ozone generators

[wyteboi]

ONA is always a good thing to have for supplement. I like to "pull" through my carbon too, but i dont think it really matters?
Carbon>venting>fan>outside , is how i do it. If u "push" the smell out , just make sure its a air tight deal.
(my own opinion is that it is a waste of time to "scrub" the air inside the room , if your going to throw the clean air right back into the room.)
Also make sure all the cracks in the room are sucking in and not blowing out. (bigger outake then intake)

 

[bongmarley2009]

Perhaps my problem for my first grow was that I used the charcoal scrubber which I bought thinking it would work the same as a carbon filter. And I'm going to be blowing cold air from my portable a/c into the tent via ducting or the passive intake flaps. Might just have to suck it up and buy a carbonaire filter.

The scrubber sounds like it's worthless with my setup. I wanted to put it inside the tent and have the carbon filter outside the tent.

Edit: Can you explain the difference between the organic air charcoal filter vs the organic air charcoal scrubber (i have the scrubber)

 

[whitewidow2]

ok... so im still getting a bit of smell in my room basically because the carbon filter on my veg room is crap...

I cant afford to get a new fan and filter kit for it yet and apart from using air frehener i was looking at a little plug in ozone generator off ebay that gives an output of 100mg/hr called the OC plug in and its relatively cheap.

I was just wondering if this would be safe to use in my bedroom plugged into the wall or would it harm the plants?

 

[whitewidow2]

Ive decide to go for it as its cheaper than replacing my carbon filter kit just now... Low levels of ozone are ok to have around you and this is only 100mg/hr and for anyone who is interested you can buy an ecosensors EZ-1X to check your levels and stay within safe limits....

Heres the link>>> www.ecosensors.com/ez1x.html

As long as its between 0.01 and 0.05 ppm you are fine - i think its going to be a good investment, i will let you know how i get on

 

[QualityControl]

I'm been looking online as well for an air purifier and I ran across this website...I mean compared to whats out in the market its not a bad price...plus it gets rid of the smell quicker then you can blink...Here is the link:

http://bit.ly/4tS169

 

[wyteboi]

Ive decide to go for it as its cheaper than replacing my carbon filter kit just now... Low levels of ozone are ok to have around you and this is only 100mg/hr and for anyone who is interested you can buy an ecosensors EZ-1X to check your levels and stay within safe limits....

Heres the link>>> www.ecosensors.com/ez1x.html

As long as its between 0.01 and 0.05 ppm you are fine - i think its going to be a good investment, i will let you know how i get on

i have the cap 1 ozone gen and its for 5500 sq ft. it does not work for what we are wanting them for.
This thing has enough ozone to kill the plants very quick, but it will smell like skunk while doing so.
IF you can dump the "dirty air" into a 100% sealed "dump room" and let the dirty air sit with ozone for awhile then it should work, but this is VERY hard to accomplish , i tried all angles.


wb

 

[whitewidow2]

Yeah ill definitely be upgrading the offending carbon filter when i have the cash, in the meantime that little plug in is working a treat and the output is less than 0.01 so its pretty safe to use and be around - definitely reccomended.

 

[Cissy]

I paid as much for the piece of crap I got as it would cost me to get a 60pound charcoal filter. I thought it would work just the same, but it doesn't work at all. Complete waste of money.

http://www.hydroponics.net/i/133864

Guess i will be tossing it and replacing it with a real carbon filter

 

[Illegal Smile]

i have the cap 1 ozone gen and its for 5500 sq ft. it does not work for what we are wanting them for.
This thing has enough ozone to kill the plants very quick, but it will smell like skunk while doing so.
IF you can dump the "dirty air" into a 100% sealed "dump room" and let the dirty air sit with ozone for awhile then it should work, but this is VERY hard to accomplish , i tried all angles.


wb

This isn't true. It isn't 5500 sq ft, it's 5500 cubic feet, huge difference. The cap one is a small generator, it will not kill plants or harm them in any way. I have been using ozone for 15 years. Just don't put one in a closet with plants, put it in the room the grow closet is in.

 

[wyteboi]

This isn't true. It isn't 5500 sq ft, it's 5500 cubic feet, huge difference. The cap one is a small generator, it will not kill plants or harm them in any way. I have been using ozone for 15 years. Just don't put one in a closet with plants, put it in the room the grow closet is in.

No, i cannot put this in a room where people might be. That shit is very dangerous in doses like that. I got a sore throat from it while it was on another floor of the house.......at first i thought it was 5500cu ft. but i am pretty sure its sq ft. Either way it emits WAY too much o3 for a plant or a human to breath.
Like i said , i have dove everything possible to get rid of odors with it. i built a dump room and all that shit. IF you or anyone else think you can make this work then please share with us.
Smile man, i tried it ALL. The problem is the odor HAS to sit with the o3 for along time. so if you used the computer fan in the generator to exhaust the room then yes it would probably work, but your room would not be getting enough air. ??
this is the one i have: http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-ozn1-ozone-generator-up-to-5500-sq-ft-p-632.html
wb

 

[NewGrowth]

This isn't true. It isn't 5500 sq ft, it's 5500 cubic feet, huge difference. The cap one is a small generator, it will not kill plants or harm them in any way. I have been using ozone for 15 years. Just don't put one in a closet with plants, put it in the room the grow closet is in.

It creates enough ozone to irritate air-ways but I turn it off when I'm in the room if it is running. Running it on a timer eliminates all issues and you are right it will not kill the plants. I've put plants in the same room as the generator just to see if the ozone kills them. The plants showed no signs of ozone damage. It think the ozone would really hurt plants only if it was blowing right on the leaves in high concentrations.

I'm also VERY impressed by the effectiveness of in-line duct ozone generators, they are an excellent alternative to carbon filters and can even be more effective.

 

[NewGrowth]

I paid as much for the piece of crap I got as it would cost me to get a 60pound charcoal filter. I thought it would work just the same, but it doesn't work at all. Complete waste of money.

http://www.hydroponics.net/i/133864

Guess i will be tossing it and replacing it with a real carbon filter

I use one of those on my veg room exhaust works great

 

[CLOSETGROWTH]

No, i cannot put this in a room where people might be. That shit is very dangerous in doses like that. I got a sore throat from it while it was on another floor of the house.......at first i thought it was 5500cu ft. but i am pretty sure its sq ft. Either way it emits WAY too much o3 for a plant or a human to breath.
Like i said , i have dove everything possible to get rid of odors with it. i built a dump room and all that shit. IF you or anyone else think you can make this work then please share with us.
Smile man, i tried it ALL. The problem is the odor HAS to sit with the o3 for along time. so if you used the computer fan in the generator to exhaust the room then yes it would probably work, but your room would not be getting enough air. ??
this is the one i have: http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-ozn1-ozone-generator-up-to-5500-sq-ft-p-632.html
wb

Hey, I got an idea.. Grow a low odor strain!!!!

 

[wyteboi]

Hey, I got an idea.. Grow a low odor strain!!!!

................or just get a carbon filter!

 

[Mr frosty]

Please help I'm thinking of buying an ozone generator but do they work ? I grow in my garage but my bedroom is above it would it be ok to have an ozone generator working away in my garage with me sleeping above it ?

 

[Illegal Smile]

There will apparently forever be people who claim these little ozone generators are dangerous in a normal sized room. And there will always be people who believe it. So be it, I can't spend my time trying to talk paranoids down. I've been using ozone for almost 20 years.

 

[Mr frosty]

There will apparently forever be people who claim these little ozone generators are dangerous in a normal sized room. And there will always be people who believe it. So be it, I can't spend my time trying to talk paranoids down. I've been using ozone for almost 20 years.

Ok dude you'll do for me 20 years using one can't be that bad for ye ! Can you rec one for me ? I'm still using carbon filter I just wanted a ozone gen
for in my grow room as an extra if you no wat I mean ! Really app all the advice man !

 

[NewGrowth]

There will apparently forever be people who claim these little ozone generators are dangerous in a normal sized room. And there will always be people who believe it. So be it, I can't spend my time trying to talk paranoids down. I've been using ozone for almost 20 years.

YAh and it seem s to have the added benefit of cutting down the amount of powdery mildew I get as well. When mildew flares up I find turning up my ozone in the buffer room helps.

 

[AMMU]

Don't post much. Pretty much a stealth reader for quite some time, trying to learn as much as I can about cultivating a good crop.

I'm a certified indoor air quality consultant. I've had extensive training in the use of ozone and ionizers in controlling air born particulates and odor. There is a HUGE difference between a O3 generator used for commercial applications where no people or plants are present and those that are designed to be used around people, pets and plants. The amount of O3 needs to remain below .05 ppm or there can be negative consequences to anything that lives and breathes. That includes plants. BUT, there are many air purifiers that incorporate O3 in the way they control odor. BTW, negative ions aren't very good at all in controlling odor. The ionizing lights that are supposed to control odor would never be able to keep up with the odor of growing skunk cannabis.

Someone in an earlier post mentioned old Alpine Air units. Those use both O3 and negative ions to scrub the air. The negative ions cause particulates to clump together, become heavy and fall from the air. The O3 kills odor causing agents. It works because O3 is very unstable. There are three molecules of oxygen and, by nature, oxygen molecules are very stable when there are only two of them--O2. That is the oxygen we breathe. Since O3 has an extra molecule of oxygen, it is seeking to sluff one of them off on anything it comes in contact with. If that happens to be something that causes odor, the oxygen attaches itself to the particulate and oxidizes it. That completely kills the particulate and eliminates the odor.

Carbon filters catch the odor and neutralize it. O3 kills it at its source.

Air purifiers that incorporate O3 are fairly pricy. Good ones will cost over $500 US but they are very safe to use indoors, even if you sleep in the same room with them! Just as a note, the human nose, functioning normally, is one of the best O3 detectors on earth. The average person can detect O3 at about .025 ppm, well below the level that is dangerous. The smell of O3 reminds me of the smell that is outdoors after a summer thunderstorm--fresh and airy.

I currently have three air purifiers in my home and they all produce O3 at very low levels. When I smell O3, I turn them down. When I smell anything else, I turn them up. I can personally testify that they will eliminate smoke odor, skunk odor, rotten food odor, pet odors and anything else that I have ever attempted to eliminate. I have used them to help tokers cover the smell of their pleasure. And, yes, they will eliminate the smell of the growing marijuana plants without causing harm to them. It is simply a matter of finances. If you want to use ozone in a manner that will work but not cause harm, it will cost you plenty.