Dookies pre98 vs farmerjoes matt berger bubba kush

1littlesoldier1

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I will keep posting these as long as I see new posts about bubba kush. These were circ@ 2012. Hard hitting chocolate coffee coat your tongue mmm thats hard to describe unless you have had it.

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Thanks for sharing man, not sure yet if your version of bubba was closer to the pre98 or the matt burger. I guess time will tell. Have you ever had the death bubba? Ive been looking for her, curious to compare her to the original bubba
 

1littlesoldier1

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I was under the impression Matt Berger was the one who found what he called bubba, a short indica. Then either bubba was crossed on purpose or accidental to make bubba kush? Was he not the founding father? In the passed all that was talked about was pre 98 as far as the first bubba. Lots of S1s out there bomb threat, katsu. Etc.
I just picked up the Matt’s cut last fall.
Just poping some S1s and a few fem crosses I did with it. MTF, TK, ECSD res etc.

She’s just finishing a F cross of purple Hindu kush BX4 AKBB chucked 4 males almost done. That should be interesting x.

Here are a couple MTF (AKBB) F1, Matt clones and an s1 in compost.
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Lots of talk about the original bubba, no one really knows if matt burger was the founder as too manny people try to take credit for things that are not theirs in this greedy world. Ever noticed most crazy strains are apparently bag seeds? I grew seeds most my life and I am now retired as I barely found anything interesting with them. If you have ever grown bag seeds like I have you would know that its the last thing you wanna be growing. male flowers growing on female plants and too many instabilities. Thats a little why I have tried to stay away from female seeds but breeders are not what they used to be in terms of stability. They just go with the cash flow and its sad..
 

tkufoS

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Thanks for sharing man, not sure yet if your version of bubba was closer to the pre98 or the matt burger. I guess time will tell. Have you ever had the death bubba? Ive been looking for her, curious to compare her to the original bubba
Heard of yes. But try death bubba. No :( . I thought I had kush. A Cali head informed me that I actually had " bubba kush ". He seemed disappointed that I didn't know what a special strain I really had. This was @ 2012
 

conor c

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Lots of talk about the original bubba, no one really knows if matt burger was the founder as too manny people try to take credit for things that are not theirs in this greedy world. Ever noticed most crazy strains are apparently bag seeds? I grew seeds most my life and I am now retired as I barely found anything interesting with them. If you have ever grown bag seeds like I have you would know that its the last thing you wanna be growing. male flowers growing on female plants and too many instabilities. Thats a little why I have tried to stay away from female seeds but breeders are not what they used to be in terms of stability. They just go with the cash flow and its sad..
Thats why you go with those who dont or barely entertain hype and agreed its luck and numbers with bagseed some are belters the majority are crap ime mate
 

1littlesoldier1

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do they have different or similar smells at this stage?
different and the bubba kush doesnt like my warm cliate. Its 80 degrees in my room and everything is banging except for the bubba kush. I believe I would have to bring the temps down to 72-75 tops for the buds to swell properly. Right now the pre98 is what im looking for in terms of bud growth but not in terms of smell. The bubba kush has more of that real bubba kush/coffee smell(but faint) while the pre98 barely smells anything. Veg growth the bubba kush wins but like i said, not the bud growth(maybe at lower temps like i said). Pre98 barely has any trichomes while the bubba has a bit more but they are both not good for hash making.
all in all, the smoke report will determine which one im keeping
 

1littlesoldier1

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Here it is guys..week 10
bubba kush (matt burger)
told myself I would skip the water the day before harvest so i wouldnt have to pick up heavy 12 inch pots but my dehumidifier was on 24/7 so the bubba kush dried up quicker than I thought.
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fortunatly for you guys I had made clones and they didnt dry up like the mother so heres the beauty
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1littlesoldier1

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So far I have tested a sample from both at day 63. Bubba kush has a decent coffee taste but not strong enough for my likes. Hopefully 70 days will do it. As for the pre98 bubba, I had no taste at all on her so she might need a good cure for the terps to come out but I was expecting a little something at least. I will post back my smoke report after I taste them both after a good 2 weeks dry/cure.
 

1littlesoldier1

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So after smoking both strains, i will not be keeping any one of them. the pre98 has barely any taste and it doesnt taste anything like a kush. the bubba was not bad but lacking in the terpenes departement. I wonder if this supposed matt burger cut is just a watered down s1 and not the original but cant say for sure.
 

GWilliamsCannabis

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So after smoking both strains, i will not be keeping any one of them. the pre98 has barely any taste and it doesnt taste anything like a kush. the bubba was not bad but lacking in the terpenes departement. I wonder if this supposed matt burger cut is just a watered down s1 and not the original but cant say for sure.
I'll be honest I'm growing Pre98 Bubba S1 (Katsu) and out of 6 strains she's been my least impressive....first she didn't stretch when I topped her so I've got 2 colas growing right next to eachother off the main stem....I topped at another location and everything was fine; weird....but she's been very picky with her water regimine compared to my other plants and has been a sloooooow grower for sure.....but she has a really nice green coloring to her flowers and now is developing frost....she smells chocolatey but like you said it's a very weak smell which I assume will lead to weak flavor.

The pre98 Bubba I smoked like 5 years ago was some of my favorite bud ever....shit tasted chocolatey; earthy; coffee and hashy....shit was super strong potency put me to sleep everytime I'd smoke her.....I can't possibly see this being that way; but I suppose I could be wrong
 
I was under the impression Matt Berger was the one who found what he called bubba, a short indica. Then either bubba was crossed on purpose or accidental to make bubba kush? Was he not the founding father? In the passed all that was talked about was pre 98 as far as the first bubba. Lots of S1s out there bomb threat, katsu. Etc.
I just picked up the Matt’s cut last fall.
Just poping some S1s and a few fem crosses I did with it. MTF, TK, ECSD res etc.

She’s just finishing a F cross of purple Hindu kush BX4 AKBB chucked 4 males almost done. That should be interesting x.

Here are a couple MTF (AKBB) F1, Matt clones and an s1 in compost.
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Matt would like everyone to have that impression. But fact is Bubba type plants were around the west coast way before the matt bullshit story began.
Many oldies are convinced that bubba was very similar to ( decended from) the old Oregon Afghani clone. And thats still kickin around the valley here.

Who else remembers bubba before it had the Pre added to differentiate it from its S1s? Before the forums or LEDs

When grown fullterm with a low N organic load real bubba is very mocha.
And so is its predecessor Oregon Afghani.
 

Bodyne

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Lot of strains they trying to make a comeback, but there’s a reason they have floated away. Bubba, green crack, blue dream, etc.
 

GWilliamsCannabis

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Lot of strains they trying to make a comeback, but there’s a reason they have floated away. Bubba, green crack, blue dream, etc.
Blue dream always has staying power imo though simply because it actually has blueberry flavors (in the good cuts) and a really nice high along with good bag appeal and yeikds.

It gets hated on because of the tremendous amount of bullshit cuts out there and recreations from so many different places.....it reminds me of white widow.....ppl still love smoking her but finding the good ones can be a problem.
 
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