Thanks stinkbud you help clarify some things for me!!
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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DIRTHAWKER
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Ive been searching the thread and i cant find your post stink about how you run the veg formula in the flower room.
I have my next batch ready to go into flower (timewise), but beacuse i threw out my sour diesel ..i now have plants in veg ranging from 16 inches to 3 inches....... i was gonna put the smaller ones in the flower room under the HPS so they will stretch for 5 days or so but keep the veg formula running. and also switch the veg lights to 12 and 12 so the bigger veg plants still begin the flowering process.....
I figure that after a few days the smaller plants will have stretched enough, and then i can add the taller plants.
Is this too much? or should i just throw them all in and tie the bigger ones back ???
also how long did you say you kept the veg formula running in the flower room?
you can see my dilema...... oh what to do? theres about 5 that are tiny still. the bigggest is my pre98 bubba , then cheese, redgrape and blueberry and sfv og kush.
I have my next batch ready to go into flower (timewise), but beacuse i threw out my sour diesel ..i now have plants in veg ranging from 16 inches to 3 inches....... i was gonna put the smaller ones in the flower room under the HPS so they will stretch for 5 days or so but keep the veg formula running. and also switch the veg lights to 12 and 12 so the bigger veg plants still begin the flowering process.....
I figure that after a few days the smaller plants will have stretched enough, and then i can add the taller plants.
Is this too much? or should i just throw them all in and tie the bigger ones back ???
also how long did you say you kept the veg formula running in the flower room?
you can see my dilema...... oh what to do? theres about 5 that are tiny still. the bigggest is my pre98 bubba , then cheese, redgrape and blueberry and sfv og kush.
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Delusional
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Anyone have a problem with the 2" net pots falling through into the rails?
I don't have it up and running yet but I can already see how this may be a problem.
I don't have it up and running yet but I can already see how this may be a problem.
DIRTHAWKER
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delusional... the 2 inch net pot have a lip on them..ive never heard anyone have a problem with them falling through, as long as you cut the hole 2 inches.
Crz...yea he uses the 396 pump for all.
Crz...yea he uses the 396 pump for all.
Delusional
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uh.... mine dont. i have the 2" GH net pots I bought at my local hydro shop. none had "lips"
they fit snug, but dont take much pressure to push thru.
guess ill just have to order some from another source. i was surprised they didnt have a lip on them.... kinda stupid
they fit snug, but dont take much pressure to push thru.
guess ill just have to order some from another source. i was surprised they didnt have a lip on them.... kinda stupid
thinkhigh
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Stinkbud says to keep the water around 72 degrees. Hell it's not even summer yet and my water is getting up to around 80 degrees so far. It will get a lot warmer when june, july and august get here. I think the easiest way to remedy the problem is to add a AC unit (window unit style). Probably a 9000 BTU unit... I'm guessing.
thinkhigh
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After 3 weeks the best 14 plants move to the veg system.
I use a dual container aeroponic system. The roots grow straight down which makes the plants easy to transfer to the flower room when the time comes.
The plants are under a 250W MH light set to 18/6.
Again, all my systems are on the same timer set to 1 minute on and 5 minutes off. This gives the roots the maximum amount of Oxygen without letting them dry out.
I run this nutrient formula for vegetative growth:
Botanicare Nutrients:
126ML Cal-Mag Plus
180ML Liquid Karma
540ML Pure Bend Pro Vegetative Formula
I start at 1500 PPM and bring it up to 2000 PPM by the second week of veg. I change the nutrients every 3 weeks with each new crop.
I adjust my PH to 5.8
Stay tuned for more...
DIRTHAWKER
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I think you misunderstood my question.
I know all about the veg and clone system, and the nutrient mix.
My question was in regards to something stink said about how he has been running the veg formula inside the flower room.
I just didnt know how long he ran it for? (A WEEK ) (2 WEEKS)
I remember you saying stink it made your plants stay really green"
the reason i was asking was beacuse from my picture above you can see there is a big difference in sizes of these veg plants..
so i was gonna run the smaller ones for 4-5 days in the flower room using the veg mix.
sorry if its kinda hard to understand what im sayin.
I know all about the veg and clone system, and the nutrient mix.
My question was in regards to something stink said about how he has been running the veg formula inside the flower room.
I just didnt know how long he ran it for? (A WEEK ) (2 WEEKS)
I remember you saying stink it made your plants stay really green"
the reason i was asking was beacuse from my picture above you can see there is a big difference in sizes of these veg plants..
so i was gonna run the smaller ones for 4-5 days in the flower room using the veg mix.
sorry if its kinda hard to understand what im sayin.
hehehemann
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I had this problem too. Here is how I solved mine.
I bought the insulating rolls you can get at Lowes/Home Depot. It looks like foil over bubble wrap. I used this to cover the entire reservoir tub, top, bottom and sides, cutting the holes required to allow water drainage back into the unit.
Next up was to do the DIY cool tube (search for the hurricane glass method) This may be the secret as it cools the entire room a lot. I had my exhaust exit into a bucket of water so no heat goes back into the room. (The grow is inside the closet)
I also use frozen 2 liter bottles full of water that go into the reservoir. This brings down water temps considerably.
All in all the temps in the closet went from 87 to 72 and water temps dont go above 70. Just replace the frozen bottles twice a day and its been great.
andyman
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some have a lip more than other brands. some brands lip is only 2" total so they fall threw. I had to learn the hard way and the cheap ones fell threw. should have 1/16 to 1/8 inch lip on the better ones
thinkhigh
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Thanks hehehemann. I will give it a try. But when summer gets here I will have to do something different. I'm usually gone for my job a day or two a week. It makes it hard to add frozen water bottles to the res. twice a day. But it could work for now. Thanks again. +rep
Delusional
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yeah i ordered some replacements and bitched at my local hydro shop and told them to start stocking the better ones. lol
he wasnt going to take them back..... I basically told him he either takes back the twenty dollars worth of cups and starts stocking the better ones or I'll just have to do all my shopping online for now on. I spend a LOT at my local shop simply because I am impatient. I'm fairly certain he knows this. He broke down and refunded me, told me "honestly I've been trying to get rid of those fucking things", ordered the new ones, and gave me a free bottle of sweet. Pretty cool guy, I had previously thought he was a dick..... lol
he wasnt going to take them back..... I basically told him he either takes back the twenty dollars worth of cups and starts stocking the better ones or I'll just have to do all my shopping online for now on. I spend a LOT at my local shop simply because I am impatient. I'm fairly certain he knows this. He broke down and refunded me, told me "honestly I've been trying to get rid of those fucking things", ordered the new ones, and gave me a free bottle of sweet. Pretty cool guy, I had previously thought he was a dick..... lol
hehehemann
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Here is my closet with the DIY stuff to keep temps down. The 2 liter bottles you see are my DIY CO2 boosters 
Picasso345
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Is this the post you were thinking of?
https://www.rollitup.org/2257688-post4444.html
It's a combination of a few things.
One is the strains I'm running. All the strains I'm running now are huge producers. I got rid of the lanky sativas and I'm sticking with mixed breeds with mostly Indica in them.
The Indicas finish faster and the buds are very dense and heavy. It's taken me a long time to narrow my quiver down to just 4 strains that I like.
All 4 strains have basically the same nutrient requirements(1700PPM). Having my strain's PPM dialed in really helped with the final harvest.
Another factor kind of happened by accident. I had to put my veg unit in with my cloner on 24/0. The clones didn't get that much bigger but they take longer to start flowering.
That extra few days to start flowering really adds quite a bit more bud sites to the plant. More sites equal more buds!
The plants also end up taller because they stretch for a few more days.
It's not unreasonable to expect 1.5-2oz per plant with my system if you have a good strain. I bet if someone grew Big Bud or Chronic they could pull down 3oz per plant easy.
I've pulled 3oz. from one Blueberry plant but that the best I've done so far (using my system).
Another thing I've changed is my nutrient mix for the first 2 weeks of flowering. I've been running my veg mix with Sweet instead of the normal flowering recipe I use.
This gives the plants a higher Nitrogen level than the normal flowering mix. The plants love it!
The plants grow faster, bigger and stay dark green during the whole stretch. As soon as the plants are done stretching and set flowers I change the res to my normal flowering recipe.
I also have a dehumidifier now. I think keeping the humidity at the perfect level really helps the plants grow healthy.
You want the plants to be able to transpire moisture into the air. This causes more water and nutrients to be taken in by the plant. If the air is too humid the plants close up their stomata and basically slow their breathing until the conditions are right.
My flowering plants use 1-2 gallons of water a day. Most of that water ends up in my dehumidifier.
So all these changes I've made have been a factor in my increased harvest.
You will notice I labeled my plans and instructions version 1.1, Soon you will see that number change....
Don't get your hopes up too soon though!
thinkhigh
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Sweet man. I like what you have done.Here is my closet with the DIY stuff to keep temps down. The 2 liter bottles you see are my DIY CO2 boosters
Picasso345
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Beautiful set-up!Here is my closet with the DIY stuff to keep temps down. The 2 liter bottles you see are my DIY CO2 boosters
DIRTHAWKER
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That was it picasso!!! thanks bro. It sounds like he just ads sweet to the veg mix... for 2 weeks. i think this will work to get my smaller ones up to the right height.
car washer
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I got sick of the frozen water bottle routine. I am in a tent with Co2 and with ambient air at 86 degrees the water bottle routine became stressful. I now have a Pacific Coast 1/13th HP Chiller for one 10 gallon rez (i believe it could handle an 18 gallon too). It was $312 but it makes for much better sleep. Rez is set at 67 and never goes above 68 or below 66.