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dbkick

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so I just had a look at my control bucket, the delay is in the on cycle. how would this solve a problem like that? the delay should be on the off cycle I would think..
 

med4u

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db,jus jumpin in here late,but did you say you were having probs without the check valve,or just pissed you didn't get one?i ve got 2 systems with the delay and no check valves and have had no probs,also do you have the 90 elbow with a hole in it on the fill pump exit from the res? to lazy to reread thread ma bad
 

dbkick

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db,jus jumpin in here late,but did you say you were having probs without the check valve,or just pissed you didn't get one?i ve got 2 systems with the delay and no check valves and have had no probs,also do you have the 90 elbow with a hole in it on the fill pump exit from the res? to lazy to reread thread ma bad
Med, I do have the 90 with the hole in it (vacuum break) pointed down, I'm gonna put my pump in the way I had it (the correct way according to the manual), right now I've got the intake pointed down and it shuts off like it should, I'll try it once more their way and see what happens. and thanks for the time.
 

dbkick

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yeah? I'd think no o2 would cause issues. maybe I'll skip the bennies except in veg. but then if the roots are colonized from being in veg I'd think they'd be some in flower unless you kill them off beforehand .
 

jdmcwestevo

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you get enough oxygen from the water splashing into the control bucket during fill and the water splashing into the res in drain. no airstones are needed.
 

jdmcwestevo

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im starting to think so to im going to have my buddy shut off his and see.
that is the best idea. i am talking from experience i figured that an airstone would be bitchen to get more DO in the water. it didnt make a difference in growth, and my root growth was slowed i asked my friend who like i said is a 3rd generation grower he explained how the airstone and the super oxygenated water was killing off my beenys from root excellerator and great white so that is why my roots were suffering. if you dont use bennys then the airstone is fine and probably beneficial depending on your setup. if you do use bennys then you need to pick one or the other otherwise you are wasting your money
 

jdmcwestevo

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the only thing I've read is to not feed the bennies in res, thats where the foam may come from.
i have never experienced this. i add my beenies and my sweeteners partially to feed them mainly because i feel it makes a very big difference in the aroma and flavor of my bud. never had foam issue can we see pictures lol im curious as to what this looks like im picturing like a shaken up soda opening and foaming everywhere or like baking soda and vinegar
 

dbkick

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beneficial bacteria are aerobic and without o2 will die, bad bacteria are anaerobic I'll always run an airstone in res.
 

jdmcwestevo

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like i said i have nothing to back it up except for my own experience and hearing this from very experienced growers with 20 years experience
 

dbkick

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they should know, they make the big bux, all I know is all I've heard is you don't feed them in the res
 

med4u

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jus curious,are you guys using organics?if so why not go chem and say bye-bye to all negative issues in hydro?,from what i understand organics are more akind to soil grows where chems are designed for hydro ie nutrients are available for immediate uptake vs. organics need to be broke down before they can be utilized,i started in hydro with organics and ran into much of the same probs that i am reading about ie ph probs,slime,brown crap,pyth,need for bb's.....it was like going to war with the whole grow! since then i went chem and have had 0 issues with any aspect of growing,so clean and easy,i have only 3 grows with the chems,but each one was easy and bountiful with not one issue,like i said jus curious,please enlighten me
 
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