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Awesome cab. Can't wait to see this in action.
Stealth Cabinet Build (78Hx48Wx24D)
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greenearth5
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dude... a water cooled light???? better hope it doesnt break... otherwise its really awesome 
dude... a water cooled light???? better hope it doesnt break... otherwise its really awesome
Ya, not something i'd ever go for but I guess it'd work pretty well. Like the water cooled computers.
Good questions... I'm really not 100% sure myself yet to be honest with you. What I do know is that I'm going to start with 8 plants from seed in these pots. I'm sure a couple will go male on me, so that should free up a bit of space, width/depth-wise for flowering.
With the light as high as it'll go, I have roughly 39" from the wire shelf to the bottom of the light. The pots themselves are 8.5" tall and I figure I'll want to keep the tips at least 5-6" below the light... so that leaves me with ~ 2ft vertical room for plant in the current configuration.
I'm already thinking that I may want/need more than that. But that's the beauty of a setup like this. I effectively have another 2 ft of "emergency" vertical space by removing the wire watering shelf (1st step, ~ 7") and then removing the storage shelf (final step). That'd give me close to 4 feet, which should be plenty.
I took some pictures to show some measurements and how things might look with pots/plants. Those are my two Avalanche currently in flower (heading into week 2). Same strain I'll be growing in the cabinet. Seed site says they can get to 4-5 ft w/ 5 weeks of veg and 10-11 weeks of flower under 1000-watt.
Side question: Has anyone ever seen their ducting develop little pin-size holes? I noticed this evening that mine seems to have. The filter is currently on the outside of the cabinet, so its not really a huge deal if it doesn't get any worse.. just interesting. Maybe I need some better quality stuff??
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bringnthenoise
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Cool. Thanx for those pics. Will you train your plants? Have you tried this? And how long did you veg those plants
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We have done LST and topping in the past. Worked well but the LST can be a pain. For my first grow in this cabinet, I don't think I'll do anything more than maybe topping them. One of the reasons I got such a big cabinet was to avoid the tedious work of LST. I may try SCROG for second grow though. That looks cool and less work.
These plants have probably vegged for 3-4 weeks. I wasn't really keeping track like you would for a grow log, so I can't be sure.
bringnthenoise
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Not to be a pest but what is SCROG?
Sure man.
When you grow like that it is refered to as LST Low Stress Training.
The great part about it is that it dosent matter how many plants you have. If you only have a couple then just veg them longer, being tied down keeps the main stalk level and the side shoots produce more side shoots. Kinda like SCROG without the screen
There is another pruning techinic called super cropping. All it is is bending the stak untill it folds over. It takes a couple days for it to straighten up again and durring that time the lower growth catches up. If you do it and tie it, the plant will grow an elbow and now your growing horizontal.
When you grow like that it is refered to as LST Low Stress Training.
The great part about it is that it dosent matter how many plants you have. If you only have a couple then just veg them longer, being tied down keeps the main stalk level and the side shoots produce more side shoots. Kinda like SCROG without the screen
There is another pruning techinic called super cropping. All it is is bending the stak untill it folds over. It takes a couple days for it to straighten up again and durring that time the lower growth catches up. If you do it and tie it, the plant will grow an elbow and now your growing horizontal.
Did some light proofing tonight. We started down the path of using cardboard to affix Mylar to, which went so-so. It was a bit of a hassle and we realized that if we covered up the walls, it'd be a pain to hang side lights and to make any adjustments during the grow. So in the end, we opted to cover up the slots on the back with Black Gorilla tape. Shit is really thick and strong. Bettert than duct tape I think. Also covered up the bigger holes on the tops of each corner. That got rid of 95% of the light issues. There is still light which bounces out some of the door cracks which is visible if you have the cabinet running in a pitch black room, but I don't think it's enough to cause any problems for the plants. None of it is direct an it's minimal.
We may revisit reflecting light at a later point. Probably by painting the inside white. For now, I'm going to leave it as is.
I threw my two flowering Avalanches in there tonight to see how things go. Will post a pic or two later.
We may revisit reflecting light at a later point. Probably by painting the inside white. For now, I'm going to leave it as is.
I threw my two flowering Avalanches in there tonight to see how things go. Will post a pic or two later.
At this point, I think I'm going to move the cabinet to it's position in the room this weekend. As I mentioned, I threw two Avalanche in this evening as a test run before I start fresh with seeds around the 9th of next month. Will post some pics of the cabinet in its final position and then a link to grow log once I get started.
Here are a few pics from tonight. The cabinet running in the dark room (so you can see what remains of the light... I may get some lightweight foam to help) and the two plants I've got in there.
Here are a few pics from tonight. The cabinet running in the dark room (so you can see what remains of the light... I may get some lightweight foam to help) and the two plants I've got in there.
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Here's what I've done tonight:
- Moved the cabinet to it's final location in the room. Fits like a glove.
- Set the replacement full size watering tub under the wire shelf
- Re-did the exhaust with a much smaller reducer.. check the difference in the pics!
- Made a first attempt at side/vacation-lighting. Definitely open to any suggestions. Do you think the T5's alone will be enough to get plants through 3-7 days w/o the 400watt?
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This would only be while I'm away for multiple days. On vacation for example. Don't feel completely comfortable with the HPS running all by itself for that long. I'm hoping the decreased light won't be much of a problem for up to a week as long as I keep the same 12/12 schedule.
I dont think its a good idea really. I run mine when I am on vacation, what can happen inside a metal cabinet? Thats one of the reasons I went with a metal cabinet. Its fire retardent. The reason I wouldnt want to do it is without proper lighting I believe the plants will stretch. Its up to you. To answer your question, yea, they will survive on the side lighting but will probably not do well and stretch some.
You make a good point about the metal cabinet. I guess the worst that would happen is the fan would stop working but the light keeps working. They're on the same circuit so the fan would have to break itself. If that happened, then the bulb might bust but that's inside the cool tube and then to your point, inside a metal cabinet without anything flamable nearby. I'll give it some thought and bounce it off the wife. Thx
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