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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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printer said:
Russia is a major exporter of grain and fertilizer, going to contries like China, India and Egypt. Weapons to others. This gives Russia leverage against those countries. They are all sitting on the sidelines while the "West" is the ones putting pressure on Russia. If it were not for Russia's exports they would have more countries against them. Also I doubt Ukraine will be getting a crop in this year putting more pressure on the countries by Russia.
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I don't think anybody will sanction food related things, it would cause global inflation, Russia depended on western groceries and didn't produce much domestically. So Chinese groceries (hope they like rice) would be ok, I imagine they are still selling enough oil to Europe to keep the food chain going. I can't see them stopping European groceries going to Russia, though they might have trouble affording them. Western Ukraine could get some crops in this year, it's awhile until planting season and it can be moved to Europe by rail and truck. Also an embargo might not apply to agricultural equipment going to Russia, there's plenty of room for compromise around this issue, famine is bad for everybody.
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
I don't think anybody will sanction food related things, it would cause global inflation, Russia depended on western groceries and didn't produce much domestically. So Chinese groceries (hope they like rice) would be ok, I imagine they are still selling enough oil to Europe to keep the food chain going. I can't see them stopping European groceries going to Russia, though they might have trouble affording them. Western Ukraine could get some crops in this year, it's awhile until planting season and it can be moved to Europe by rail and truck. Also an embargo might not apply to agricultural equipment going to Russia, there's plenty of room for compromise around this issue, famine is bad for everybody.
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Who is going to plant with a war going on? Do you really think things are going to get back to normal by spring? It is more the less developed countries that will feel the missing production.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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printer said:
Who is going to plant with a war going on? Do you really think things are going to get back to normal by spring? It is more the less developed countries that will feel the missing production.
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Depending on the war situation I believe Ukrainian farmers will most likely plant this spring, only 10% of the country is occupied and in a month that could be a lot less. There is most likely a contingency plan being developed for this now with EU assistance. They farmed during the battle of Britain and in other recent conflicts, if they could, often they cannot afford not too. Most of the attacks will continue to be focused on the cities and I believe the Russians will be driven back in many areas soon. Planting in the spring would also be symbolic in Ukraine. Now let's just hope Vlad doesn't use chemical weapons on the cities and fuck up everybody's day, including his.
 
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Planting season already started for some crops, just a few more weeks till sunflower planting season in Ukraine. Window will remain open for a while but very unlikely the war will end soon enough to make up for the damage in the entire chain. Non-ukranian europeans own many large farm areas in Ukraine and some already assume they won’t be going back anytime soon.

Turks trying to get their hands on sunflower oil:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500172088816152578

On the opposite west side of Europe stores are already running out too. Much to the dismay of the Flemish:

www.freshplaza.com

"We're sure of only another month's deliveries"

This week, word came that it is all hands on deck at Belgian potato processors. Ukraine and Russia supply 75% of that country's sunflower oil. They use that to process potatoes into French…
www.freshplaza.com www.freshplaza.com

Regardless of whenever the war ends, this is going to get far worse.
 
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I occurred to me that the North Korean army is probably as shitty as the Russian army. If the South Koreans built a million switchblade drones and other stealthy types, they could overwhelm the North Koreans. They could take out every artillery gun aimed at their capitol almost instantly with pre programed drones custom made for the job. If they knew where the fat fuck kept his nukes and where he was, it would be game over pretty quick. I think South Korea would go through the North Korean army pretty quick by themselves and go right to the Yalu river. Something I'm sure they are considering after this fiasco, these soviet style armies are very vulnerable to high technology attacks, for now.
 
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Sativied said:
Planting season already started for some crops, just a few more weeks till sunflower planting season in Ukraine. Window will remain open for a while but very unlikely the war will end soon enough to make up for the damage in the entire chain. Non-ukranian europeans own many large farm areas in Ukraine and some already assume they won’t be going back anytime soon.

Turks trying to get their hands on sunflower oil:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500172088816152578

On the opposite west side of Europe stores are already running out too. Much to the dismay of the Flemish:

www.freshplaza.com

"We're sure of only another month's deliveries"

This week, word came that it is all hands on deck at Belgian potato processors. Ukraine and Russia supply 75% of that country's sunflower oil. They use that to process potatoes into French…
www.freshplaza.com www.freshplaza.com

Regardless of whenever the war ends, this is going to get far worse.
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Perhaps not as bad as feared, I don't think food and agricultural items will be high on the embargo list and we will be taking measures to mitigate things. I'm not saying there won't be problems, just not as bad as people fear. Russia depends on European groceries and produce almost none of their own and Chinese groceries might not appeal to Russians. Fucking with the food supply is not in Vlad's best interest either, hunger can happen in Russia too and inflation is already a major headache for Vlad. Hunger leads to political unrest, even in democracies, it's worse in dictatorships where there is one man to blame and many in the democracies will be blaming him too.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/pan-america-1250-special.html#2022-pan-america-1250-special-010
click on the pic of one of the bikes, it goes to a video of them running on and off road...not the bike i would choose for a baja race, but it does look like it'll run off road
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The kind of off-road I'd be doing is washed out old logging roads and would be packing a chain saw for all the trees across my path. Much more sedate travel. We used to have a Honda 90 bush bike up at the cabin and I went all over with that thing. Air intake was under the seat so if your ass wasn't getting wet you could drive through it. Hi-Lo transmission switch so top speed in high gear in low range was about 15mph but the thing would go straight up if it could get traction. The bike is still at my bro-in-laws place and his son was rebuilding it when I was out last Oct. It'll be going back to the lake when it's done.

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DIY-HP-LED

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The big drone is also used to radio relay to and from the suicide drone. A plane might carry a half dozen such killer drones and they might even be starlink or military satellite controlled and then the planes would be unjammable flying high up. These might be the modern choice for tactical air support, the drone plane would be high up above the range of a manpad and stealthy too. The big plane would not control the killer drones by radio, once fired they would use GPS and laser guidance to the target, provided by another drone or the mothership, so no radio emissions to track for the satellite controlled mother ship when it fires the killer drones.
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Chris Hayes: Three Possible Ways The Russia-Ukraine Conflict Could End

Chris Hayes lays out three ways the war in Ukraine could end: “The third way this conflict ends is with some actual diplomatic solution with a ceasefire, a withdrawal of Russian troops, and some agreed upon path forward. There is a real question about whether that is actually achievable—and whether Russia is at all interested in that outcome.”
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Even cheap DJI type video drones could be useful for reconnaissance and for commanders to monitor battles in this environment. Civilians owned many thousands of them in Ukraine before the war, I wonder how many are being used with irregular forces, they would be very useful.
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Ukraine War - Drone Shows Intense Close Combat Between Ukrainian & Russian Troops In Kherson


Drone footage recorded by a resident of Kherson shows a really unique and rare glimpse on close combat between elements of two professional armies.
 
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CCGNZ

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injinji said:
Last night on the BBC they were talking about what happened when the first POW videos were posted. The sister of one of the boys went to their base, and the folks would not tell her anything. His mother said after what he said, he could not come back to Russia, so to her, it was as if he were already dead.
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I feel for those poor Russian conscripted teenagers,their whole life was in front of them and they never had a chance,just another eg. of how life is not fair.
 
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