. More than 140 Afghans were wounded, an Afghan official said.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid denied that any attack was imminent at the airport, where the group’s fighters have deployed and occasionally used heavy-handed tactics to control the crowds. After the attack, he appeared to shirk blame, noting the airport is controlled by U.S. troops.
The Taliban have said they’ll allow Afghans to leave via commercial flights after the deadline next week, but it remains unclear which airlines would return to an airport controlled by the militants. Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said talks were underway between his country and the Taliban about allowing Turkish civilian experts to help run the facility.
apnews.com
Two suicide bombers and gunmen attacked crowds of Afghans flocking to Kabul’s airport Thursday, transforming a scene of desperation into one of horror in the waning days of an airlift for those fleeing the Taliban takeover. The attacks killed at least 60 Afghans and 12 U.S. troops, Afghan and U.S. officials said.
The U.S. general overseeing the evacuation vowed the United States would “go after” the perpetrators of the bombings, and warned that more such attacks are expected.
“We are working very hard right now to determine attribution, to determine who is associated with this cowardly attack. And we’re prepared to take action against them,” Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, told Pentagon reporters in a briefing. “Twenty-four-seven. We are looking for them.”
Shortly after McKenzie spoke, the Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the killings on its Amaq news channel. McKenzie said the attacks would not stop the United States from evacuating Americans and others, and flights out were continuing. He said there was a large amount of security at the airport, and alternate routes were being used to get evacuees in. In addition to the many Afghans, the State Department estimated there were as many as 1,000 Americans in Afghanistan who may want help getting out.
U.S. officials said 11 Marines and one Navy medic were among those who died. McKenzie said another 15 service members were wounded. Officials warned the toll could grow. More than 140 Afghans were wounded, an Afghan official said.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid denied that any attack was imminent at the airport, where the group’s fighters have deployed and occasionally used heavy-handed tactics to control the crowds. After the attack, he appeared to shirk blame, noting the airport is controlled by U.S. troops.
The Taliban have said they’ll allow Afghans to leave via commercial flights after the deadline next week, but it remains unclear which airlines would return to an airport controlled by the militants. Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said talks were underway between his country and the Taliban about allowing Turkish civilian experts to help run the facility.
Kabul airport attack kills 60 Afghans, 13 US troops
Two suicide bombers and gunmen have targeted crowds of Afghans flocking to Kabul’s airport to flee the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan.
apnews.com
nuskool89
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Foreign policy? This is not a “foreign policy” issue. You mean command of the US military? The commander in chief is fully responsible for the command of the military. He is the absolute top commanding officer we all obey and take orders from under UCMJ
You really think after this shit show, which could have been entirely avoided, its instilling confidence in foreign leaders/allies? The UK was kept completely in the dark, not to mention multiple other countries with citizens in Afghanistan who have frantically reacted to the lack of planning.
No matter your politics this is absolutely the first and foremost responsibility of the commander in chief (command of the military and defense of the nation’s citizens)
BudmanTX
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yep, and another 140 injured too........from the looks of it, it's ISIS-K and the Taliban doesn't like them one bit tooKabul airport attack kills 60 Afghans, 12 US troops
Two suicide bombers and gunmen attacked crowds of Afghans flocking to Kabul’s airport Thursday, transforming a scene of desperation into one of horror in the waning days of an airlift for those fleeing the Taliban takeover. The attacks killed at least 60 Afghans and 12 U.S. troops, Afghan and U.S. officials said.
The U.S. general overseeing the evacuation vowed the United States would “go after” the perpetrators of the bombings, and warned that more such attacks are expected.
“We are working very hard right now to determine attribution, to determine who is associated with this cowardly attack. And we’re prepared to take action against them,” Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, told Pentagon reporters in a briefing. “Twenty-four-seven. We are looking for them.”
Shortly after McKenzie spoke, the Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the killings on its Amaq news channel. McKenzie said the attacks would not stop the United States from evacuating Americans and others, and flights out were continuing. He said there was a large amount of security at the airport, and alternate routes were being used to get evacuees in. In addition to the many Afghans, the State Department estimated there were as many as 1,000 Americans in Afghanistan who may want help getting out.
U.S. officials said 11 Marines and one Navy medic were among those who died. McKenzie said another 15 service members were wounded. Officials warned the toll could grow. More than 140 Afghans were wounded, an Afghan official said.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid denied that any attack was imminent at the airport, where the group’s fighters have deployed and occasionally used heavy-handed tactics to control the crowds. After the attack, he appeared to shirk blame, noting the airport is controlled by U.S. troops.
The Taliban have said they’ll allow Afghans to leave via commercial flights after the deadline next week, but it remains unclear which airlines would return to an airport controlled by the militants. Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said talks were underway between his country and the Taliban about allowing Turkish civilian experts to help run the facility.
Kabul airport attack kills 60 Afghans, 13 US troops
Two suicide bombers and gunmen have targeted crowds of Afghans flocking to Kabul’s airport to flee the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan.
hanimmal
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Im curious at what point do you think this gets 'entirely avoided'?
Im ok with Biden being POTUS taking the heat. But I don't think that it should mean that people are forced into a box of ignoring the reality of what took place and was left on Biden's plate by Trump who sold us out time and again to foreign nations.
This sucks, and I am heart broken for the people who thought they would get to see their family in a few days because of these murderous dicks.
BudmanTX
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Taliban control the outer areas of the airport, till after the 31st, then they get the area back.....
honestly it's really up in the air...on who.....ISIS is first on the map though, either we will take care of them, or the Taliban will..
nuskool89
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This is such an idiotic response to the specifics that have played out in Afghanistan over the last month. Bush, Obama, and Trump have zilch, zero, nada to do with this failure.
The failed plan and timing to first evacuate US citizens, then Afghan helpers, then US military equipment, THEN the remaining servicemen, falls solely on Biden and the advisors around him.
smokinrav
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I've really tried to give Biden and his people the benefit of the doubt, considering the messes faced by them. But this is too fucking much. The asshole who approved this should be hung up by the balls.
Including Biden.
www.politico.com
Including Biden.
U.S. officials provided Taliban with names of Americans, Afghan allies to evacuate
The White House contends that limited information sharing with the Taliban is saving lives; critics argue it's putting Afghan allies in harm's way.
www.politico.com
BudmanTX
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according to what i've been reading......they're in charge of the road and pathways around the airport......the US is in charge of the airport
BudmanTX
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talk to the orange avenger first....he's the one who made the agreement in the first place.....look up DOHA agreementI've really tried to give Biden and his people the benefit of the doubt, considering the messes faced by them. But this is too fucking much. The asshole who approved this should be hung up by the balls.
U.S. officials provided Taliban with names of Americans, Afghan allies to evacuate
The White House contends that limited information sharing with the Taliban is saving lives; critics argue it's putting Afghan allies in harm's way.
CatHedral
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I think you lay blame on Biden for a massive rock the previous administration got rolling.
Keep in mind that he was blindsided by the disconnect between what senior military advisors told him and what happened. I do not classify this as a failure of the current C-in-C.
smokinrav
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It was in a Politico article I read yesterday. Can't find it now, suck. But it said point blank the US had agreed to Taliban controlled security outside the airport, where the bombs detonated.
hanimmal
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I don't buy this ignoring recent history thing.
In June we were not even sure if there was not going to be all out war with Russia. Trump fucked the visa application process for the fleeing Afghanis and dumped a steaming pile of shit on Biden (pandemic, Russia, too much to list) and the Republicans have been keeping it warm.
I asked earlier, but didn't get a response from anyone, so maybe you might know. How many Kurdish helpers did Trump evacuate ahead of the Syria withdraw?
I've really tried to give Biden and his people the benefit of the doubt, considering the messes faced by them. But this is too fucking much. The asshole who approved this should be hung up by the balls.
Including Biden.
U.S. officials provided Taliban with names of Americans, Afghan allies to evacuate
The White House contends that limited information sharing with the Taliban is saving lives; critics argue it's putting Afghan allies in harm's way.
Giving names of people showing up?
The way you responded I thought that you meant that they gave them the names of everyone in the country which is not what that link says.