CSI humboldt thread

Burton79

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Thanks for the warning about Lemon Party S1 being likely to herm compared to others. I’ve seen that mentioned in past threads. Not sure if I’ll try an easier strain first or not. I definitely still want to try it.

I’m still trying to decide what size tent to buy. I have a 5 plant limit, so if I flower 4 plants at a time in a 4x4, I can’t have much going in veg until flowering is done, which might not be ideal. If I want to do a “perpetual” grow where I start new plants vegging while others are flowering, that would have to be with maybe only 2 plants in veg and 2 in flower.
I feel like it’s worth it to always have both veg and flower going, (let me know if you don’t agree). Having two 2x4 tents is probably enough in that case, if I keep 2 in veg and 2 in flower. (Instead of flowering 4 at once and needing a 4x4 tent).

I’m in a small apartment. I could fit a 4x4 in my bedroom and a 2x4 in the closet, but it might be better to have two 2x4’s in my closet. I have a closet that is 2’x8’x12’ that could easily fit two 2x4x5 tents. 5 plant limit sucks, but oh well!
I think it is worth growing what you are excited about and what will be fun. Herms are easy enough to spot and remove, albeit never what you want to find. I have yet to have a herm plant I couldn't clean up and take all the way through.
 
I think it is worth growing what you are excited about and what will be fun. Herms are easy enough to spot and remove, albeit never what you want to find. I have yet to have a herm plant I couldn't clean up and take all the way through.
That’s reassuring. Many people say to trash any seeds that herm though, so I’m still not sure! It’s good to hear that catching a herm early and removing can work out.
 

jdoorn14

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Thanks for the warning about Lemon Party S1 being likely to herm compared to others. I’ve seen that mentioned in past threads. Not sure if I’ll try an easier strain first or not. I definitely still want to try it.

I’m still trying to decide what size tent to buy. I have a 5 plant limit, so if I flower 4 plants at a time in a 4x4, I can’t have much going in veg until flowering is done, which might not be ideal. If I want to do a “perpetual” grow where I start new plants vegging while others are flowering, that would have to be with maybe only 2 plants in veg and 2 in flower.
I feel like it’s worth it to always have both veg and flower going, (let me know if you don’t agree). Having two 2x4 tents is probably enough in that case, if I keep 2 in veg and 2 in flower. (Instead of flowering 4 at once and needing a 4x4 tent).

I’m in a small apartment. I could fit a 4x4 in my bedroom and a 2x4 in the closet, but it might be better to have two 2x4’s in my closet. Decisions! I have a closet that is 2’x8’x12’ that could easily fit two 2x4x5 tents. 5 plant limit sucks, but oh well!
As someone who's still a relatively new grower as compared to some of the oldtimers here, I'd suggest starting small. A 2x4 tent is easier/cheaper to light than a 4x4. And even though you can legally have 5 plants, it may be beneficial to start out with one, especially if you don't garden or otherwise grow plants. Get your sea legs on a day trip before you ship out to sea for 4 months, so to speak. You can always expand into a perpetual grow. I mean, you can always shrink too--that's how some of us find relatively new gear for cheap on FB Marketplace. :D
 
If it’s known to herm, being you’re a new grower, I’d be looking at another strain bro. Go with Triangle Kush S1. Everyone raves about it
Thanks
If it’s known to herm, being you’re a new grower, I’d be looking at another strain bro. Go with Triangle Kush S1. Everyone raves about it
Thanks! I will take the chat’s advice and avoid the herm-prone lemon party for my first grow. :cool: I’ll buy a pack and keep it for later.
 
As someone who's still a relatively new grower as compared to some of the oldtimers here, I'd suggest starting small. A 2x4 tent is easier/cheaper to light than a 4x4. And even though you can legally have 5 plants, it may be beneficial to start out with one, especially if you don't garden or otherwise grow plants. Get your sea legs on a day trip before you ship out to sea for 4 months, so to speak. You can always expand into a perpetual grow. I mean, you can always shrink too--that's how some of us find relatively new gear for cheap on FB Marketplace. :D
Yeah, I ag
As someone who's still a relatively new grower as compared to some of the oldtimers here, I'd suggest starting small. A 2x4 tent is easier/cheaper to light than a 4x4. And even though you can legally have 5 plants, it may be beneficial to start out with one, especially if you don't garden or otherwise grow plants. Get your sea legs on a day trip before you ship out to sea for 4 months, so to speak. You can always expand into a perpetual grow. I mean, you can always shrink too--that's how some of us find relatively new gear for cheap on FB Marketplace. :D
Yeah, I agree. A smart first step is growing 1 plant from start to finish successfully. I shouldn’t run 2 seeds at once until I know I can do 1. Although, I can’t imagine me changing my mind about wanting to eventually run a separate veg tent and flower tent simultaneously. If I only buy one 2x4 tent to start with, I can already imagine future me scrambling to purchase that 2nd 2x4 tent setup as quick as possible, to not delay my next grow cycle…hahaaha
 

slacker140

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Yeah, I ag

Yeah, I agree. A smart first step is growing 1 plant from start to finish successfully. I shouldn’t run 2 seeds at once until I know I can do 1. Although, I can’t imagine me changing my mind about wanting to eventually run a separate veg tent and flower tent simultaneously. If I only buy one 2x4 tent to start with, I can already imagine future me scrambling to purchase that 2nd 2x4 tent setup as quick as possible, to not delay my next grow cycle…hahaaha
I disagree, I'd absolutely run a couple plants at once for your first time. Some plants are just duds. You don't want your only plant to be a dud or a hermie. You'll then get to see how all your plants requirements are slightly different from nutrients to watering frequency. Just don't make your growing area too big that you can't get to and see everything. Like don't do a 5x5 where you can't see if something is hermie in the back. So if your canopy is only 1 plant deep but 4 plants wide then you should be able to see everything and have some good plants and some not so good. If you grow like 4 or 5 then if you find a hermie or a bad plant it's no big deal to cull it and let the others consume it's space. Flip early and keep the plants smallish for your first time.
 
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Burton79

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Yeah, I ag

Yeah, I agree. A smart first step is growing 1 plant from start to finish successfully. I shouldn’t run 2 seeds at once until I know I can do 1. Although, I can’t imagine me changing my mind about wanting to eventually run a separate veg tent and flower tent simultaneously. If I only buy one 2x4 tent to start with, I can already imagine future me scrambling to purchase that 2nd 2x4 tent setup as quick as possible, to not delay my next grow cycle…hahaaha
Growing more than one seed your first grow gives you insurance in case a plant doesn't do well. Some plants may do better in your setup than others or be more resilient than others, even if they are from the same cross. You will also learn more by observing different plants and will get a better idea of how different genetics perform. Growing is a journey built on experience. Popping more than one seed will give you more experience. Just my 2 cents, I know others disagree. Do whatever is the most fun and don't feel like you have to hold yourself back because you are new at this.
 
That makes sense. May as well run two seeds in a 2x4 instead of 1, since the space is available and it’s good to have a backup, as well as be able to learn and compare. I do agree with that. Thanks!
 

ComfortCreator

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So far I have really enjoyed running Lemon Party S1's from CSI. I ran 4 S1 seeds last year in my outdoor setup. 3 leaned Indica, 1 leaned Sativa. All 4 had the craziest lemon terpene profiles i've ever smelled. I got Starburst yellow, Lemonhead Candy, Lemon Tea, Lemon Haze and many other smells. The indica dominate plants reminded me of Bubba Kush in her build/structure/bud formations. Not the strongest cannabis in the world, but very nice for joints/blunts and mellow smoking!

Now when it comes to the Sativa Dominate seed, she's a bit of a different story.

One of the best, if not my favorite sativa leaning plant i've ever put in the ground.
I didn't really start paying attention to her until she was getting covered in frost. In the past decade of growing it has mostly been Indica's or Indica dominate hybrids in my plot. This was an absolute treat of a plant to have in the garden. Although the lanky thin branches made for some issues with weight and snapping branches during light rains, but it was a worthy trade-off for getting to play around and experience such a frosty sativa plant.

She gave me serious haze/thai/hashplant vibes. When you crack the bag it smells like hot lemon tea. When you smoke the concentrates it's like Lemon with a very small hint of haze/hash. Another positive trait of this sativa leaner was not having to worry about budrot or mildew, she had all the breath-ability in the world and had no issues with aphids or ants like a few other plants in the garden did. Something about her natural defense I guess?

Where this selection REALLY shines though is her terp profile and SUPER mellow high. It's easily the most unique Lemon smell i've ever encountered in a plant. And every single person I give flower or rosin that came from this plant they end up saying its their favorite.

This females insane resin production paired with her amazing terp flavors makes me want to isolate and hunt down a selection specifically for creating concentrates. The bubble rosin and dry sift rosin I am creating with her material tastes so damn good.

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Pic1 is just a perfect example of why people grow outside! Unmatchable indoors, a perfect dense beast soaking up every last drop of sun. Great job
 

OrganicGorilla

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Hey guys. I know what T1000 is but what is Z1000? Is it Zkittlez x Trump? (Trumps Candy)?
Reason I ask is I just ordered Z1000 x Wedding Cake
 
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lassenoutdoor18

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Hey guys. I know what T1000 is but what is Z1000? Is it Zkittlez x Trump? (Trumps Candy)?
Reason I ask is I just ordered Z1000 x Wedding Cake
yeah Z-1000 is Trumps Candy.
There is a #7 and a #5 selection that has good reputation going around. In the Founding Fathers forum a fellah had said all 6 of his Z-1000 #7's x Obama Kush where keepers.

I think CSI rebranded trump1000 to T-1000 after too many people had superficial complaints in Cali/Oregon. Although he kept "trumps Candy" on his website for the 500$ pack so some of the older packs still have the old name. Speakeasyseedbank had packs from CSI last year listed as Z-1000 x Forbidden Fruit instead of Trumps candy as well but in parenthesis in strain information he called it trumps candy. I think it's just a marketing thing from the past and now hes using Z-1000 moving forward to avoid friction.

The same thing with his Pure OG Kush x Chem 91 freebies, the freebie packs are labeled just that on the packs but on his website it's listed as "Pure Bred." I think he just found a name for it after he already packaged up some of the freebies in the past.

Redbeard still keeps it named Trump, I'm surprised people took it politically when his seedbank is called "founding fathers genetics" and he has an Obama Kush. Actually wait no i'm not surprised... people will politicize anything
 
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OrganicGorilla

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yeah Z-1000 is Trumps Candy.
There is a #7 and a #5 selection that has good reputation going around.
I think CSI rebranded trump1000 to T-1000 after too many people had superficial complaints in Cali/Oregon. Although he kept "trumps Candy" on his website for the 500$ pack so it is a little confusing. Speakeasyseedbank had packs from CSI listed as Z-1000 x Forbidden Fruit instead of Trumps candy as well. I think it's just a marketing thing from the past and now hes using Z-1000 moving forward.

Where as Redbeard still keeps it named Trump, I'm surprised people took it politically when his seedbank is called "founding fathers genetics" and he has an Obama Kush. Actually wait no i'm not surprised... people will politicize anything
Very informative. Thank you
 

Mrsmokestacks

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yeah Z-1000 is Trumps Candy.
There is a #7 and a #5 selection that has good reputation going around. In the Founding Fathers forum a fellah had said all 6 of his Z-1000 #7's x Obama Kush where keepers.

I think CSI rebranded trump1000 to T-1000 after too many people had superficial complaints in Cali/Oregon. Although he kept "trumps Candy" on his website for the 500$ pack so some of the older packs still have the old name. Speakeasyseedbank had packs from CSI last year listed as Z-1000 x Forbidden Fruit instead of Trumps candy as well but in parenthesis in strain information he called it trumps candy. I think it's just a marketing thing from the past and now hes using Z-1000 moving forward to avoid friction.

The same thing with his Pure OG Kush x Chem 91 freebies, the freebie packs are labeled just that on the packs but on his website it's listed as "Pure Bred." I think he just found a name for it after he already packaged up some of the freebies in the past.

Redbeard still keeps it named Trump, I'm surprised people took it politically when his seedbank is called "founding fathers genetics" and he has an Obama Kush. Actually wait no i'm not surprised... people will politicize anything
Wasn’t his Pure kush x 91 freebie actually made from a select chem 91 s1? If so it’s gonna be different than pure kush x chem 91.
 

lassenoutdoor18

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Wasn’t his Pure kush x 91 freebie actually made from a select chem 91 s1? If so it’s gonna be different than pure kush x chem 91.
You are correct! Thanks for catching my mistake. After planting the seed I never paid attention to the Freebie packaging again. I just wrote Pure OG X chem91 on the identifying tab and tossed the package back in. And then later when I was searching through CSI's seeds he had offered and I saw Pure Bred. Figured it was the same thing just named. There is a definite labeling distinction between Pure Bred and the freebie. I need to go back into some posts here and on IG to edit the name to Chem 91 S1.

Looking through my freebies it seems he hit quite a few things with that S1-91. I got a trainwreck/Irene/GSC freebie mixed with it as well.
 
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Rurumo

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You are correct! Thanks for catching my mistake. After planting the seed I never paid attention to the Freebie packaging again. I just wrote Pure OG X chem91 on the identifying tab and tossed the package back in. I thought the freebie was the same as Pure Bred from the wesbite. There is a definite labeling distinction between Pure Bred and the freebie.

Looking through my freebies it seems he hit quite a few things with that S1 91. I got a trainwreck/Irene/GSC mix as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has multiple S1's that are better than the original cuts.
 
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