Will You Take The Vaccine?

[DIY-HP-LED]

But there is a lot of truth in there, our own CDC says so. The real story is that 75% of deaths from VACCINATED people involve people with 4 comorbidities.

They will not answer the question when asked about unvaccinated people. Why not? They totally dodged the question all together. Would the truth make the virus, not as scary as they want to make it?

Did you read on the news that fauci had reason to believe that this was a manmade virus that was leaked from the Wuhan lab per other studies and scientists around the world? The emails were just leaked yesterday. Did you also read that 4 days later, he totally reversed this theory to protect our international relationship with China and possibly altered reports to fit the agenda. The emails were from February last year. Fauci had a responsibility to report this to our government, did he? Did our government know the truth and hid it also?

A recent study found that 75% of all COVID-19 deaths among FULLY VACCINATED individuals involved at least four comorbidities. When CDC Director Rochelle Walensky talked about this study during an appearance on "Good Morning America," a brief clip that was missing important context went viral and was shared with the false claim that Walensky was talking about ALL COVID-19 deaths.

Source:
In January 2022, a number of conservative commentators started posting messages falsely claiming that 75% of all COVID-19 deaths involved people with at least four comorbidities. This was evidence, they claimed, that the COVID-19 pandemic was overblown and that the disease (which has resulted in more than 830,000 deaths in the United States alone) was not as dangerous as the government was saying.

Here watch the full video and not the edited bullshit version you were feed.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

But there is a lot of truth in there, our own CDC says so. The real story is that 75% of deaths from VACCINATED people involve people with 4 comorbidities.

They will not answer the question when asked about unvaccinated people. Why not? They totally dodged the question all together. Would the truth make the virus, not as scary as they want to make it?

Did you read on the news that fauci had reason to believe that this was a manmade virus that was leaked from the Wuhan lab per other studies and scientists around the world? The emails were just leaked yesterday. Did you also read that 4 days later, he totally reversed this theory to protect our international relationship with China and possibly altered reports to fit the agenda. The emails were from February last year. Fauci had a responsibility to report this to our government, did he? Did our government know the truth and hid it also?

The how come most of the people in the hospital for covid are unvaxxed when they make up such a small minority of the population? How come almost everybody in the ICU for covid is unvaxxed? Only the old vaxxed and those with comorbidities are in hospital and many of those recover.

This is from Dec 17th 2021, omicron is hospitalizing fewer people, but is hard on the unvaxxed

Statement from the Chief Public Health Officer of Canada on December 17, 2021 - Canada.ca

On December 17, 2021, Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer, issued the following statement on COVID-19.

www.canada.ca

Among youth and adults aged 12 to 59 years, unvaccinated people were 31 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people. Among older adults aged 60 years or older, unvaccinated people were 15 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.

 

[DurumGallico]

I never said you talked about simple covid, you refereed it as simple covid. Just a term I have not heard yet, so I asked.

Flu kills people also, Flu season increases the number of people in ICU's. We do not blame people for not taking Flu shot as the number of people dying from the Flu in no way compares to the numbers covid has taken.

You seem to miss the point of taking the vaccine right now. Hospitals are overloaded with patients. What would it be like without 75% of the population doing the right thing and rolling up their sleeves?

I agree with you it should be the person's choice if they isolate themselves from the rest of society so that when they either get sick they can not pass the virus along or if they give up their right to medical help. The vaccines do not have to be a 100% efficient magical treatment. I do not think there is any vaccine that is a magic bullet that has a 100% success rate and does not cause any harm. On the triple vaccinated dying from covid, yes they could. So are you saying these people are the reason the rest of us should not take it? If that is the case you are a lost cause.

Hum don't think i talked about that, it might be my bad english sorry.

I don't think the issue is the number of dead people. this guy says i'm a killer because i could transmit it to weak people, we could make the exact same logic with flu, and he's wrong, no matter how much people could be impacted by my decision the logic is the same.
And he's 100% wrong, as i said it's up to the fragile people to be protected, and not the entire population that must treat themselve in order to prevent other people to be sick. Medecine does not work like that, you take a medecine to heal not to prevent other people to be sick.

We have examples of countries hit by omicron with a low vaccinated population, South Africa to name one, and there was not a huge increase of hospitalizations and deaths, your logic is based on suppositions. The truth is that we really don't know how much massive vaccination impacted the pandemic.

Sorry but your logic is biased ; vaccine don't prevent transmission, only severe forms of the disease. Vaccinated people still can transmit and spread the disease, and it's the major point why restrictive law against unvaccinated people are unefficient and even counter-productive. Vaccinated people, with this bias in mind, don't care anymore about social distancing and spread the disease a lot more than an unvaccinated forced to stay home.
About loss of medical help for unvaccinated, i don't agree also. If we follow your logics then smokers, obese, alcoholics, roadhogs, etc etc definitely shouldn't get heatlhcare too.

I said this to point that it was not a miracle bullet as you agreed. Old people in bad health should definitely protect themselves with vaccine, younger healthy people don't need to.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

About loss of medical help for unvaccinated, i don't agree also. If we follow your logics then smokers, obese, alcoholics, roadhogs, etc etc definitely shouldn't get heatlhcare too.

Logical fallacy, these are different problems and if it were as easy to drop addictions or lose weight, there would be no drunks, smokers or fat people. It's not as easy as getting a jab in the arm, but some folks are afraid of needles and will say anything to hide their weakness. An apples and oranges issue that the simple minded regularly conflate, it shows the low quality of critical thinking involved.

 

[OG-KGP]

The how come most of the people in the hospital for covid are unvaxxed when they make up such a small minority of the population? How come almost everybody in the ICU for covid is unvaxxed? Only the old vaxxed and those with comorbidities are in hospital and many of those recover.

This is from Dec 17th 2021, omicron is hospitalizing fewer people, but is hard on the unvaxxed

Statement from the Chief Public Health Officer of Canada on December 17, 2021 - Canada.ca

On December 17, 2021, Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer, issued the following statement on COVID-19.

www.canada.ca

Among youth and adults aged 12 to 59 years, unvaccinated people were 31 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people. Among older adults aged 60 years or older, unvaccinated people were 15 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people.

Im not denying the vaccine works.

I have never been vaxed, I tested positive last week for covid as a matter of fact, light cough for about 24 hours and a little tired. I've had worse hangovers. I only speak for myself. I don't know a single person first hand that was hospitalized or died. Maybe its a blessing.

I hope all the people that are immune compromised get vaxed and stay inside. I wish everyone good health or speedy recoveries.

Im just not scared is all. I stayed home for 5 days. I ordered contactless door dash when I was hungry. My fam didn't get sick at all and were quarantined with me the whole time.

I also know a health care worker who had 2 shots and a booster and has caught covid three times and was pretty ill. Maybe it was because she was fat, unhealthy, eats junk food, and doesn't exercise.

Maybe better life choices are better than any vaccine?

 

[hanimmal]

Lol i'm sorry for you, don't know what happened in your life to be such a dick but i feel you bro

 

[DurumGallico]

Logical fallacy, these are different problems and if it were as easy to drop addictions or lose weight, there would be no drunks, smokers or fat people. It's not as easy as getting a jab in the arm, but some folks are afraid of needles and will say anything to hide their weakness. An apples and oranges issue that the simple minded regularly conflate, it shows the low quality of critical thinking involved.

And we come to the point that makes it a non sense, how do you define the easiness of the cure ? I mean stop smoking is up to you, you have medecine to help you, if you don't do so you are just an unconscious selfish undirect killer. Same bullshit logic.

Medecine is and a has always be a personal choice. Zero fallacy here, just an obvious rule applied for centuries.
Obligatory vaccines prevent from serious and dangerous diseases. Covid is not tetanos, covid is not polio, covid is not diphtérie.
There is not a single reason to force vaccination against covid since they don't prevent transmission and spread. And even, if it was, it would be a hard moral and ethic question and not an obvious thing that only fearing weak people against a jab shouldn't follow.

 

[hanimmal]

Im not denying the vaccine works.

I have never been vaxed, I tested positive last week for covid as a matter of fact, light cough for about 24 hours and a little tired. I've had worse hangovers. I only speak for myself. I don't know a single person first hand that was hospitalized or died. Maybe its a blessing.

I hope all the people that are immune compromised get vaxed and stay inside. I wish everyone good health or speedy recoveries.

Im just not scared is all. I stayed home for 5 days. I ordered contactless door dash when I was hungry. My fam didn't get sick at all and were quarantined with me the whole time.

I also know a health care worker who had 2 shots and a booster and has caught covid three times and was pretty ill. Maybe it was because she was fat, unhealthy, eats junk food, and doesn't exercise.

https://www.newsweek.com/kickboxing-champ-dies-after-refusing-admit-he-has-covid-checking-himself-out-hospital-1663418

Maybe better life choices are better than any vaccine?

 

[OG-KGP]

https://www.newsweek.com/kickboxing-champ-dies-after-refusing-admit-he-has-covid-checking-himself-out-hospital-1663418
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Of course there are exceptions. Its life.

 

[hanimmal]

Of course there are exceptions. Its life.

Just like everyone is a great drunk driver until they are not.

 

[OG-KGP]

Just like everyone is a great drunk driver until they are not.
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If the shoe fits...

 

[DurumGallico]

Of course there are exceptions. Its life.

and there's ton of other diseases and situations where young and healthy people might die, diseases and situations they don't absolutely search to prevent, since the risk is so low. But some guys here don't get that, old boomers fearing for their life and not comprehending younger and healthier guys wouldn't share their obsessed fears.

 

[hanimmal]

If the shoe fits...

Yeah, unvaccinated people pretending like they are essentially Jehovah Witnesses when it comes to the medical advice given by the almost entirety of the doctors in our nation does sure fit the description of a idiot who thinks they can drive drunk just fine.

 

[schuylaar]

and there's ton of other diseases and situations where young and healthy people might die, diseases and situations they don't absolutely search to prevent, since the risk is so low. But some guys here don't get that, old boomers fearing for their life and not comprehending younger and healthier guys wouldn't share their obsessed fears.

reality. try it.

Coronavirus and COVID-19: Younger Adults Are at Risk, Too

Early reports indicated that young people were more likely to have milder cases of the disease. But that view may be changing.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

 

[DurumGallico]

reality. try it.

Coronavirus and COVID-19: Younger Adults Are at Risk, Too

Early reports indicated that young people were more likely to have milder cases of the disease. But that view may be changing.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

3000 on 33 millions from 18 to 34.

 

[NotTheRobot]

I'm getting a third shot today. I've read that some vaccines protect in the high 90 percent area after 4 months while other brands are in the low 70's. Some places are giving half doses now. When I show up the site I show up at gives me what ever is available. The end result is how protected I get is not under my control in Canada.

I have the right to hop on a cruise ship/plane, go to a concert with tens of thousands other people, shop in crowded malls, etc. but there are few things that are more important to me than staying healthy. The vaccines are part of the answer but covid bugs skipped the class on constitutional rights and what a political party is and don't know a thing about them. I have to eat and see other people to live so I may get covid at some point but if I have a choice of a concert or staying covid free I'll take covid free every time.

Financial situations will start changing soon with government money tightening up. Inflation is up, government funding is dropping, and interest rates are going up at the same time as peoples benefits run out. It may turn out 2020 was "the good old days".

 

[OG-KGP]

3000 on 33 millions from 18 to 34.

Exactly! whats that? 0.00909090909090909%

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Im not denying the vaccine works.

I have never been vaxed, I tested positive last week for covid as a matter of fact, light cough for about 24 hours and a little tired. I've had worse hangovers. I only speak for myself. I don't know a single person first hand that was hospitalized or died. Maybe its a blessing.

I hope all the people that are immune compromised get vaxed and stay inside. I wish everyone good health or speedy recoveries.

Im just not scared is all. I stayed home for 5 days. I ordered contactless door dash when I was hungry. My fam didn't get sick at all and were quarantined with me the whole time.

I also know a health care worker who had 2 shots and a booster and has caught covid three times and was pretty ill. Maybe it was because she was fat, unhealthy, eats junk food, and doesn't exercise.

Maybe better life choices are better than any vaccine?

Maybe you are wrong about vaccines and got lucky with omicron, many are not so lucky. You had no valid reason to refuse vaccination other than fear and bullshit. Maybe your one of the 18 to 34 year old's who are vaccine resistant, it doesn't really matter, you put yourself before your neighbors and community. What do heroes have in common and why are they universally admired? They put others before themselves and when people do the opposite, they get the opposite reaction.

 

[hanimmal]

3000 on 33 millions from 18 to 34.

So you are saying that U of M children's hospital is lying when they say that they are almost out of room for all the sick kids?

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigan-medicine-feeling-the-surge-of-omicron-covid-19-cases



What kind of scare shitty asshole does someone have to be to not care about sick kids and helping our hospital workers and spread propaganda by using cherry picked data from prior to the Omicron strain?

 

[hanimmal]

Can you just answer without being a total dickhead and insulting me every time ?

For the new Death cult troll? Of course, what would you like to talk about?