WATERFARM SCROG!!!! ..first frightening waterfarm grow....Dr.Amber Frankenstien

Bluejeans

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I am trying a different type of Scrog, so I would love to hear back from the waterfarm scroggers here. Its a Collessium style Scrog. It was topped at around day 16 (2 weeks ago). Each branch will be growing on one wall, and the side branching will continue to the sides. Its going into flowering in 2-3 weeks; havent decided yet.
Well, I'm DWC, not technically waterfarm, but I gotta say that is an interesting Scrog idea. I'm gonna go sub your grow journal to see how that pans out. I have an RCB in a DWC bucket that I could do that very thing with. She's on day 29 of veg and I'm gonna flip her soon. Nicely done. +rep
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Hey doc, my tent just showed up, I have a water farm. trying to get everything set up. tent size is 2x4x5 Going to use it as veg until my flower room is empty, Really like what you have done and going to try to follow what you did.. I do not know if you seen my line up for beens, and after seeing what happened to the one shipment that someone busted up all the beens I am scared to do another order :( so I need to get a few moms going and save the big yields for the carport for spring. Maybe after awhile i can get crafty and do some wild pictures lol, love what ya do ...as they say you go girl
oh my ohmy sorry to hear about the busted beens . thats terrible! congrats on the new tentand thanks for the compliments. If i can help at all just let me know.if you dont mind me asking who did you order them beens from ? i have NEVER had a problems ever thank goodness.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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:joint:today was a good day:joint:ice cubed:joint:saw the police and they rolled right past me:joint:

I upped the wattage to 400. lowered the light.:leaf:

The deepblue WF bride is slow in growth. sooooo
I turned the water pump off for several hours then on again in hopes of the rockwool drying out a little. :leaf:
I emptied and refilled the rez. I added 150 ppm Flora Nova Bloom ph at 5.8. Immediate run off was 150. shes looking happy just really slow growing.

I bought some magical rocks to help keep the black plastic on my rockwool baby stay put. when i open the tent the blast of air has been blowing them off.
Im hoping this will be good fung shwayzy thingy for the grow area:-o:joint::hump:
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inside the waterfarmville world

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the bride (deepblue F3)

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PURPLE WREK ..yo kev dawg watch this space:joint:

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Deep Blue F3 rock wool baby

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another DB F3

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my finished scrog frame. bring it on
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drawing in progresso:joint:


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Bluejeans

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Looking good! Can you raise the lid and see the bottom of the net pot? I'd turn the water drip off until you can see a root out the bottom of the netpot. Rockwell holds LOTS of water for a long time...if it is covered up and can't dry out, you can pretty much root a seed from the initial soaking with just a little extra water.

Oh, and LOVE the screen!
 

GreenGiant49

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IMG_0104.jpgIMG_0103.jpgIMG_0068.jpgAmber, how old are the plants in the pictures. How many days since the tap root emerged from the seed? When I did my seed, I put the small rock wool cube in a home made cloner, bubbler, until the roots showed good long growth into the nutes in the cloner. The pic with the roots showing and nice leaves is at day 9.

I think the cloner is a good environment to get the roots going.
 

Bluejeans

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I think the cloner is a good environment to get the roots going.
You know, effectively, what you have there is a homemade Aerogarden :-)

I assume you have airstones in the bottom? And I agree, that is a killer way to root clones.

I gave my Vanilla Kush one last chance to survive after she got root rot in her DWC (my fault). I cut her off clean and put her in the Aerogarden. She's doing pretty good and I think she might make it after all...
 

GreenGiant49

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You know, effectively, what you have there is a homemade Aerogarden :-)

I assume you have airstones in the bottom?


Yes, I have a long airstone in the bottom to add ox and to create humidity and mist. Cheap little thing made out of plastic box the size of a shoe box. But it worked beyond my expectations. Lucky first try!

This is my first grow and I have lots of questions! One is how do you pick the right time to put her into flower mode? She is 3.3 weeks old from sprout. But she is only 4 or 5 inchs tall. Seems way too early. Im thinking maybe at 6 weeks or so. But I really am clueless.

Another situation that I will be having in one month is that I have to leave her for 7 days!! Oh My , the worry I am having! I have one plant, single water farm. I am worried about her running dry. I keep hearing people say that their plants are drinking a liter a day! With a 2 gallon res., that spells disaster for me.

This is what I am thinking. I will get a 5 gallon bucket (or maybe two), and link them to the WF with the 1/2 inch grommets, nipples and hose. Just a simple hose connection. Im thinking that this effectively doubles my rez capacity. Should this work? I dont think I need any pumps?

Look at my beauty today! Aint she prudy??
 

Bluejeans

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Yes, I have a long airstone in the bottom to add ox and to create humidity and mist. Cheap little thing made out of plastic box the size of a shoe box. But it worked beyond my expectations. Lucky first try!
Nice job! I can imagine that it will serve you well. I paid $25 for an Aerogarden on Craigslist and it is pretty much the same thing.

This is my first grow and I have lots of questions! One is how do you pick the right time to put her into flower mode? She is 3.3 weeks old from sprout. But she is only 4 or 5 inchs tall. Seems way too early. Im thinking maybe at 6 weeks or so. But I really am clueless.
Honestly, there are as many answers to that as growers, but here's what I know and you can make your decision. Many (most) strains other than autoflowers you can actually set your lights to 12/12 straight from seed. That said, any time after that will generally improve your yield. You can veg for as long as you want, but keep in mind that once you switch to 12/12 lighting, your little plant will start what is called "the stretch". Depending on the strain, she will grow anywhere from twice to three times her size now and some even bigger. If she is 3.3 weeks from sprout, the first week is the seedling stage, so you've been vegging for only 2.3 weeks. I'd give it another week or two and the switch. You'll be surprised how much she will grow in the next couple of weeks.

Another situation that I will be having in one month is that I have to leave her for 7 days!! Oh My , the worry I am having! I have one plant, single water farm. I am worried about her running dry. I keep hearing people say that their plants are drinking a liter a day! With a 2 gallon res., that spells disaster for me.

This is what I am thinking. I will get a 5 gallon bucket (or maybe two), and link them to the WF with the 1/2 inch grommets, nipples and hose. Just a simple hose connection. Im thinking that this effectively doubles my rez capacity. Should this work? I dont think I need any pumps?
Sounds like that might work, keeping some basic physics in mind...if you link buckets with a hose at the bottom, the level of water will stay consistent in both buckets...in other words, if you link a full 5 gallon bucket next to a 2 gallon bucket, the water level will try to equalize in both containers and you will overflow the smaller bucket. Now what you can do, is fill your 5 gallon bucket to the same water height as the 2 gallon reservoir which will slow down the rate at which the water level drops by half or more...did that make sense?
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. My little deepblue wF girl looks nute deficent as of this morning. She getting a bit more yellow so im going to up the nutes tonite.

thanks bluzey for taking time answer GG49s questions and concerns. YOu do a lovely job explaining everything. much better than i could. and i always learn a great deal from you as well.

GG49, i do need to get a different seedling incubation regeim down.. this is all so new and so many new problems and questions evolved as i began, which is fine.. its all a new learning experience for me.

does anyone think i should be concerned about my large rockwool cube babys sitting in that little white plastic dish. The bottom of the rockwool is always pretty moist. I was thinking getting some pebbles to set the rockwool up on , do you think that might be a good idea or just overkill?
 

machnak

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. My little deepblue wF girl looks nute deficent as of this morning. She getting a bit more yellow so im going to up the nutes tonite.

thanks bluzey for taking time answer GG49s questions and concerns. YOu do a lovely job explaining everything. much better than i could. and i always learn a great deal from you as well.

GG49, i do need to get a different seedling incubation regeim down.. this is all so new and so many new problems and questions evolved as i began, which is fine.. its all a new learning experience for me.

does anyone think i should be concerned about my large rockwool cube babys sitting in that little white plastic dish. The bottom of the rockwool is always pretty moist. I was thinking getting some pebbles to set the rockwool up on , do you think that might be a good idea or just overkill?
Morning Doc! Just wanted to say you're awesome!
 

GreenGiant49

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Sounds like that might work, keeping some basic physics in mind...if you link buckets with a hose at the bottom, the level of water will stay consistent in both buckets...did that make sense?
Hi Blue, Thanks for the response! Very appreciated! I agree with you about when to start the 12/12, wait a few weeks and decide on my own. I decided to go HPS for flowering. Picked up a light today. Excited to try it out.

I do understand the nute level issue with linked buckets. The level will be the same in each bucket, I wont be able to fill the 5 gallon bucket unless I want a huge mess and a swimming plant! As I get closer to the time of my trip, I will see how much is being used by the plant on a daily basis. Then I will link in as many buckets that I need to feed her. It the is a huge amount needed, I will use a large plastic storage box as the container, one where filling it 7 inches will be many gallons.

Does anyone know the proper size to drill the hole for the half inch grommet?

Thanks again.
 

GreenGiant49

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GG49, i do need to get a different seedling incubation regeim down.. this is all so new and so many new problems and questions evolved as i began, which is fine.. its all a new learning experience for me.

does anyone think i should be concerned about my large rockwool cube babys sitting in that little white plastic dish. The bottom of the rockwool is always pretty moist. I was thinking getting some pebbles to set the rockwool up on , do you think that might be a good idea or just overkill?
Tiffany ... um I mean Amber, here is the Youtube video that showed me how to make a cheap seedling incubator. http://youtu.be/1HL-FFH_e78 It was fun to make and easy to use. I only cut out one hole in the top as I started with one plant. I used 1/4 nutes in the water. It was great fun checking to see when the roots would penetrate the rock wool.

I was told the large size rock wool was not needed. It holds so much water. I might be temped to carefully cut it down in size trying not to damage too many roots. And yes, I would raise it up off of the bottom of the dish to let air get too it.
 

Bluejeans

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. My little deepblue wF girl looks nute deficent as of this morning. She getting a bit more yellow so im going to up the nutes tonite.

thanks bluzey for taking time answer GG49s questions and concerns. YOu do a lovely job explaining everything. much better than i could. and i always learn a great deal from you as well.
Hey, its the least I can do for all I've learned on this site! I'm glad to know that my comments are helpful.

does anyone think i should be concerned about my large rockwool cube babys sitting in that little white plastic dish. The bottom of the rockwool is always pretty moist. I was thinking getting some pebbles to set the rockwool up on , do you think that might be a good idea or just overkill?
You might consider getting a few small rectangle pots slightly larger than the rockwool, put a layer of rocks or hydroton on the bottom of the pot, then fit the rockwool on top. If you do that, I would remove the polyfilm from the outside. My grow store carries the perfect pots for 59¢ each. If you look at my recent pics (in my journal) of the clones, you'll see them in those little 4" rectangle pots.

At this stage, I certainly wouldn't try to remove them. I had one bad experience with roots getting torn and I will not risk that again. I *might* have saved my VK, but I still can't be sure, and I've lost an entire month of vegging for my mistake.

As for seed germination, here's what I do. I use the small (1.5" square) rockwool cubes.

1. Prepare a gallon of water for use with the seedlings that is pH'd to 6.0 and contains 1/4 strength nutes.
2. Soak the rockwool cubes (without the plastic film) for about 15 minutes in a little of the solution from step 1.
3. Remove the cube from the water, squeeze it gently (so as to not completely wreck the square shape) to get most of the water out.
4. Gently place the seed into the rockwool, pointy side down.
5. Pinch a small corner off the cube and use that little pinch to cover the seed
6. Set the cube on a saucer and put it under lights. I put mine in the room with my grow lights, but further away so it is not right under strong light
7. Wait patiently until the little seedling pops out! For me, it has consistently been 2 days.

I have 100% germination success so far with this method (okay, so I've only germinated 4 seeds, but they all germinated!)

My clone process is very similar and I use the same small cubes:
1. Prepare a gallon of water for use with the clones that is pH'd to 6.0 and contains 1/4 strength nutes.
2. Soak the rockwool cubes (without the plastic film) for about 15 minutes in a little of the solution from step 1.
3. Remove the cube from the water, squeeze it gently (so as to not completely wreck the square shape) to get most of the water out.
Here's where the steps differ:
4. Turn the cube upside down so that the seed indentation is on the bottom.
5. Take a toothpick and poke a hole in the wet cube, just off center and about 2/3 the way through the cube.
6. Rotate the toothpick a little to make sure the hole is as big as your stem, but no bigger.
7. Take your cutting and slice the stem at a 45 degree angle
8. Dip the cutting stem into Clonex (or other rooting compound)
8. Stick the stem down into the hole you just created. Pinch the cube a little to make sure the stem is stable
6. Set the cube on a saucer and put it under lights. I put mine in the room with my grow lights, but further away so it is not right under strong light.

Again, I have had really good success with this method. I've had 15 clones, and successfully rooted 14 of them. The 15th might have eventually rooted, but I didn't have time nor energy to wait for it and I really didn't care because I had more plants than I needed anyway. If that one took that long to root, it was probably not going to be a strong plant anyway.

Once my clones/seedlings are ready for the big game, I just plant the rockwool cube where ever I intend to grow the plant, be it soil or hydro. If it goes in soil, I just plant the whole thing, and cover the rockwool with soil and forget about it...same with hydro, just cover it up with hydroton and go for it.!
 
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