Your input on a whole Family puffing.

[Babs34]

Camo, if your mom has MS, you did say you "think" she has it.....that part didn't make sense to me. Well, if she DOES have MS, yes, MJ is beneficial to her.
Again, I'm very against allowing it in your home to your minor children.
I first smoked at 13 and continued to use it throughout HS.....slept through my classes. I made A's and B's on my tests, but for the class participation and HW......failed miserably. I still say big NO NO for HS'ers....sorry. What teens NEED in HS is to FOCUS, what they NEED from their parents is to be there for them and talk to them and guide them----not towards the ganja either. Trust me, I would have been much better off if I had of waited to make that choice until AFTER graduation.

 

[turtleblood]

I have a very similar mindset about drugs (and alcohol) as my mom. She raised me quite well, I think. =]
It's not a parent's decision to make whether or not a kid can smoke. I have a very strong belief that if a person, any person, wants to do anything strongly enough, he will accomplish his desire. I am of course talking within the natural realm, but you get the gist.
I will make sure that my kids know that I would strongly prefer that they wait at least until adulthood (I consider this to be 17-18 years old) to make decisions about drugs, but that I cannot force them to do/not do anything. I also won't threaten with consequences; threats are stupid and pointless.
And if any of my kids get into marijuana, I will gladly smoke with them, but they have to come up with some good weed. =]

Anyways, I have been debating something recently, which is also why I found this thread:
At my age, my mom was also into pot. I know she smoked at least a little bit, but I don't know how she feels about it nowadays. She probably wouldn't make me get rid of my weed if she found it, but I also don't think she'd be wicked cool about it; I would probably get a 'stern talking to.' This is my feeling, but I could be wrong. To the point: I am planning to ask my mom how she feels about weed, and maybe see if she wants to smoke with me sometime... So, any advice as how to go about this? Anecdotes are especially welcomed, because I'm guessing they will be not only educational but also hilarious.

 

[Babs34]

Wow, caught the thread in my roll it up...forgot about it....
Ya know, truth be known, depends on your age. Personally, if my child at the age of a mere 16 or 17 said "Hey Mom, I've got the killa here......let's smoke up." We'd be talking alright, but not while smoking up. Sorry, I know it's a reality that this generation is encountering a much more broad "choice" of "drugs"......but the same holds true no matter what.
A responsible parent wants/desires/hopes/wishes for you to FIRST become a RESPONSIBLE ADULT prior to dabbling into "extracarricular activities." At 16-18, you shouldn't even be dabbling...........the world is harsh out there. Don't use it as an excuse. Use it as MOTIVATION to make your place in life, go to school--keep your FOCUS straight FIRST.
All good things come to those who have patience.

 

[Babs34]

And Turtle, there's nothing "hilarious" about my response. A parent need not only NOT be a hypocrite, but serve as an example. I'll tell you the truth.....there are far and few between that live in a manner whereas they are stoned and dazed half the time...."while" accomplishing their bachelors, or masters for that matter.
Now, my brother......he's the rare exception, but he's a pronounced genius.
Time and place for all things. Hold off on the timing.

 

[poplars]

I don't know. I believe different people have different paths.

my path, is definitely not relative to that of what you want your child to be Babs, and I'm only 18.

weed doesn't ruin your focus, it gives you true reason for your life and helps you comprehend this vast future coming at you 100mph.

personally, I'm not a very motivated person. weed motivates me to do things I normally would be like "fuck that" sober. I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but for me it had a very positive effect, and I started at 16.

smoking with my mom only improved our relationship, without it I'm certain our relationship would be worse today.

 

[SarcasticHobbes]

my whole family smokes(well my mom quit recently)

I smoke with all of them. Its pretty damn cool.

 

[turtleblood]

@ babs;
if people weren't willing to "dabble" in their youth, there would be no adventure left in the world because all those open minded people would be couped up in their homes reading textbooks and learning about only the idealistic and nihilistic parts of the world, and not ever getting any of what i think is necessary social and worldly experience. (i don't mean just drugs, i mean "GET OUT INTO THE WORLD BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH TO SEE!" kind of experience. this often includes experimentation such as smoking weed, but it is not obligatory.)

how old do you think an adult is? the U.S. considers an 18 year old as an adult. i know plenty of people that have surpassed the age of adulthood while their maturity has failed to reach the age of 14. and these people will probably never reach real maturity. likewise, i know others who are much beyond their years. like poplars said, everyone is different.

i think NOT being a hypocrite is generally along the same mantra as serving as an example, so i'm not sure what your point is there.

...reading back within the thread, i'd say your anecdote actually was quite funny. and i quote: "LMAO." no, it's not funny that your mom was severely ill, but the general idea about the situation was humor.

i am a student currently. i am 19, and i will be returning to school in september to start my sophomore year.... along with about 20 other close friends that also "dabble," and they are all well on their way to completing their degrees.

personally, i never drank alcohol until after my HS graduation last year. i actually barely ever do, having been drunk probably 8 times in my life. i never smoked anything either until last summer, at which point i smoked cigars with friends occasionally (not inhaled). last october was the first time i encountered marijuana, and i have by now fallen in love with it. i have never smoked a cigarette. these were all my own decisions. i decided to wait, but not all people do. and that is also their own decision.

what i mean to say is that i resent your statement about people being able to happily smoke and also retain responsibility. i hope you realize how many tokers are also incredibly intelligent, reasonable, and responsible. there are also quite a few different kinds of responsibilities, such as the differences between smoking before school, during school, or after school; smoking in private or public; etc. all of these actions have the potential to screw up your life, but some are much safer and smarter than others.

that's all i have to say. no hard feelings - i just wanted to clarify things as i felt that your post attacked me personally rather than simply stating your beliefs on the thread topic. if i misinterpreted the tone of your post(s) then i am truly sorry, and i will recant what i have said above.

peace.

 

[Babs34]

I don't know. I believe different people have different paths.

my path, is definitely not relative to that of what you want your child to be Babs, and I'm only 18.

weed doesn't ruin your focus, it gives you true reason for your life and helps you comprehend this vast future coming at you 100mph.

personally, I'm not a very motivated person. weed motivates me to do things I normally would be like "fuck that" sober. I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but for me it had a very positive effect, and I started at 16.

smoking with my mom only improved our relationship, without it I'm certain our relationship would be worse today.

Poplars, I hope you are saying this with a degree that enables you a very bright future! As I said, my brother was TRULY the exception. In fact, he used a few other choice drugs while staying on the dean's list effortlessly.....as for me, I always had to study INTENSELY for the grade.

The fact is there is a time and place for all things. When a teenager, you are undergoing so many changes......and balance is key to all things.

I will NOT condone my teenager smoking in my home.....he MUST, simply MUST display a MATURITY beyond reproach in order for me to accept. I, like "hopefully" most parents wish extrodinary events for my child.......and at 18, you are somewhat still a child...........no offense. I do remember it as if it was only yesterday, mind you.

That being said, I wish I had convinced my mother to become a pothead LONG ago, LOL.

 

[Babs34]

@ babs;
if people weren't willing to "dabble" in their youth, there would be no adventure left in the world because all those open minded people would be couped up in their homes reading textbooks and learning about only the idealistic and nihilistic parts of the world, and not ever getting any of what i think is necessary social and worldly experience. (i don't mean just drugs, i mean "GET OUT INTO THE WORLD BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH TO SEE!" kind of experience. this often includes experimentation such as smoking weed, but it is not obligatory.)

how old do you think an adult is? the U.S. considers an 18 year old as an adult. i know plenty of people that have surpassed the age of adulthood while their maturity has failed to reach the age of 14. and these people will probably never reach real maturity. likewise, i know others who are much beyond their years. like poplars said, everyone is different.

i think NOT being a hypocrite is generally along the same mantra as serving as an example, so i'm not sure what your point is there.

...reading back within the thread, i'd say your anecdote actually was quite funny. and i quote: "LMAO." no, it's not funny that your mom was severely ill, but the general idea about the situation was humor.

i am a student currently. i am 19, and i will be returning to school in september to start my sophomore year.... along with about 20 other close friends that also "dabble," and they are all well on their way to completing their degrees.

personally, i never drank alcohol until after my HS graduation last year. i actually barely ever do, having been drunk probably 8 times in my life. i never smoked anything either until last summer, at which point i smoked cigars with friends occasionally (not inhaled). last october was the first time i encountered marijuana, and i have by now fallen in love with it. i have never smoked a cigarette. these were all my own decisions. i decided to wait, but not all people do. and that is also their own decision.

what i mean to say is that i resent your statement about people being able to happily smoke and also retain responsibility. i hope you realize how many tokers are also incredibly intelligent, reasonable, and responsible. there are also quite a few different kinds of responsibilities, such as the differences between smoking before school, during school, or after school; smoking in private or public; etc. all of these actions have the potential to screw up your life, but some are much safer and smarter than others.

that's all i have to say. no hard feelings - i just wanted to clarify things as i felt that your post attacked me personally rather than simply stating your beliefs on the thread topic. if i misinterpreted the tone of your post(s) then i am truly sorry, and i will recant what i have said above.

peace.

Dude, hello......I'm not ancient....damn, "sigh" Yet, there's something to be said about aging and what you learn in the process. The determining factor lies soley on your capability as a maturity factor..........that simply does NOT begin at 14...sorry. Or even a bit older.
Why do you "resent?" Yes, one can maintain a "sense" of responsibility in their youth, yet they must FIRST comprehend FULLY "what" repsonsibility is.....and when and if you become a parent you will get it........I hope.
Let's just say that if my "child" were to partake in smoking vs. many other numerous drugs, I would truly feel blessed.
But I WISH, I DESIRE, for him to FIRST AND FOREMOST, obtain FULL substance in his demeanor........smoking in your youth is just not "wise" for MOST while that young.
"Peace"

 

[camo]

Camo, if your mom has MS, you did say you "think" she has it.....that part didn't make sense to me. Well, if she DOES have MS, yes, MJ is beneficial to her.
.

I meant i think it would help her. She was diagnosed three years ago and has tried many different things to help her but none seem to work.

 

[Babs34]

Camo, MJ has PROVEN scientifically to be beneficial to MS patients....with spacticity, pain, depression...the list is truly endless. The cannabinoids ward off progression as well. The shots those with MS are told to inject at best "possibly" help....and cost on average 25 to 30 grand a year. "Yay for technology." Tell your mom a j a day keeps MS at bay, honestly.

 

[briwaller]

i dont know about all that babs drama, i do know however, i smoked with my dad at 16, we had a great relationship my whole life, i had good grades, i own my own business, i agree w/ the person(sorry im baked, i will remember their name in a second), who said that everyone has their own path, i did alot worse drugs in highschool, but weed has been a very good thing for me, i dont do anything else anymore, but i wont smoke w/ my sons untill they are 18,

 

[Babs34]

i dont know about all that babs drama, i do know however, i smoked with my dad at 16, we had a great relationship my whole life, i had good grades, i own my own business, i agree w/ the person(sorry im baked, i will remember their name in a second), who said that everyone has their own path, i did alot worse drugs in highschool, but weed has been a very good thing for me, i dont do anything else anymore, but i wont smoke w/ my sons untill they are 18,

"all that babs drama"
???

 

[Scubasteve420]

I don't have children but my parents were totally against it growing up. I started pretty young and I know if it hurt me too bad ,but it didn't help with my people skills. I'm an introvert, therefore I wouldn't allow my children to light up in my house if they were under the age of 18. I think hardcore stoners miss out a lot in life by sitting inside and vegging out all day nothing wrong with it, but I would want more for my kids.

 

[kx125rider]

when i 1st started i was like 12 and my dad was a LT for the PD in my town and i got my asskicked for just trying it one time (found out some how) but after he left me and my mom when i was 15 i started to smoke at home and inside the house . my mother was fine with it (she even smoked every now and then ) she even let me grow . (later i found out that befor she met my father she used to have a grow house and thats how she paid for her Master's) BUT i did and still do have a's in school, i didnt go and do other drugs. never bragged about it just kept it to my self and my close group of friends. now i do the same as she did to pay for school and she is even helping.

 

[purplekitty7772008]

I started off and on my freshman year in high school.

No one knew but my big sister though. I would only
do it a few weeks at a time, then quit for months

while in school. But still, I did smoke.

I always got great grades, graduated in the top 75 students
in a class of over 400.

My mom doesn't really say anything about it anymore, but
she did when I was 17 when she found out.

She doesn't even mind anymore. She just says I need to quit to get a
job. But I don't worry about it. I can just buy Quick Fix.

She told me about when she used to smoke. No biggie.

The only hypocrite in my family is my grandmother. She would
constantly try kicking my big sister out for smoking even tho

SHE HERSELF smokes weed. She is always been like this too.
She would even take her weed from her, put her on punishment,
then smoke it!!!!

I don't understand why she is like that. But its irritating.
But only me, my big bro, and big sis smoke. My 3 younger
brothers don't, and I never offer them to.

I think at around the age of 16 is when a teen is capable of making
responsible decisions for him/her self.

At least I was responsible about it, I can't all teens were/are like me.

 

[briwaller]

see my parents knew i was going to go out and get it if i wanted it, thats the kind of person i am, so theyd rather have had me getting it from them than from lopez and the wannabee latin kings in fairveiw. btw gangs in alaska are more funny than dangerous

i dunno man, they look prety scary on the history channel (gang land), lil kids runnin the snowy streets w/ f&%$ AK's and mac 10's,.,.......not as scary as a mamma moose though. lol

 

[briwaller]

"all that babs drama"
???

i dont mean to offend, i just thought u were getting a little worked up and maybe pushing ur opinion a bit hard.

 

[CaptainCRUNK]

You know, I love this discussion, some of the stuff that has been said here has brought joy to my heart (the Christmas tree with blunts on it, for instance).

I'm exaggerating a little, but for real, I think a family that tokes together, provided they're adults, or at least 17, is a happy family. Do you know how happy I would be if my dad, grandmom, cousin and I all sat around in the evening passing my bubbler or bong around and got ripped together? That would be fantastic.

I'm 20 and I have yet to smoke with any member of my family. I'm hoping my sister gets in to it as she gets older, she's 15 now, just so I have a constant companion in smoking if nothing else. Hell, hopefully by her age medical will be in full swing here in Jersey and the stigma will be lifted a bit.

I guess I'm rambling now but the main point is, as an adult, I see no problem with an entire family who likes to get elevated together. It's good bonding, it encourages talking, family meals (and/or grub runs), and it keeps everyone together. It's a beautiful thing.

 

[Babs34]

i dont mean to offend, i just thought u were getting a little worked up and maybe pushing ur opinion a bit hard.

First and foremost, Babs is no drama queen. I avoid it like the plague...if you only knew.
Secondly, I say what I mean and I mean what I say.....and I say it as a PARENT....as BOTH parents. I am Mom and Dad.
Perhaps one day you will get it.
BTW, I don't offend easily.