Dispensaries comming to Maine this fall (if we're lucky)

[Rob Roy]

A full initiative is the answer...the problem is many think in order for something to become legal it should then be taxed.
That removes one layer of slavery and replaces it with another.

The same type of people that want to control an individuals decisions about their body would then want to control your right to the fruit of your labor (your money). Authoritarianism of one group of people over others comes from many directions. Weed should be legal. Any individual should be able to grow it, just like a tomato, free from oppression of all kinds. Keep up the fight and good luck in Maine.

 

[seasmoke]

Where are the potential localities of these dispensaries?

 

[me8980109]

The Task Force just finished it's last public meeting, not that anyone could participate in the discussion. Here is where it stands currently; recommendations going to the Governor, than to the legislature to be hashed out in some comittee, than voted on. Now the have decided to recommend no dispensary limits, yet they will still control how many they approve, they simply are not setting a limit. They are favoring New Mexico's program very heavily. They have no idea really what their fuk'n talking about and it's pretty amazing sitting there listening to these morons.

They have recommended that patients and caregivers can have 6 plants. In some twisted fashion they are recommending that dispensaries can have 6 "live" plants. You might ask what's the fuk'n difference? Patients and caregivers plants continue to count as plants even after harvest until completely used, sold, dispensed. A dispensaries plant magically stops becoming a plant once harvested. Dispensaries will not be able to grow a single plant until they have patients, talk about dumb shits, that makes for a great business model.

Representative Haskell is still going to offer an ammendmant to have the Department of Agriculture grow it. They are really going to create a system that encourages caregivers and patients to move harvested marijuana offsite so they can continue to grow which will fuel a black market industry. Imagine you have a few patients and you can only have 2 1/2 ounces available for a patient. They only want an ounce this month, and an ounce next month. Now you haven't started a new plant in two months because your still sitting on 1/2 an ounce of unsold weed. Your whole grow cycle is totally fuk'ed and your patient will now go without meds.

If you've never seen your elected officials at work, it's a fuk'n wonder we get anything done at all.

 

[me8980109]

Maine State legislature meets on Thursday March 11th to have the first public session on the new Bill L.D. 1811, I just went over the draft bill which incorporates the Task Force recommendations. Pretty much a hatchet job from what actually passed last November. Patients that grow their own will be subject to an inspection with 24-hr prior notice. That inspection would be performed by someone from the Department of Health and Human Services. What they don't specify is what they will be able to inspect; grow op, entire home, property, if your a caregiver your records if any. This portion was done specifically to keep patients from wanting to grow their own, more big brother action.

That's OK, what they will ultimately do is push patients with paperwork back into the underground. Remember, having the paperwork without having the card still affords protection, just at a different level.DHHS can kiss my ass, they will be the last people walking through my house. The new bill does not spell out if clones can be bought from dispensaries, it does not describe plant sizes; is an unrooted clone a plant? Six plant limit with no description as to what constitutes a plant. People will simply move their clones somewhere else in order to sustain a continous grow op with at least a couple of different strains.

There is also no provision if someone requires more meds than they can grow with a 6 plant limit. Do the math, it doesn't work well, you keep a mom, maybe 3 in flower on a 20 day rotation, and at some point you have to take cuttings to clone. Do you do this earlier than is needed to ensure you have success, if not your back to taking more cuttings and your 20 days rotation is screwed, or you take a few extra to ensure a healthy plant is started and your in violation of grow limits. Not to mention if you would like to grow two different strains because maybe in a case like me I need a certain type med for daytime and another for nights when I can't sleep.

Taking cuttings of plants going into flower and keeping no moms is a recipe for disaster if you ask me. Yes it works but a lot of people are not up to speed enough to guarantee success and these people are going to be counting on having their meds available. As a minimum this should be a 6 and 6 deal. 6 immature plants say under 12" by 12" and 6 mature or flowering plants.

I will be attending the public sessions so if anyone from Maine would like something asked, I will be speaking and would consider asking it on your behalf. I myself will be addressing the plant limits and trying to get at least unrooted clones classified as "not plants" and on the specifics of what DHHS can request to see once inside your home. The whole inspection thing really pisses me off, their reasoning is to observe for compliance. Well if you have any proof or suspicion there is none-compliance there are avenues to conduct that search, it's called a search warrant. Do we inspect everyone's home where they make beer and wine which is covered by state law, hell no. Could they be producing and selling that wine, hell yes.

 

[me8980109]

Maine has concluded discussion on Medical Marijuana and will vote later this week. Eight dispensaries authorized, something never discussed at the meetings but I noted three months ago that they would limit to eight. They raised the registration fee to $5-15,000, sliding scale based on covering expenses, expect $15,000.

Patient costs; $90, $117 if you grow for yourself
Caregivers; $176 plus an additional $121 for each of your five patients.

Not exactly patient friendly pricing. No inspections of patients homes by DHHS. If your a Caregiver with one patient no inspection, more than one patient and you get a visit with 24-hrs notice.

Dispensaries can open without patients and have 12 plants in cultivation. Plants are defined as being larger than 12" tall or 12" wide, anything smaller is not a plant.. I knew auto-dwarf plants would have a place in my garden! Keep em under 12" and harvest all you want of "non-plants". Any strains that anyone can think of that you could consistently grow that small? Even from seed, weeding out taller auto-dwarfs and keeping only the smaller ones. Small yields but from many, many, plants that don't count against your number.

Few other changes, I'll post them when I remember them.

 

[captain insaneo]

Maine has concluded discussion on Medical Marijuana and will vote later this week. Eight dispensaries authorized, something never discussed at the meetings but I noted three months ago that they would limit to eight. They raised the registration fee to $5-15,000, sliding scale based on covering expenses, expect $15,000.

Patient costs; $90, $117 if you grow for yourself
Caregivers; $176 plus an additional $121 for each of your five patients.

Not exactly patient friendly pricing. No inspections of patients homes by DHHS. If your a Caregiver with one patient no inspection, more than one patient and you get a visit with 24-hrs notice.

Dispensaries can open without patients and have 12 plants in cultivation. Plants are defined as being larger than 12" tall or 12" wide, anything smaller is not a plant.. I knew auto-dwarf plants would have a place in my garden! Keep em under 12" and harvest all you want of "non-plants". Any strains that anyone can think of that you could consistently grow that small? Even from seed, weeding out taller auto-dwarfs and keeping only the smaller ones. Small yields but from many, many, plants that don't count against your number.

Few other changes, I'll post them when I remember them.

So how would a sog fit into their definitions if your flowering ladies in a sog were all under 12"

 

[ink the world]

bah, i knew this was gonna happen after listening to a couple meetings over the internet.

I was seriously considering being a caregiver to a few people that I know whome qualify. So if I want to be a caregiver for 4 sick friends and myself it would cost me around $650 per year plus all my growing expenses. I know "donations" are allowed, any more info specifically on that? I want to help out but I cant take a financial hit doing so.

Also assuming I get a card my total number of patients would be 5. The last I heard there was a 6 plant limit per patient, along w/ 2.5 oz. dried meds allowed per patient. Is that still intact?

 

[growone]

i know the Maine deal must be seeming like BS at this point
but compared to what NY seems to be getting ready to pass, it seems like paradise
looks a few a few dying patients will be able to buy some foul dispensary weed
probably they'll have to prove that they won't enjoy it to get a card
NY seems stuck in the 1960's at times