Fogdog
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Thanks for this.
We see it so often "both sides bad"
intellectually lazy if not dishonest. The problem is, too many people actually believe that.
Should the US shed blood for Ukraine
- Thread starter Jimdamick
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We see it so often "both sides bad"
intellectually lazy if not dishonest. The problem is, too many people actually believe that.
Sativied
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Yes I responsed to disinformation… by pointing out it was disinformation from China’s state Fox news, which is currently itself committing genocide in nearly 400 camps.
China has built 380 internment camps in Xinjiang, study finds
Construction has continued despite Beijing’s claim ‘re-education’ system is winding down
www.theguardian.com
Did you think my summary of china was about the US?
Either way, gimme my apologies back lol
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Fogdog
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Uh, no.But I love they're cooking
Do you know why spice is used so heavily in Indian food?
It's to hide/cover the stench of the decay in whatever is the special of the day.
As a matter all they're food relies on the extreme use of spice.
It's all camouflaged shit.
It's all sauce, meant to cover whatever they want to dump at the moment.
Think about that the next time you order the vindaloo.
Same thing with the incense
If it wasn't for that, rooms would be uninhabitable.
Seriously, ask anyone that's been there.
They'll all say the same thing
It's the filthiest place on the Globe, bar none.
It's been said that Danes/Norwegians have a tendency to faint once they land.
I have a friend who worked in Russia sometimes & he went on a business trip with a fellow worker & the guy bought something from a street vendor & my friend warned him, but of course he ate it anyway.
Long story short, 36 hours later he was airlifted out of the country to Germany because whatever he had the Russians couldn't fix.
The guy recovered but I think they had to remove some colon.
There's your Indian food.
I rather eat Brit food, least it won't kill you.
rkymtnman
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agreed. and if that was his end goal, you'd think he would have done this in Nov or December when it starts getting cold, not almost in March when temps start rising.
just a guess though. maybe just general chaos and/or confusion is all putin is trying to accomplish?
hanimmal
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Maybe Trump is about to flip, or at least get the shit squeezed out of him (the accountant flipping is a big one too)
There has been a whole lot of dismantling of the Russian propaganda network here in the states lately.
It seems like the German Chancellor is not a stooge of Putin (although this is based on very little information), and with the French elections in about 2 months, it might be his last chance to get a major puppet in office for a while.
Who knows. I usually try to not predict crazy.
There has been a whole lot of dismantling of the Russian propaganda network here in the states lately.
It seems like the German Chancellor is not a stooge of Putin (although this is based on very little information), and with the French elections in about 2 months, it might be his last chance to get a major puppet in office for a while.
Who knows. I usually try to not predict crazy.
BudmanTX
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u also gotta realize the Ukraine has an election up in 2yrs too..
Roger A. Shrubber
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yes
yes
so?
what would you call real saNctions?
Biden's head is not up his ass, and he's starting small so he has somewhere to go with it, if you go as heavy as you can right off the bat you have no room to negotiate
a lot of people don't agree with how Biden handled that, it is true. of course, trump the fucking idiot started that all rolling, and set the deadline for after the election...
i personally think NATO should put boots not only on the ground, but on putin's neck..nuclear though? i highly doubt that will happen, this is about real estate, and image...
perhaps becasue he thought it might help avoid this very situation...so his only real mistake is underestimating how big a fucking thief and tyrant putin is
Biden was senator for deleware for 16 years, vice president for 8...he has a law degree from syracuse university...i'll take his opinion over your 7 days a week....
you should try harder...
rkymtnman
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and why the sudden love for russia from the FOXbots like tucker? is it just for ratings? or are a lot of the gop taking russian money too? reagan would be spinning in his grave right now.
Roger A. Shrubber
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see, this is what kind of shit trolls spread...they have never been here, probably never met an American, but they know all about us, let them tell you...
Roger A. Shrubber
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well..in your opinion...that adds some real value to a pile of horseshit....
we've tried cooperating with putin, and he stole everything, including the fucking sink...putin breaks down walls meant to keep his aggression out, and all we can do short of starting a world war is put heavier and heavier sanctions in place...but if we go too hard, he may turn to china, who will give him what he wants in the short term, and eat him and russia alive in the not too distant future...and then we'll have to deal with them, and so will Europe, because they'll now be right in your back yard, where russia used to be.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The man who launched the GOP on its current course of ruin. Trickle down economics and an assault on our natural and social ecologies. A hateful legacy.
Kassiopeija
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so I see a pattern emerging:see, this is what kind of shit trolls spread...they have never been here, probably never met an American, but they know all about us, let them tell you...
whoever isn't shareing your opinion/views is discredited as a TROLL (and thereby ill-legitimite)
maybe only having 2 major political factions has led to this 'blind-eyed'...
we have 6-7, need to form coalitions via compromising.... hint hint
hanimmal
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Yeah they are really all in now. This is the last gasp of the troll that they have been pushing since at least 2006 (IMO that is when this started). They know with the bit coin thefts being nabbed by the FBI that their dark money scams are being watched/tracked and can't be relied on to not get ripped out from under them.
All the breadcrumbs that we are learning about in the press (pandora papers, jan 6th rioters and the people who funded them, Trump's funding, Erik Prince being outed for efforts to spy on politicians, etc) is making their investment in screwing us come to its ultimate conclusion (hopefully, but seems likely) really soon. And Rupert Murdoch and OANN know that they are deep in it too.
So what does these dick head do when they get caught? Hope like hell that the decades of trolling hold as they double down and throw everything they can to distract for as long as possible, and that the Republicans can miraculously (in their shit point of view) win power to stymie everything Biden does as Putin/MBS sinks the free world into a recession with his bullshit war to gum up everything long enough for them to try to win a 2024 election and get their cases dropped/pardoned.
Just a bullshit guess by me though.
hanimmal
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Nein. The propaganda attack that has used the two party system we have to maintain power for the mega wealthy that got hijacked by foreign dictators and their militarized troll army, led to this 'blind-eyed'.
It does look like you posted some propaganda link though, do you at least see that?
rkymtnman
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i might be wrong ( i was pre-teen) but at least reagan came off as strong against russia and they were (and still should be) our sworn enemy. only since trump have i seen "i'd rather be russian than a democrat" kinda crap from the GOP
and as flawed as ukrainian democracy is, americans should still root for them over russia.
Fogdog
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I think this story will become more than speculation if/when Trump Inc is broken and found guilty under RICO.
For now, we have this story as an example of how this might unfold:
GOP operatives funneling Russian money to Trump is the latest foreign “straw” donor scheme
GOP operatives funneling Russian money to Trump is the latest foreign “straw” donor scheme
GOP operatives allegedly funneling Russian money to Donald Trump’s joint fundraising committee is the latest foreign straw donor scheme.
www.opensecrets.org
Benton, a former campaign manager for Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), worked for the pro-Trump super PAC Great America PAC in 2016. In December 2020, Benton was pardoned by Trump on charges tied to hiding bribes in a 2012 scandal. At the time, Benton allegedly paid a vendor who then paid a subvendor, violating the FEC’s ultimate vendor disclosure rules.
Wead was a White House adviser during former President George H.W. Bush’s presidency and also worked for Paul as well as the Kentucky senator’s father, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas). In 2019, Wead released a book titled “Inside Trump’s White House.”
Mitch McConnel and Rand Paul are involved, if not implicated. Then there is the NRA, Buttina story.
Maria Butina: The Russian gun activist who was jailed in the US
Maria Butina has been freed from US jail, after a prison stint for efforts to infiltrate US politics.
www.bbc.com
Roger A. Shrubber
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i think it's both for ratings, and he's trapped himself into being against everything Democrats support...he'll invent reasons for his stupidity after the fact
rkymtnman
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i'm like you. i barely understand US poilitics let alone global. lol.
if this is an attempt by the gop and russia to make biden look bad, i don't think that's gonna work. even japan is sayign they want sanctions on russia too now.