Setting up dtw coco 2.5x5 tent

medidedicated

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The microbe lift bmc I just realized watching it it gets chunks that some dont dissolve a large flake. I clean a 1ml seringe the outer side with paper towel but some left behind in tip of seringe. Even if its not that should I wisk it in a bucket with some water before adding to reservoir?

I did drop by drop and watched it disperse to some degree a cloud that some of it sinks some of it floats on surface of water. Just doesnt feel like it gets all the water like youd think. To where each drop of water has thousands of bti surely to kill micro sized larvae.

I add .3ml per 55 gallons its double the amount since I noticed this and dont feel right just adding a few drops that most of it is a flake that falls to bottom and not dissolve. Or the clouds that float and take a while to settle and mix.

Now I add it drop for drop with time in between. Same with the clorox to make sure the concentrations low enough not to kill them.

Im having results like I just read one say today, its working good but only up to 98% of them. The traps get the rest. I open tent and scare them into the fly trap is fun to watch.

I set out a fresh one when I notice higher numbers they must be starving and smell the fresh trap and fly to it but the smell wears quick so only works for a day or two. Thats how I save on traps just use as needed. My cabinet is like a war zone all dead gnats on old traps. H miles bugs deindled in numbers.

I love the H miles bugs they really helped where it was the worst. Id buy them or learn to perpetuate them myself and save money. They hunt the fuckers down.
 
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medidedicated

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So I realized even if I under pack the floraflex pot 1 gallon, the surface raises pretty close to the lip compared to now. So the roots are pushing the block of coco up quite literally 2”. It still works I think the much longer dryback vs none is allowing for water to flow through vs puddle up real bad and overfill.
 

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Have to put this here too because I rambled about it here too. The effect of pruning to grow fatter buds that mold and plenty more less dominant growth. Finishes early 9-10wks. This was all I did and did it to a couple new clones ready for it at wk 2-3 somewhere in between is good. This was 2 wks and 2 days in flower.
 

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medidedicated

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Shit got a gnat outbreak in one pot. Im starting to see where they must be coming from its obvious how theyre all around one plant of two in the tent. Im reading the bmc stuff can break down as fast as 24hrs and upon search I cant find why, temps? Ec content? Said its not the clorene but idk.

Gonna just start adding daily I got a lot to lose so I aint got a choice. Its safe and a quick search says yes. It clealy works just some out breaks happen.
 

medidedicated

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Fuck me the clorox aint doing it or I need to add daily Im over it. Just turn n burn and deep clean monthly. Seems to be the faster I go through it the less this is a problem. I went most my growing days with this not an issue same temps really.
 

medidedicated

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Degrades with age and heat. So idk how long its good for then, no date of manufacture or timeline. Hope a year is good. Starting to wonder if I need clorene at all if I just refresh water frequently enough. Seems to go bad no matter what unless its closer to 68F.

Should just get better at whipping up new solution every 2-3 days it sucks but every other grower has their sucks to be you moments.
 

medidedicated

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Blah it went bad overnight. Only took 10 mins to scrub rez and pur pumps in bucket with wave maker on and 200ppm clorene bleach. Turning on each pump periodically. Same what I said but need to deep clean more often or else its just too much for the clorene to keep clean.
 

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It was pretty slimey and been like 3 wks maybe almost 4 so due anyway. I just got mad when it went bad in 3-5 days but noticed I dont exactly need to deep clean when that happens, just swap all water. Will see. Maybe if I add clorox daily it will help.
 

Drop That Sound

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Yeah there is no simple way to measure the chlorine levels in the res (same with pool shock really), so you just have to go based off the calculators to get the correct dose. Its somewhat of a guessing game, like using c02 with a timer\regulator instead of a controller..

The bleach dissipates fairly rapidly, so don't expect it to last more than a few days. Especially in a more active system with more aeration in the res, like RDWC, etc. You should be adding another dose every so often (2 days at the longest) to maintain the 3-5 PPMs, give or take. After 3 days its all gone, even standing still without pumps agitating the water. They do make fancy chlorine meters, but I still doubt they are affordable, but haven't looked into it much. Pool testing strips and whatnot. I could always smell it good enough to know when another dose was needed. I never had to add all that much anyway because the water I use already has chloramines, and stays fresh for weeks as is. I pretty much quit using bleach or pool shock alltogether, but mostly because my solutions stay cool enough most the year, and I use good water sources.

There was one res that gave me lots of problems no matter what I did once, but I'm pretty sure it was actually because the plastic started to degrade (it was an old barrel that always had a weird smell no matter how much I scrubbed) and figure it was able to act like a sponge, and also leach the contaminants back out. Swapping to a new container and all was good.
 

medidedicated

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Water temp 76F and its cooler than its been. Yea just gonna treat the clorox like I need abundance of it because I do. So Im adding it daily so far its alright but its going bad quick. I usually smell the clorene it burns a little. My basement rez is fine no clorox only once in begining. For 7 days.

Its like 65F in that rez I think just guessing. It would be better if I had the grow down there but it gives a host of new issues. Jusr a sucks to be you moment lots of us have. No way around it. At least Im pretty sure I found out how to chop at not just 10wks but 9 wks growing this pheno.

So that means an extra chop a year so I can just take a grocation. Growing isnt a breeze for me. Maybe soil would do better but I cant grow like this I get lockout or deficiencys or watering issues too.
 

medidedicated

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Its not the bmc either because my basement rez is fine. No ph rise either so thats a indicator I use for organic activity.
 

medidedicated

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Its crystal clear until I add the maxibloom idk what the deal is it used to be crisp clear but even my basement rez gets a little blurry looking though and making me think its bad the next day as it already starts to get a glow like Ive been definitively seeing before I discard the water usually ph high.

Just keeping a strong eye on it. The bmc Im adding daily too as it may expire in 24hrs too. The veg res in basement just stays muddy but when low it gets more clear again but not cloudy amd slimy and off smelling, usually its burning with clorene.
 

medidedicated

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Heck frick yes. Just realized what the big deal would be. If I have an extra chop thats oof did the math real quick. Id be crazy planning for this but if I get same results in copycat tent then copy that homie roger that. If I can get done 8 wks I could really make this work.

Crazy the compound effect. Its not if I can chop 1 wk earlier than usual but 2 that makes it from 5.7 to 6.5 chops a year. That would make a year and half worth of stuff then I could do one learning run with new strains for .3gs a day worth of veriety and 1g a day of base product to stay lit.

I could perpetuate the last round best I can and only take up a month into the new grow year to chop and learn more to maybe make that the base product next time. Have .58gs a day worth of veriety which should cover some of itself as I grow it and then Im out. Its just working.
 

medidedicated

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Thats the limit though as hash will only be good for like a year maybe yr and half tops. I can try to do things differently so Im only going a certain amount of time that the product will be good for.
 

medidedicated

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Crap yea it can go bad so I think the better thing to do is grow half the year and off the other half so its always fresh. I just started this season and winter so just on time to make this happen. Holy cow yea that fit right into place as the best option. Take advantage of the fact veg isnt hard its the flowering and the flower room thats a hassle.
 

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Shit got a gnat outbreak in one pot. Im starting to see where they must be coming from its obvious how theyre all around one plant of two in the tent. Im reading the bmc stuff can break down as fast as 24hrs and upon search I cant find why, temps? Ec content? Said its not the clorene but idk.

Gonna just start adding daily I got a lot to lose so I aint got a choice. Its safe and a quick search says yes. It clealy works just some out breaks happen.
Its not the bmc either because my basement rez is fine. No ph rise either so thats a indicator I use for organic activity.
Wait, are you using both Chlorine and BMC Microbe lift together?
 

medidedicated

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A quick search says bti doesnt get killed with chlorene per manufacture. I have a bad gnat issue enough to kill plants but also a bacteria bloom issue as fast as 24hrs. My veg res in basement with cooler temps dont have this issue.
 
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