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BudBaby

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Right mate im just back from town.

I got 1 710w jigsaw with 4 blades(2 course teeth and 2 finer), 2 plastic trimming knives, heavy duty stapler and staples.

I couldnt find ay decent storage boxes in asda or wickes.

Best i can find at Argos are only 50ltr ones with wheels on, they are only very shallow though and clear. I may have to order some online. Let me know what you think. Most i viewed yesterday where clear also.

Right i couldnt find the adhesive you used anywhere and the only one they sold at wickes was flooring spray adhesive sop i got that, picture below.

Let me know what you think mate.
 

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BudBaby

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There is alot of this type on ebay, not sure if there suitable.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-PLASTIC-STORAGE-BOXES-HUGE-80LTR-LIDS-NEW-/200370970636?pt=UK_Storage&hash=item2ea70a600c


Just been looking at these also http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Hydroponics-266/Amazon-Systems-491/Amazon-Systems-1313.asp

Expensive mind. They are 79cm long x 68cm wide x 38cm tall. People seem to have problems with things clogging up though on airoponic systems.

Ive also found these Wilma Systems, there alot cheaper aswell but again im not sure if there appropriate for me. http://www.greendazehydroponics.co.uk/Wilma-Grow-System-4-pot.html
 

stelthy

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Right mate im just back from town.

I got 1 710w jigsaw with 4 blades(2 course teeth and 2 finer), 2 plastic trimming knives, heavy duty stapler and staples.

I couldnt find ay decent storage boxes in asda or wickes.

Best i can find at Argos are only 50ltr ones with wheels on, they are only very shallow though and clear. I may have to order some online. Let me know what you think. Most i viewed yesterday where clear also.

Right i couldnt find the adhesive you used anywhere and the only one they sold at wickes was flooring spray adhesive sop i got that, picture below.

Let me know what you think mate.
Ok man that all seems fine, I think that adhesieve should be fine.. I'll continue looking online for the correct size storage containers, glsd you got the other bits :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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There is alot of this type on ebay, not sure if there suitable.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-PLASTIC-STORAGE-BOXES-HUGE-80LTR-LIDS-NEW-/200370970636?pt=UK_Storage&hash=item2ea70a600c


Just been looking at these also http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Hydroponics-266/Amazon-Systems-491/Amazon-Systems-1313.asp

Expensive mind. They are 79cm long x 68cm wide x 38cm tall. People seem to have problems with things clogging up though on airoponic systems.

Ive also found these Wilma Systems, there alot cheaper aswell but again im not sure if there appropriate for me. http://www.greendazehydroponics.co.uk/Wilma-Grow-System-4-pot.html
Those containers are the right kinda thing, but.. we could really do with having flat lids :) I'll keep on hunting :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

BudBaby

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Are auto pots any good mate I've seen a few of these for sale today. A few of my mates use aquafarms but there well expensive.
 

stelthy

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Aquafarms are good but they take up alot of room and a you will get better results from DWC, I researched this for ages and DWC gives huge results :) Auto pots are good too but are better again in grow-rooms with more space, In DWC the plants have so much oxygen and nuitrient they grow at an astounding rate and the bigger the nuitrient container the less frequently you'll have to change the RES water and the easier maintaining them becomes :) :) :) and you can even add foggers in there too which makes growth even more rapid, DWC is defo the way to go and its so much cheaper as well, I'll never change from DWC I love it :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

BudBaby

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Ok mate ill go with that. Do you know im sure i saw a 3ft square DWC set up yesterday and for the life of me i cant find it now.
 

stelthy

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I'll have a quick search now...I am sure there has to be one well 2 some where :) its just a question of looking in the right place with the right keywords :) I'll get to it :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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This is kinda what were aiming for :)




only bigger so the plants will have more space between them and light can penetrate further through the canopy - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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This guys only growing small stuff, but if you only had 4-5 plants growing in there it gives you an idea of what were aiming for :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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How To: Building a cheapskate DWC system


Here's a super-cheap hydroponic DWC (Deep Water Culture) system thats used to grow lettuce and start seedlings of all kinds. Some people call this a 'bubbler' system. In this type of system the plants live in little net pots that are inserted into the top of the system and the roots hang down into nutrient solution. It's a very simple type of arrangement, but very effective.

This system is excellent for germinating seeds and starting new plants, but it's also great for growing simple crops like herbs and smaller varieties of lettuce from start to finish. Another nice thing about this system is that doesn't take up much space- This is kept on the floor in a closet.

Since it is so cheap and easy to build, I'll briefly describe how to build your own.


First, we'll talk about the materials you'll need:




(Item prices are in U.S. dollars.)

1) One 10 gallon opaque plastic storage tub (Rubbermaid or similar). Ensure that the container is wider than it is tall or you won't get as many plants into the system as you want. This should cost about $7 at a department or discount store. Note that in this photo I have already cut the holes that I need for the 2 inch net pots to rest in.

2) One large airstone. As you can see in the photo I like the flat, round type because they produc a very fine stream of bubbles and tend to stay in one place inside the reservoir. A round one like this costs $8, but you could easily use a 12 inch 'bar' type airstone which you can get at an aquarium or hydroponics store for around $3.

3) One 800-1000 aquarium air pump. This should cost around $7 at a pet/aquarium store.

4) Silicone airline tubing. I prefer silicone type to the regular plastic airline because silicone airline tubing is much more flexible and tends to go where you want it, not where it wants to go. $3 at a pet/aquarium store.


You will also need several 2-inch net pots [shown right] to hold your plants. You can get these online or at a local hydroponics shop and they usually cost less than 25 cents each. All told, you'll probably spend less than $30 on parts.

Now, to assemble the cheapskate DWC system:

1) Place your 10 gallon container into a bathtub, add a very small amount of dish detergent (not soap - use detergent). Fill the container with warm water and leave it to soak. Don't skip this step. You want the container clean of any residues from manufacturing that would otherwise get into your plants' water.

2) Using whichever method you prefer, mark spots on the lid of the container where you will be making the 2 inch holes to hold the net pots. I get 15 well-spaced sites onto the lid of a Rubbermaid 10 gallon container.

3) Using a drill and 2-inch hole saw (or a hobby knife and a lot of patience), cut out 2 inch diameter holes on all spots that you have marked.

4) Dump the soapy water from your 10 gallon container and rinse it VERY well. Leftover detergent would be very bad for your plants.

5) Bring the container and place it where you want the system to live. These containers become very flexible when filled with water and I don't advise trying to move them after they are filled.

6) Cut a length of airline tubing that is long enough to reach from the airstone (which will be resting in the bottom of your container) to the air pump. Connect the airpump and airstone to the airline and plop the airstone down in the bottom-center of your container. Don't start the air pump yet.

7) Add water to the container. The idea here is not to fill the container, but to add enough water that the bottoms of the net pots reach just barely below the surface of the water when the lid is in place. If you prefer, you could put the lid on the container now, place a couple of net pots in some of the holes and add water through one of the empty holes and simply stop adding water when the level of water comes over the inside of the bottoms of the net pots. (NOTE: For the 10 gallon rubbermaid container shown in these photos, this amount works out to be seven gallons of water).

8) Fire up the pump! Your contraption should look something like this:



If you look carefully (or look at the larger version of this photo) you'll see the bubbles bubbling away down in the reservoir. All that's left now is to add your favorite nutrient to the water, pH balance the nutrient solution and add your net pots and plants! I personally use Rapid Rooter plugs to hold my seeds and seedlings in the net pots.

If you have space near a nice sunny window, you could place your DWC system there and not have to worry about providing additional light. I don't have such a window so I provide artificial light using a 125 watt Hydrofarm brand compact fluorescent grow light.



Here's a LINK to where I got this info...


http://thebucketfarm.blogspot.com/2009/11/building-cheapskate-diy-dwc-system.html


You'll need this later and saved me a bit of time too lol :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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[video=youtube;F-1fodnGLio]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-1fodnGLio[/video]

$29 + Free shipping for 1 of these, we need 2 so thats about $58 which in UK money is £37.49 .. Thats not to bad :) for 2 and works out at £18.74 each inc postage :) !!! We could E-mail him and ask about a 2X 4 hole containers, I am sure that would be ok...And saves you the hassle of cutting the circles without splitting the plastic :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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^^^ Thats one option :) Basically its not hard to do and we could do it our selves for cheaper but we need to find a 'LARGE' container+flat lid - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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