oldtymemusic
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i used a cmh for a couple years on my tester spot. bad mistake. i put my roadkill in there for a run. got a bit more but less stinky not as road kill ish. now the 630cmh is for sale! hps for me
TheChemist77
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I’m not yet sold on my led lighting. I ran hps/mh for over 20 years took some time but I switched to cmh and was getting better gpw. Now I just switched everything over to led,my thought was electrical savings but I’m still pulling just as many watts. My plants are yellowing in veg, never had this problem before, same nutrients, ph is perfect, temps never go above 78* f never below 60*. I raised the lights I had it at 100% 20 inches above raised it to 2 feet. I don’t plan to use dim function, I just don’t see a point, in the bloom they will get 100% start to finish anyways. Any idea on what could be causing all this yellow?
Paul-n-Chukka
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oldtymemusic
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them cmh will put growths on your eyes!! dont ask how i know!
mindriot
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I just switched to LED last year from HPS to test things out and noticed I need a lot more heat to keep them happy. Like mid 80's.
TheChemist77
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I’m in upper mi, still winter here. Right now my temps are between 60-78, when’d summer hits I’ll change my thermostat to keep both veg n flower rooms to between 60-85. I’m really not happy hitting anything higher than 85. I run an air conditioner in summer and de humidifier to keep humidity below 65% during winter everything is easier to control and humidity never( unless I mist) goes above 57%.
GrownAtHighAltitude
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Been growing the Shoreline OG cut for about 4 or 5 years now almost exclusively under CMH. Both 400 retrofit and 315 Phillips and Hortilux. Plenty of rotten roadkill stink comes through just fine.
It ain't the lights.
It ain't the lights.
oldtymemusic
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ive had road kill under hps for about the same time. always the same, when i finally did a run under de cmh , it doesnt even come close to the hps stuff. it was still stink yes. my guys even asked what was up...
Blueberry bref
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Anyone come across this article before? Basically the story here is that the government created a limonene derived spray that could be crop dusted on Mexican fields after they had been treated with paraquat, as the government thought the smell would act as a deterant to consumption since the weed was tainted and toxic.
Some other articles that I've found from that period allude to (but ultimately laugh off the legitimacy of) nationwide college protests because the paraquat tainted weed was still being harvested, packaged, and sold north of the border and the US government was trying to bury their involvement. Best that I can tell, the program started to combat the farms fueling the coke industry but was quietly shifted to include pot fields as well.
What led me down this weird tangent was the product "skunkify" that is sold through the terpene store. They've had it on their site now for a year or two as an additive for disty carts, the only ingredient listed is limonene, and they describe it as something thats impressively vile. I've always made jokes about the shit with the guys I work with; but part of me wants to buy a bottle and some boofy mids to see how far off it is.
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Mr. Chance
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Hey just curious where did you source this Shoreline cut? Reason I ask is because I have researched the original Shoreline cut on the internet and I know all about the Grateful Dead shows and where it came from but its very hard to find. I purchased multiple seed packs of the Shoreline BX from the company called Shoreline seeds along with their Crippy, Sour D, Dopehouse, Texas RK. Some online peeps said that the Shoreline seed company isn't putting out the heat quite like the original Shoreline. I see mixed reviews on this. People are saying the real shoreline is super hard to find but amazing.
I still bought the Shoreline BX from the guy he was cool and the pictures looked good so I did the multi pack deal. Im gonna run them soon just curious where you got yours from. Hopefully asking where you sourced something isn't against the rules I know trading is I already got a slap on the wrist for that LOL
UpstateRecGrower
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You probably need an EC boost. Is your light intensity higher? How many Watts per sq/ft of HPS were you running previously and how much of led currently?
Northeastskier
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There's nothing better at perpetuating false information and reinforcing false narratives...no offense.
As I understand it, the skunk smell is mainly caused by myrcene and gives the smell similar to the thiols that comes out of a skunks ass. Although there is thiols in hops, you have to boil it and expose it to sunlight to synthesize its sulfur-hydrogen bond. Hops and cannabis x, are cousins.
GrownAtHighAltitude
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Shoreline x Deadhead OG was what Wes (Shoreline Genetics) brought to Colorado with him from Houston. I met up with him years ago and got it in person. He gave me some seeds at the time too but I didn't end up having any luck with those. The cut was nice though and I have kept it since.
A few years after that he wound up working with some other people who had the original Shoreline cut still and he made the back crosses, BX1, BX2, Tx Roadkill, etc.
The Shoreline OG cut is unimproved so it is finicky outside in my short season, and isn't pure Tx Shoreline but it is close enough for me that I have kept it going for years now. It's got that RKS and burned rubber funk, with hints of leather, chocolate and citrus. Grown indoors, it produces reasonable buds with a decent enough high.
I have original Tahoe OG also and I will smoke both of those side by side and am happy enough. Maybe some others wouldn't be.
This year I am growing out TexCanna Creations Shoreline BX and so far, absolutely no RKS funk out of two phenos. I popped two Shoreline Genetics BX2s and I am anxious to get them I to flower so I can compare.
I like Wes's strains. I am also growing his Sour D and it is loud so far. I just got the Weasel/Albany Sour Diesel cut so I am going to compare to that soon also. For the price you can't beat his gear and service IMO.
Mr. Chance
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Im really glad you said that man! I spoke with Wes on the phone like 2 years ago. He was such a nice guy that I felt like I had to support his business. He was doing a 5 pack special and I splurged. His gear looked great online it was actually the Crippy that sucked me in. She was so beautiful in the forum board photos that I did a google search for "Crippy" online and it led me to Wes's website. I haven't popped anything yet but Im going to soon. 2 years I hope the viability is still good in the packs they have been in my bedroom closet room temp whole time. I am looking for loud strains like everyone else I got the following strains in the current mix about to rock...
90s SSH Catpiss BX3 (Cut from JR at Old school chronic)
90s SD Catpiss Kush cross
90s Burnt Rubber Skunk (Kentucky Organics)
1988 Skunk #1 (Authentic Genetics)
80s NL #5 (Original seed stock Authentic Genetics)
XXX OG
Fire OG
Molokai Frost
Puna Diesel
Garlic Bud (Thug Pug)
HellRaiser OG (Cut From JR)
Pure Sativa Haze from AK (Cut from JR)
Old School OG (My homie Steve's strain)
Old School Blueberry Kush (My homie John's strain)
Crippy (Shoreline)
Shoreline BX2 (Shoreline)
Dopehouse (Shoreline)
Texas RK (Shoreline)
Sour D (Shoreline)
Im hoping I find some gold in the seed packs maybe a lucky magic pheno thats really loud. This is gonna be a multi year project Im hoping to choose best males and females only maybe 1 or 2 strains that were the top out of everything then pollen cross them and hunt the F1s. In no way am I claiming Im gonna find the RKS but I do have some funky cool old shit so Im hoping to find something that is at least good. Im trying to get an original 1997 SSH Catpiss cut thats NOT a BX and Im pretty close to getting it. Guy I know has a M and F from 1997 the piss smell will burn your nose.
Paul-n-Chukka
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Its the UV that breaks down compounds into the 321 we smell as skunk.
Same process occurs in skunked beer(green bottle).
SFnone
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Certain lights may contribute to the smell some, and chemical sprays may have accounted for some imported buds, but ultimately some strains are just more skunky than others. I've had times, (in the states), where someone was growing outdoors, and it reeked of skunk spray from many yards away. I can still smell it. Seems like anymore, you can walk right up to plants outdoors and not smell anything. The skunk weed was real... and it has vanished, for real.