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[Gemtree]

And there’s no known “cure” except isolating and re growing the plant via tissue culture?

So it’s all 100% about prevention at this point.

I saw some post in an article about soaking a cutting in fungicide will kill it. One of their examples was oxi something so might be possible to kill it

 

[xtsho]

Looking forward to all the posts from some grower with a messed up plant asking if they have HPLVD. It will be like a flashback to the "Is this TMV?" era.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

How am I neglecting that a branch may be asymptomatic when I'm the one that brought up the need for multiple tests? You said it takes 4 weeks for it to "fully spread", now you're saying it doesn't fully spread.

This is the first time I've seen you even acknowledge the need for multiple tests.

It can lay dormant in a plant and the plant can look completely healthy until stress factors trigger it, not always visible in veg.

Flowering it out should be standard practice, not just for determining if the donor plant is healthy but to also verify you're selling a legit cut.

You worded it as if flowering out a cut was how you would determine duds. No where in the post did you mention multiple tests and if you have never heard me mention multiple tests before then you have not been following along good enough. As far as verifying genetics it is all dependent on where you acquired the genetics. If you grab them straight from one of the well known distributors there is really zero reason to need to verify. Comes with a nice little stick in it to do it for you

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

Well since this issue was first identified in larger nurseries and they decided to bring this treasure trove of information to us complete with studies, data, methodology, etc... I'll state the obvious.

It's probably best if people stop getting clones and genetics from these nurseries. The testing is not reliable and any clone you get now that shows negative when you get it could be positive a month or 2 later. So basically there is no way to ensure that any clone you get from these larger nurseries is HPLVD free. We have to thank DHN for bringing this to the grower communities attention. I suggest people forgo the purchase of clones and instead start new plants from seed since even a clone that came from a plant that tested negative could be positive later and you would have brought that pathogen into your grow. And since they also claim that this pathogen can be passed along in seed I also suggest that you avoid seed from any of these outfits that have had incidents of this pathogen.

"That means infected plants can test negative in one test and then test positive several months later."

An elusive pathogen is damaging cannabis crops - here's how to fight it

Joseph Ramahi, chief science officer for Cultivaris Hemp, explains best practices for cannabis cultivators to combat hop latent viroid.

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So the solution for most growers is just to avoid these outfits since there is no guarantee that anything coming from them isn't harboring the pathogen.

The whole multiple test theory is missing a lot of information. 3-4 tests in how long of a window? Also if they mean 3-4 tests are they referring to 3 leaf samples like are sent out originally with each test?? Right now the science says it can take about four weeks to take over the whole plant so if they refer to a couple of months down the line they must be referencing without testing.

Dark heart recommends testing at initial, then two weeks, then four weeks. After that you can ensure that it is not brought in to your room by clone. Again the whole contamination from buds is an issue. But that is regardless if from clone or seed.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

Maybe if clone vendors actually flowered out their cuts they would have spotted duds not worthy of being distributed.

The post I replied to. By all means point out where you said testing again....

 

[Scuzzman]

all this crap for a plant with a life cycle of approx 4 months - there is an issue with bro science as well as facts mixed up to a make a stoners view on the subject look legit.. theirs a lot of crap strains/from so called breeders( just look at Nukeheads for one), cuts from so-called mother plants of certain strains nah- unless you know the person /grower and can trust the person why buy someone else's crap..... stick to seeds, do your own thing, trade between mates help each other

Xtsho- can you supply details on these strains you talk about please ( maybe another thread regarding the subject would be interesting)-

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

No where did I mention needing multiple tests? Right there in the post you replied to, it seems your reading comprehension is in need of some serious work, perhaps if you weren't white knighting so hard for DH you'd actually be able to slow down and read what you are replying to.

Dark Heart is known for not verifying cuts and selling fakes like SFV but hey they're well known so its all good, no need to put in any work yourself.

People who seed hunt and people who distribute clones put in just about the same amount of work. Not sure where this lack of putting in work comes from. That is like saying grocery stores should grow their own food or stores manufacture their own product. What clone distributors do is offer a service, and one which comes with risk at that. To say people are not putting in work is just ignorance.
As far as "white knighting" for DH. They have clearly put in the work. Anyone who knows me knows I do not placate but give respect where it is due. I appreciate their work as well as their investment in to the research. No need for me to slow down as clearly the post I replied to did not mention tests. You mentioned flowering out cuts to find duds. That was it.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

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You replying to me mentioning the need for multiple tests. You're going to pretend I never mentioned it because you quoted another post afterwards? I was replying to you saying I was neglecting that a branch may be asymptomatic after you quoted me saying multiple tests are needed.

You know how forums and conversations work right?

yes cupcake but this was not the post that I was replying to nor that my post that you replied to mentioned.....

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

Some people come on here trying to be helpful and some people seem to come on here trying to look for a medal or something. Not sure why all the insecurity but stop that nonsense

 

[Sqwee]

yes cupcake but this was not the post that I was replying to nor that my post that you replied to mentioned.....

No sweetheart, there were two parts to my post. One was a reply to you claiming I was somehow neglecting that a plant can have an asymmetrical branch AFTER you quoted me saying multiple tests are needed.

The next part, that you're trying to use to say I never mentioned the need for multiple test was a reply to Curious2garden that had nothing to do with my reply to you. I clearly mentioned multiple tests are needed but whatever.

Yea some people come here to be helpful and others come here to try and peddle their crap.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

No sweetheart, there were two parts to my post. One was a reply to you claiming I was somehow neglecting that a plant can have an asymmetrical branch AFTER you quoted me saying multiple tests are needed.

The next part, that you're trying to use to say I never mentioned the need for multiple test was a reply to Curious2garden that had nothing to do with my reply to you. I clearly mentioned multiple tests are needed but whatever.

Yea some people come here to be helpful and others come here to try and peddle their crap.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[Sqwee]

Whatever floats your boat.

I've been posting grow reports, photos, reviews and giving away seeds on this forum since 2013. I'm one of the few people on the Strainly thread who will actually purchase a clone and provide results up through flower. So its pretty ballsy of you to try to slander me as not helpful considering your motivation behind joining this forum and your first few posts were purely self serving and your contributions here are done with the intentions of profiting off the community.

I'm sorry my helpfulness doesn't extend to teaching you how to follow a conversation.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

I've been posting grow reports, photos, reviews and giving away seeds on this forum since 2013. I'm one of the few people on the Strainly thread who will actually purchase a clone and provide results up through flower. So its pretty ballsy of you to try to slander me as not helpful considering your motivation behind joining this forum and your first few posts were purely self serving and your contributions here are done with the intentions of profiting off the community.

I'm sorry my helpfulness doesn't extend to teaching you how to follow a conversation.

All of that came from four words and an emoji.......

 

[waterproof808]

all this crap for a plant with a life cycle of approx 4 months - there is an issue with bro science as well as facts mixed up to a make a stoners view on the subject look legit.. theirs a lot of crap strains/from so called breeders( just look at Nukeheads for one), cuts from so-called mother plants of certain strains nah- unless you know the person /grower and can trust the person why buy someone else's crap..... stick to seeds, do your own thing, trade between mates help each other

This thread isnt a debate on whether or not people should grow from clone....no amount of seed popping will ever replicate another strain. If you've never grown an elite and are just in your own world of growing your personal seed finds, then you probably wont understand the need for this thread.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

This thread isnt a debate on whether or not people should grow from clone....no amount of seed popping will ever replicate another strain. If you've never grown an elite and are just in your own world of growing your personal seed finds, then you probably wont understand the need for this thread.

Great point. This is a thread we should be using to try and weed HPLvD out of the industry to make the clone game safe again. And no this is not bias at all because of being a vendor. By all means I just want to see this plant right.

 

[xtsho]

all this crap for a plant with a life cycle of approx 4 months - there is an issue with bro science as well as facts mixed up to a make a stoners view on the subject look legit.. theirs a lot of crap strains/from so called breeders( just look at Nukeheads for one), cuts from so-called mother plants of certain strains nah- unless you know the person /grower and can trust the person why buy someone else's crap..... stick to seeds, do your own thing, trade between mates help each other

Xtsho- can you supply details on these strains you talk about please ( maybe another thread regarding the subject would be interesting)-

I don't want to start another thread but here is one that has the names of some outfits selling stuff as close as you're going to get to being unadulterated like these hybrids that have been crossed a dozen times over and over again. I've had great luck and have been extremely happy with several of them. Haven't seen any of this so called HPLVD in any of them. Basically all I grow these days and I've been smoking some of the best pot I have in years from unique strains.

Recommendations for True Landrace Strains?

I'm looking for Landrace Strains with a preference towards Indica. Afghani, Mazarr, Ketma, etc. Can anyone recommend any good, reliable, reputable breeders? I'm not interested in any crosses at all, just straight landrace strains. I've only really come across the landrace team, and some other...

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[Sqwee]

All of that came from four words and an emoji.......

No? Again you show an issue with reading comprehension and following a conversation, it came from your previous condescending post.

Sorry dropped out of conversation about global marijuana virus wiping out crops, seems hemp farmers are unaffected and uninterested.

None of this started till a few unscrupulous vendors started spreading it.

Correct, a virus that was identified in 1988 was never an issue in the cannabis community until just recently with mass legalization and the cannabis community becoming more greedy and untrustworthy.

Imagine trying to promote yourself as being one of the best clone vendors because you do testing and then saying something stupid like there is no reason for you to verify anything you're selling if you got it from a mass clone distributor.

 

[Scuzzman]

xtsho lol- spent 3 years living in Swaziland when alot longer -ran the local backpackers(Chillage) and dealt with local hill tribes - traded seeds and product for years and lived/worked with them up the hills above mbabane ..

Have seen virus destroy crops both indoor/outdoor organic/hydro in related industry's and cannabis ,mosac the worst in my view and yes this is a virus that attacks cannabis and very easily passed on and will contaminate the soil and will aways come back and is the one to be concerned about . just my view .... ex commercial organic farmer from Aussie

 

[xtsho]

No? Again you show an issue with reading comprehension and following a conversation, it came from your previous condescending post.



Correct, a virus that was identified in 1988 was never an issue in the cannabis community until just recently with mass legalization and the cannabis community becoming more greedy and untrustworthy.

Imagine trying to promote yourself as being one of the best clone vendors because you do testing and then saying something stupid like there is no reason for you to verify anything you're selling if you got it from a mass clone distributor.

Sounds like it's really only an issue with some of these larger nurseries and the genetics they carry. Good thing they identified it in the strains they have. Makes it a no brainer to just avoid those outfits.

 

[curious2garden]

I've been posting grow reports, photos, reviews and giving away seeds on this forum since 2013.
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