Athena Ag Nutrients

[Spindle818]

I have issues with companies that talk trash about other companies and then go and do the things they talk trash about.

According to them their products are not proven. They said it themselves.

"The reason companies give out samples is to use growers as guinea pigs, because their products aren’t proven."


Yes their products are overpriced.

"The status quo of nutrient companies is give out loads of samples, then make it up on selling over-priced products."

But they aren’t giving out new products to sample without testing which is what I think they were implying. Are the products really overpriced? I spent $550 last year when they were on sale and I’ve already had 6 harvests this year with it. And I still have enough to get me past December with ease. If I’m spending less than $100 per harvest that seems pretty reasonable

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

But they aren’t giving out new products to sample without testing which is what I think they were implying. Are the products really overpriced? I spent $550 last year when they were on sale and I’ve already had 6 harvests this year with it. And I still have enough to get me past December with ease. If I’m spending less than $100 per harvest that seems pretty reasonable

Yes that's extremely overpriced.

 

[bk78]

But they aren’t giving out new products to sample without testing which is what I think they were implying. Are the products really overpriced? I spent $550 last year when they were on sale and I’ve already had 6 harvests this year with it. And I still have enough to get me past December with ease. If I’m spending less than $100 per harvest that seems pretty reasonable

6 harvest this year already?

 

[rkymtnman]

AthenaAG doesn't send out samples. Says so right on their webpage.

you didn't provide the RIU code though, did you????

 

[PJ Diaz]

Thanks @HydroKid239

I never considered running Athena due to the cost, but I'm happy to give it a shot for free. I had no issue when I made a simple request today as suggested.

 

[PJ Diaz]

@twentyeight.threefive , I've found that many website statements are simply there to cover their ass, but reality in practice is often contrary to what is stated.

 

[rkymtnman]

not to get too nerdy but if we're going Greek, they should have went with Demeter, the goddess of the harvest.

Athena is the goddess of wisdom

 

[HydroKid239]

Thanks @HydroKid239

I never considered running Athena due to the cost, but I'm happy to give it a shot for free. I had no issue when I made a simple request today as suggested.

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That’s fkn awesome! It also looks like they have the same copy & paste reply for when they don’t shoot you down lol

 

[rkymtnman]

@twentyeight.threefive , I've found that many website statements are simply there to cover their ass, but reality in practice is often contrary to what is stated.

i went to whitehouse.com by mistake once...

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

@twentyeight.threefive , I've found that many website statements are simply there to cover their ass, but reality in practice is often contrary to what is stated.

Yeah I was just poking fun. The fact that they act like their line is so superior to others that they don’t have to send out samples while sending pallets full to everyone is laughable.

 

[HydroKid239]

not to get too nerdy but if we're going Greek, they should have went with Demeter, the goddess of the harvest.

Athena is the goddess of wisdom

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I’m hoping the wisdom was with them when they put their formula together.
I see their pro line shows 3.0ec from start to finish.. then says something along the lines of feed as needed. Some cultivars may differ in handling higher ec feeds.. etc

 

[rkymtnman]

I’m hoping the wisdom was with them when they put their formula together.
I see their pro line shows 3.0ec from start to finish.. then says something along the lines of feed as needed. Some cultivars may differ in handling higher ec feeds.. etc

i think lucas formula says it's good from S to F too but it's way too high EC IMO. they are in the business of sales after all

 

[PJ Diaz]

Yeah I was just poking fun. The fact that they act like their line is so superior to others that they don’t have to send out samples while sending pallets full to everyone is laughable.

Hey, whatever they gotta do to send me free shit.

 

[Spindle818]

6 harvest this year already?

I run 2 tents slightly off set in the same room so I count each tent as a harvest

 

[xtsho]

But they aren’t giving out new products to sample without testing which is what I think they were implying. Are the products really overpriced? I spent $550 last year when they were on sale and I’ve already had 6 harvests this year with it. And I still have enough to get me past December with ease. If I’m spending less than $100 per harvest that seems pretty reasonable

$100 in nutrients will last me a few years. That's with a 2x4 veg tent, a 4x4 flower tent and 3 harvests. I'm fiddling around outdoors in the summer with organics so I don't use any purchased nutrients for that grow.

Their core is basically just calcium nitrate with a few micronutrients and is listed on their site at $200 for 25 lbs. I can get a 50 pound bag of calcium nitrate for $40 and a 25 pound bag of Jacks 5-12-26 for $50 and have a complete fertilizer. That's less than half the price to make 50 lbs of a nutrient mix. If you want to add some more P/K at flower then a 5 lb bag of MKP for $30 and it's still much cheaper and you'll have enough calcium nitrate and MKP to mix with another $40 bag of the 5-12-26. So yes their nutrients are expensive. I won't call them overpriced because they're still cheaper than most cannabis specific nutrients and if they can get the prices they charge then why shouldn't they charge what they do. I have nothing against businesses making money.

I just think what they have on their samples page and what they do themselves is at odds. They chastise other companies for doing the same things they are doing.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

$100 in nutrients will last me a few years. That's with a 2x4 veg tent, a 4x4 flower tent and 3 harvests. I'm fiddling around outdoors in the summer with organics so I don't use any purchased nutrients for that grow.

Their core is basically just calcium nitrate with a few micronutrients and is listed on their site at $200 for 25 lbs. I can get a 50 pound bag of calcium nitrate for $40 and a 25 pound bag of Jacks 5-12-26 for $50 and have a complete fertilizer. That's less than half the price to make 50 lbs of a nutrient mix. If you want to add some more P/K at flower then a 5 lb bag of MKP for $30 and it's still much cheaper and you'll have enough calcium nitrate and MKP to mix with another $40 bag of the 5-12-26. So yes their nutrients are expensive. I won't call them overpriced because they're still cheaper than most cannabis specific nutrients and if they can get the prices they charge then why shouldn't they charge what they do. I have nothing against businesses making money.

I just think what they have on their samples page and what they do themselves is at odds. They chastise other companies for doing the same things they are doing.

The Athena they got is cheaper,

 

[xtsho]

The Athena they got is cheaper,

Free is as cheap as it gets. I wonder if they'll be return customers once they use it up.

 

[Spindle818]

$100 in nutrients will last me a few years. That's with a 2x4 veg tent, a 4x4 flower tent and 3 harvests. I'm fiddling around outdoors in the summer with organics so I don't use any purchased nutrients for that grow.

Their core is basically just calcium nitrate with a few micronutrients and is listed on their site at $200 for 25 lbs. I can get a 50 pound bag of calcium nitrate for $40 and a 25 pound bag of Jacks 5-12-26 for $50 and have a complete fertilizer. That's less than half the price to make 50 lbs of a nutrient mix. If you want to add some more P/K at flower then a 5 lb bag of MKP for $30 and it's still much cheaper and you'll have enough calcium nitrate and MKP to mix with another $40 bag of the 5-12-26. So yes their nutrients are expensive. I won't call them overpriced because they're still cheaper than most cannabis specific nutrients and if they can get the prices they charge then why shouldn't they charge what they do. I have nothing against businesses making money.

I just think what they have on their samples page and what they do themselves is at odds. They chastise other companies for doing the same things they are doing.

The stores here sell the 25 lb bags for $125, but I wait until they have the 50% off sale. Peters is definitely cheaper and is an awesome product as well. My only problem with peters is that I have burned my plants before when trying steer towards vegetative growth

 

[waterproof808]

Have talk to them before, multiple times multiple people, told them my exact setup. Literally all told me to feed all the time and stack up the ec up to 6.0-8.0. And apparently as long as ph is good then no problem. Delusional shit. Gave up on it, stopped using.

Sometimes you gotta just think for yourself and observe what your plants need. 6.0 EC is ridiculous.

 

[xtsho]

The stores here sell the 25 lb bags for $125, but I wait until they have the 50% off sale. Peters is definitely cheaper and is an awesome product as well. My only problem with peters is that I have burned my plants before when trying steer towards vegetative growth

Fertilizer prices are all over the map depending on location. Some places shipping is more than the product. All a grower can do is get what's available and provides what the plant needs. Brand is not very important. Many put too much importance on brand or think a brand is some special elixir. All a fertilizer needs to do is provide macro and micronutrients. Most of those are coming from the same factories. Different brands just mix them differently.