cost vs effectiveness

sorry meant lumens per watt

you had it right the first time. lumens per watt hid actually loses, however watt for watt they win (though this is really a bastardization of them being point sources :D)

To the OP, as a primary light, hps has disadvantages in veg. Supplementing them with blues in the 6000k range is ideal. Which is better between hid and t5's is going to depend on height, but the size most people grow to the t5's won't be able to keep up on penetration in flower.
 
fuck led they only work about just as good as cfl (probably not even as well) but they cost 50 times more. why bother? anyone paying thousands of dollars for an led setup is dumb
 
fuck led they only work about just as good as cfl (probably not even as well) but they cost 50 times more. why bother? anyone paying thousands of dollars for an led setup is dumb

Do some research punk.

Grows just as good of buds as HID
half the price to operate
Almost no heat

This information is all over ICmag and Grasscity, and any other reputable cannabis site.

Rollitup has nothing on them cause its filled with Cheap ignorant fucks who only like to talk shit or nay say someones post without doing a simple search.

http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/485206-led-grow-test-126w-hydro-grow-led-vs-180w-pro-source-led-light.html
Look at some of his tests

Go on youtube and type LED GROW
 
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