thanks for the bump with the info. i have been trying to talk to the guy in charge about becoming a distro for them in colorado but he fails to return any calls nor answers any that i make.
I am testing it right now with my own liquid (decided to void the warrenty), and so far I can report that it does have an excellent vapor hit, the herbal extract I am using is suspended in 100% food grade USD vegetable glycerin (I am allergic to the propylene glycol) and it seems to work just fine, however, I still don't know what the life expectancy is on the atomizer yet, as this is my first day of use. The thing I do like about it so far, is it gives a big hit, and does seem to be vaporizing at a lower temp as they claim, unlike the regular e-cigs, and I am noticing that I am getting a slightly stronger effect from from the herbal extract vapor than I do from the regular e-cigs, but it's a close call at this stage in testing. I don't want to undermine the vape-pen company for what they are trying to offer, it is working, I just don't feel the price is fair, as the batteries are extremely sesitive and there is no portable charging unit or replacement atomizers available like you get with other less expensive ecig kits. I also replaced the stuffing in the cartrige with a small peice blue fish tank filter (marineland bonded foam sleve size U from a pet store) that I learned about on one of the ecig forums, it helps wick the juice to the atomizer better than the plolyfill and keeps the atomizer from getting flooded if you acidently overfill the cart. Just be sure to rince it well in hot water before use if you decide to use it to make this mod. I still need more time to tell how long this unit will work before I have to find replacement parts. Also the lower temp setting will ease my concern of over heating the VG juice causing it to release toxic vapor. Some of the regular e-cigs ( esp. the 510 manual button) can get pretty hot, and start to almost burn my juice. I noticed this when I blow the atomizer clean, the juice left behind comes out much darker brown, and if the atomizer starts to run dry it has a very foul taste. I still think the Relvover atomizer might be a good replacement for this unit, if they ever get them in stock for me to order and test. I also want to get the Revolver PCC to see if the vape-pen batteries will fit so I can make my unit more portable. So far I'll give this a thumbs up, because it is working with my home made juice, I just hope they get their act togethe and get more parts on the site, and maybe a PCC to make this unit portable. Sorry to hear you can not get in contact with them, I don't know why they wouldn't want to distribute their product in CO, I know it is booming out there right now.
One other thing I also want to mention, it has taken some trial and error, and several burned out atomizers for me to figure out exactly the best way to use these e-cigs with herbal extract, instead of the nicotine juice that comes with them. I would not reccomend starting with this unit if you plan to experiement yourself, start with a less expensive model like the blu, or volcano, don't get very hot, they have cheap replacement atomizers (2 for $10) which means that while you figure out how to make these work, you don't have to ruin an expensive unit in the process. I have found an excellen VG recipe on line, and did a similar method of extraction ( used water to double boil it instead of oil, seemed way safer) and plan to spin my final solution in a centrufuge to get more of the particulate out to make it cleaner. I also used a french press to filter it, instead of the method mentioned below, and it seems to be working pretty good as is. I did have make 2 batches before I got the strength up to a satisfactory level using high quality herbs. I took the french press filtered VG juice from the first batch and added it to another jar fresh herb to make the second round, following the same directions, making the VG liquid more potent. Here is the recipe I found and followed: Please make this tincture at your own risk, I am simply reposting another person's post from another MMJ site.
good luck...
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If I want a potent tasty glycerin tincture without the subtle nuances, I crank out a hot potion in a week that is stronger than a typical cold tincture and use only sugar leaf. I do that by bringing a jar 3/4ths full of pulverized material and covered with about ½ inch of glycerin, up to 160F in a hot oil bath and cooking for 30 minutes at that temperature.
During that time, I frequently stir the mixture using a wooden spoon. A metal spoon will work, but you are more likely to tap the hot jar too hard and crack it.
After thirty minutes, I take it out of the oil, cap and wipe it, and set it away to cool. The next day I set it back in the hot oil and bring it back up to 160F while stirring. When it reaches 160F with the oil at 200F, I take it out, cap and wipe it, and set away.
Hot cycling creates a pumping action that speeds up the process.
I do that for seven days and on the seventh day, I pour it in a bag I sewed up out of a high thread count bed sheet, and press it in a press I made out two stainless dog dishes, some scrap metal, and a hydraulic bottle jack.
It produces a sweet tasty tincture with no noticeable burned flavor, but alas no subtle plant pureen flavors either.
The best part is that if you take the pressed pucks from two jars and put them in one jar, fill jar with glycerin and stir in a hot oil bath until it is well broken up again, bring it up to 160F and repeat the process, you will get a second squeezing that will rival the first, though lower in volume. Depending on the material, I sometimes get three squeezings."
where's the vapor?
