Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
okay okay. I swear, I'm still growing. Just been busy hashing it up.

The Flav from seed. This round didn't get any love but its aight.

 

blueJ

Active Member
Good shit Matt!

Ya know, it must be in the soil mix, i still can't get over this early yellowing in flower and signs of phos deficiency. My flowers, as you can see in the pictures i've put up, look bitchen and taste good, potent etc etc etc, but i feel if it stayed greener etc just a couple more weeks i could pull more weight, and there's no reason for the curling crispy leaves (phos def.) to ever occur!

What are you all using currently to supplement, for example, the low phos in bioflores? I've been using humboldts 0-10-0, but i don't think i like it, i hate the high phos @ 10! But the ingredients are simple and look like good stuff, kelp & soft rock phosphate..........

Also, i want to keep saying its a PH thing with low 5's upper 4's PH with bloom mixture, but shit it's all organic and soil full of microbes/fungi, it shouldn't matter so why/how could it even be a PH thing?
 

SketchyGrower

Well-Known Member
Speaking of hash I just was reading the January issue of skunk... Theres a section on steam distillation hashish alchemy.. I have been looking for a "glass on glass steam distiller" so I can try and make the organic honey oil... Have you tried this out? If so, can I ask where a good place to buy a apparatus at... Really want to try my hand a making dab-able hash like your vids show off :) looks fucking tasty
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Speaking of hash I just was reading the January issue of skunk... Theres a section on steam distillation hashish alchemy.. I have been looking for a "glass on glass steam distiller" so I can try and make the organic honey oil... Have you tried this out? If so, can I ask where a good place to buy a apparatus at... Really want to try my hand a making dab-able hash like your vids show off :) looks fucking tasty
Steam distilling is more for essential oil extraction, not cannabinoids.
 

SketchyGrower

Well-Known Member
so, your method on youtube is how to get your water hash able to be dab'able..? thanks for the info btw!!

this is it right ;)
Skip to the end for him calling for his mom...LOL!!
[video=youtube_share;cvYIFNX_n7U]http://youtu.be/cvYIFNX_n7U[/video]
 
Good shit Matt!

Ya know, it must be in the soil mix, i still can't get over this early yellowing in flower and signs of phos deficiency. My flowers, as you can see in the pictures i've put up, look bitchen and taste good, potent etc etc etc, but i feel if it stayed greener etc just a couple more weeks i could pull more weight, and there's no reason for the curling crispy leaves (phos def.) to ever occur!

What are you all using currently to supplement, for example, the low phos in bioflores? I've been using humboldts 0-10-0, but i don't think i like it, i hate the high phos @ 10! But the ingredients are simple and look like good stuff, kelp & soft rock phosphate..........

Also, i want to keep saying its a PH thing with low 5's upper 4's PH with bloom mixture, but shit it's all organic and soil full of microbes/fungi, it shouldn't matter so why/how could it even be a PH thing?
I agree, whats everyone using for phosphorous boost?, or i've been using just bio flores and had to cut the humboldt bloom down because of the ten percent calcium which was causing problems, (water is already too hard) and now i need to find a substitute, but the flores seems to be doing great with the boost, but sure would be nice to have a higher phosphorous thats vegan, any ideas anyone? Thought that this was a very valid question for veganics, Thanks blue J
 

woodsmaneh!

Well-Known Member
AS I was watching this I was saying to myself how fucking stupid people can be, did you see he had a smoke in his hand also..
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I agree, whats everyone using for phosphorous boost?, or i've been using just bio flores and had to cut the humboldt bloom down because of the ten percent calcium which was causing problems, (water is already too hard) and now i need to find a substitute, but the flores seems to be doing great with the boost, but sure would be nice to have a higher phosphorous thats vegan, any ideas anyone? Thought that this was a very valid question for veganics, Thanks blue J
I'm not using any Phosphorus supplement. Just feeding hard with the Flores. Using lots of CalMag, micronutes, silica, and fulvic.
 

blueJ

Active Member
I'd like to try a banana peel tea for bloom! Do you have any high P amendments in your soil Matt?

Ya know, i was thinking last night. Veg tent everything is lush, green, grows quick (considering average temp right now is 68F in there), eats up everything i give it like a real champ! Same soil mix is used regardless of my transplant time.

So i look at what is different in the bloom tent, first to mind is the change in nutrient solution/teas, okay then i think over feeding or underfeeding, maybe, then i think PH, maybe. I've upped the PH, i've used more nutes, i've used less nutes, etc etc. no matter what i do results seem to be the same = early yellowing, crispy curlying leaves (a la phos def.) and occasional "spotting" (think K def. or cal def.), and smaller leaves and curly slow growing tips (new growth). So that just leaves me confused, no matter what i've changed and monitored each change at seperate times, i'm getting the same result.

So, took a step back and thought, shit what else could it be? It HAS to be something different in the bloom tent...then a light bulb went on, literally! Maybe my HPS lights are shitty? They sure do love it under the halides, then no matter what i do in bloom they, basically, die off to soon.

Veg = eye hortilux 400w MH (X2)
flower = GE lucalox 600w HPS (X2)

I"m thinking my girls don't like this bulb!! Sorry i know, not technically a veganic issue, but hey it's a veganic grow and it's an issue! :D

I'm going to buy a good full spectrum MH and see how they react after a few days, leaving one HPS in there. What bulb ya think? Also, am i crazy for thinking it's the lights? I thought i upgraded my bulbs, but maybe these lucalux are shitty bulbs?
 

PakaloloHui

Active Member
I'd like to try a banana peel tea for bloom! Do you have any high P amendments in your soil Matt?

Ya know, i was thinking last night. Veg tent everything is lush, green, grows quick (considering average temp right now is 68F in there), eats up everything i give it like a real champ! Same soil mix is used regardless of my transplant time.

So i look at what is different in the bloom tent, first to mind is the change in nutrient solution/teas, okay then i think over feeding or underfeeding, maybe, then i think PH, maybe. I've upped the PH, i've used more nutes, i've used less nutes, etc etc. no matter what i do results seem to be the same = early yellowing, crispy curlying leaves (a la phos def.) and occasional "spotting" (think K def. or cal def.), and smaller leaves and curly slow growing tips (new growth). So that just leaves me confused, no matter what i've changed and monitored each change at seperate times, i'm getting the same result.

So, took a step back and thought, shit what else could it be? It HAS to be something different in the bloom tent...then a light bulb went on, literally! Maybe my HPS lights are shitty? They sure do love it under the halides, then no matter what i do in bloom they, basically, die off to soon.

Veg = eye hortilux 400w MH (X2)
flower = GE lucalox 600w HPS (X2)

I"m thinking my girls don't like this bulb!! Sorry i know, not technically a veganic issue, but hey it's a veganic grow and it's an issue! :D

I'm going to buy a good full spectrum MH and see how they react after a few days, leaving one HPS in there. What bulb ya think? Also, am i crazy for thinking it's the lights? I thought i upgraded my bulbs, but maybe these lucalux are shitty bulbs?
Thought I would chime in here.

Don't fortget that High P levels are toxic to your microherd in the soil!!!

Build the herd and they will provide the P for the plants through normal feedings.
 
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