TRUMP CONVICTED

DIY-HP-LED

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Ah, now I get why MTG was so protective of this man. She's thirsty.
She will be busy visiting all those assholes in the crowbar hotel and can add him to a growing list, maybe he can join the J6 choir as a tenor... Trouble is he will be going to Leavenworth Kansas for an extended stay.

This landed like a bomb in the middle of the Trump's documents case, and it will be interesting, considering equality under the law an all...
 

Fogdog

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Have ya noticed the difference, Jack? Does it piss ya off? Does it piss off every patriot who ever held a security clearance? How does this compare with Trump's case in terms of severity and the amount of evidence? Is this guy getting released after booking so he can go back home until trial? Think Trump might draw the same DC judge who sentences this guy when he pleads guilty? Think Trump will be released after arraignment, or will he be treated like this poor fool who was at the very bottom of the government?

This case will put a spotlight on Trump's similar case and comparisons are already being made about equality under the law and other such horseshit. This case could force Jack and the Judge's hand, Jack to indict and the Judge to jail Trump upon arraignment. Technically it shouldn't affect Jack's decision, but he's only human and reads the papers and knows exactly what is happening and will happen to that stupid kid who ruined his own life for less than what Trump did and with less evidence and witnesses against him. For him justice was swift, and it will be sure, this was very sensitive stuff, but not as sensitive as what Trump stole.

If you read what a member of the chat group that Teixeira led, said about what happened and how it happened, I've got no sympathy for the man. He had a conspiracy theory based on "bad USA" and was trying to influence the people in that group to accept his ideology without question. That he got mad when some people showed more interest in virtual weapons and video games indicates to me he's a wannabe cult leader without a clue to build a following. I'd prefer the bad government he hates shows just how bad they can be to traitors.

I've kind of lost the ability to sympathize with people who expose our country to the danger of fascism due to a false belief that the current government is worse.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
If you read what a member of the chat group that Teixeira led, said about what happened and how it happened, I've got no sympathy for the man. He had a conspiracy theory based on "bad USA" and was trying to influence the people in that group to accept his ideology without question. That he got mad when some people showed more interest in virtual weapons and video games indicates to me he's a wannabe cult leader without a clue to build a following. I'd prefer the bad government he hates shows just how bad they can be to traitors.

I've kind of lost the ability to sympathize with people who expose our country to the danger of fascism due to a false belief that the current government is worse.
narcascism
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If you read what a member of the chat group that Teixeira led, said about what happened and how it happened, I've got no sympathy for the man. He had a conspiracy theory based on "bad USA" and was trying to influence the people in that group to accept his ideology without question. That he got mad when some people showed more interest in virtual weapons and video games indicates to me he's a wannabe cult leader without a clue to build a following. I'd prefer the bad government he hates shows just how bad they can be to traitors.

I've kind of lost the ability to sympathize with people who expose our country to the danger of fascism due to a false belief that the current government is worse.
Read the article I posted on the war thread about narcissism by Tom Nichols. Young and stupid is the only reason to cut him any slack. It could be similar to Reality Winner or other such cases, in terms of sentencing but the damage this guy did was immense and that is an aggravating factor.

Now that he is caught, the focus shifts to how does his crime and treatment compare to Trump's. This all was very bad timing for Trump and is a major story.
 

cannabineer

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Read the article I posted on the war thread about narcissism by Tom Nichols. Young and stupid is the only reason to cut him any slack. It could be similar to Reality Winner or other such cases, in terms of sentencing but the damage this guy did was immense and that is an aggravating factor.

Now that he is caught, the focus shifts to how does his crime and treatment compare to Trump's. This all was very bad timing for Trump and is a major story.
Do you have external confirmation (w/link) on “the focus shifts”?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I guess news that Jack is going after his stop the steal grift cash has got Donald going off the deep end, again... Going after his money should be like shoving a red-hot poker up Donald's asshole, he will freak out, howl and dance.


Trump THREATENS Jack Smith After NEW Findings

6,500 views Apr 14, 2023
Donald Trump posted new attacks on Special Counsel Jack Smith following new reports that Jack has been focused on Trump showing classified maps with sensitive intelligence information to donors. MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Do you have external confirmation (w/link) on “the focus shifts”?
The media and pundits have noticed and if I can find a TV link or two, I'll post it. It is now a counterintelligence investigation and might be for a while before much comes out, other than court stuff, we won't know much about the case itself. It will highlight equality under the law and is like an elephant in the room, happening on parallel tracks in the justice system. The crimes are remarkable similar, one committed by someone at the very bottom of the federal government and another more serious crime by the commander and chief of the military at the apex of government.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
The media and pundits have noticed and if I can find a TV link or two, I'll post it. It is now a counterintelligence investigation and might be for a while before much comes out, other than court stuff, we won't know much about the case itself. It will highlight equality under the law and is like an elephant in the room, happening on parallel tracks in the justice system. The crimes are remarkable similar, one committed by someone at the very bottom of the federal government and another more serious crime by the commander and chief of the military at the apex of government.
Something toothier please than MTN, which is to politics what Popular Mechanics is to tech.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Jack Smith expands criminal probe, investigates Trump's wire fraud by fundraising off the big lie

7,377 views Apr 14, 2023 #TeamJustice
Special Counsel Jack Smith has not only been investigating the crimes of former president Donald Trump quickly and aggressively, but he's not shy about expanding the scope of the the criminal probe. As The Washington Post reported, " Special counsel focuses on Trump fundraising off false election claims."

This video discusses the federal crime of wire fraud (18 US CODE SECTION 1343) and why it applies to Trump's emails seeking money by making false election fraud claims.

This video also touches on the friction between endless Department of Justice investigations and the need for the DOJ to take it's first overt law enforcement act of indicting Trump for at lease some of his crimes.
 

cannabineer

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Have a look online, why do you expect me too? I'm not presenting a paper for peer review in a journal! I watch TV too and that not easy to document.

If I said I just scratched my nuts, do I need to post a photo?
“The focus shifts” means the general media focus. That is something that deserves substantiation from say WaPo or MSNBC. My worry is that this is a grandiose and somewhat cantilevered way of overstating “My opinion shifts”. Rescue me from that sour and ungenerous suspicion.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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“The focus shifts” means the general media focus. That is something that deserves substantiation. My worry is that this is a grandiose and somewhat cantilevered way of overstating “My opinion shifts”. Rescue me from that sour suspicion.
Alas the world and the people in it are imperfect, nor are humans completely consistent in what they do, as is their right as humans. The shift in focus I spoke of was mentioned by pundits on TV and should come more into play when there is some action on Trump's documents case as this one works its way through the justice machine on a parallel course. As I stated, this is illustrative of equality under the law and a long-standing issue as far as Trump is concerned, he was at the very top and this guy was at the very bottom of the government and will be a yardstick for justice when they finally do bust Trump's ass for the MAR shit. Hence the focus will develop with the cases.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Alas the world and the people in it are imperfect, nor are humans completely consistent in what they do, as is their right as humans. The shift in focus I spoke of was mentioned by pundits on TV and should come more into play when there is some action on Trump's documents case as this one works its way through the justice machine on a parallel course. As I stated, this is illustrative of equality under the law and a long-standing issue as far as Trump is concerned, he was at the very top and this guy was at the very bottom of the government and will be a yardstick for justice when they finally do bust Trump's ass for the MAR shit. Hence the focus will develop with the cases.
Pundits on TV; got it
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Pundits on TV; got it
It is opinion and opinion makers we are talking about here, the media does not cover nonevents and when events happen, they are there with opinion and that opinion on Trumps documents case will include the fate of this air force cypher. It's a no brainer.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This whole airman story, smells.....

Copy cat crime? Or a misdirection?

Maybe both... :bigjoint:
Dunno, too much damage done and too many eyes on the case, we will see what he says under FBI counterintelligence interrogation, that pretty uniform comes with some civil liberties drawbacks and military justice. He will probably fess up and come clean is my guess, case closed, except for the damage assessment and other loose ends on that server, like who copied it and sent it onward to the world and why, it was in a private place on a discord game server among a small group it seems.
 
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