Beagle
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Zombies only barter with brains!
Emergency watch now!!!
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james76208
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scarier than the evening news at least your not in Texas keep in there Michigan
Timmahh
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I on the other had Believe and Know Income taxes are UNCONSTITUTIONAL but i have to pay them anyways.
Contrary to your misguided financial background, I understand we only have so much wealth in the world. and its false wealth in reality, as you cant breath it or eat it to survive.... So Wealth to you is a 300,000 home, 2 cars in the garage, and a 1.5 month vacation every year.
Wealth to me is a Family that I love, and that Loves me in return. Wealth to me is clean air, fertile soil and warm sunshine...
When your families wealth is gone and no longer viable, my families wealth will still be over abundant. And we ll have enough of our wealth to share with others.
Fact is, If you have more monetary wealth than your neighbor or your blood Brother, then you have taken some of theirs.
Contrary to your misguided financial background, I understand we only have so much wealth in the world. and its false wealth in reality, as you cant breath it or eat it to survive.... So Wealth to you is a 300,000 home, 2 cars in the garage, and a 1.5 month vacation every year.
Wealth to me is a Family that I love, and that Loves me in return. Wealth to me is clean air, fertile soil and warm sunshine...
When your families wealth is gone and no longer viable, my families wealth will still be over abundant. And we ll have enough of our wealth to share with others.
Fact is, If you have more monetary wealth than your neighbor or your blood Brother, then you have taken some of theirs.
bob harris
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Really? I thought it was because I worked harder and invested more wisely....so it didn't have anything to do with working 18 hrs a day most of my life...funny, I thought that was how I got where I am.
bob harris
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Oh, I belive my true wealth is in my family and friends, it's just that you said If someone had some monetary wealth, they had taken it from someone else...like they stole it, not earned it.
gladstoned
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That is what thieves say when they try to rationalize stealing.
abe supercro
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Here to make best friends,,, ?
you don't make the cut. Butt, you can still be helped.
with a smidgen of love and self-forgiveness, that will be
your solace.
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delstele
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I never kiss ass plain and simple.
Spewing more misguided numbers. You see the man has paid the 35% on the money when it was made. The tax rate you provide is for the interest made on the money he paid taxes on. So by your logic he should keep getting taxed on money that has been subject to tax when made? That is fuckin stupid! Let put a tax on the money you have in the bank!
Here is a chart with the rates. If we do what Mr Obama wants the economy will crash!
bob harris
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Interesting...notice how the economy has become worse as the top rate dropped....hmmm, makes one think the top rate should be higher again.I never kiss ass plain and simple.
Spewing more misguided numbers. You see the man has paid the 35% on the money when it was made. The tax rate you provide is for the interest made on the money he paid taxes on. So by your logic he should keep getting taxed on money that has been subject to tax when made? That is fuckin stupid! Let put a tax on the money you have in the bank!
Here is a chart with the rates. If we do what Mr Obama wants the economy will crash!
The Growery
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LOL good point
Bigtacofarmer
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Yet people look at me funny when I say I have not respect for our system. There is enough bad laws in place where if you still believe we live in a free country I can't help but feel your a little dumb. The powers that be have enough laws in place to arrest and jail damn near anyone they want. There is enough zoning laws where most people can't even grow a small vegetable garden legally (most area don't enforce but the laws are still there). Water is taken for granted and a terrifying subject. I'd love to go off on how this is no surprise. Michigan had it all, it someone would have even thought it out a little all the industry could still be here and even gone sustainable by now. They fucked the land and water, then the people and they show no sign of slowing down. I'm barely interested in marijuana laws because if anyone was fixing the big picture I'm sure a sensible marijuana policy would just happen. Damn near every city between Saginaw Mi and Pennsylvania is fucked and is that way because some rich fucks sold there future. If you go to any nature preserves or by any river around here there is sign that specify how much fish you can safely consume or warning to not let you kids or pets play in the dirt. There was a few years where the rivers were so polluted they did not freeze in the winter. People burn down houses to raise there property value. People who make $10 dollars an hour are the lucky ones. We even have an arson prevention team that goes out around halloween, that how much they love to burn stuff. People walk away from $100,000 homes, not because there foreclosed but just because no one want them. You can buy a nice 3-4 bedroom home for 10-20,000. If your good at fixing things a lot of nice homes have sold here for under $1000 and all it needed was new plumbing and heating. Oh and a new zip code. Our population has gone down more than 10% in ten years and isn't stopping. Why is a town of 50 thousand people always competing for the most violent city in the country, we win sometimes.
Viva Revolution suckers!
No, really will someone slap the shit out of this fuckers already!
st0wandgrow
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delstele,
The vast majority of Mitt Romneys income the past 2 years have been capital gains on investments. He did NOT pay taxes on that income yet ..... he paid 15% capital gains taxes on that interest, which brought his effective tax rate to 15.4%.
No tricks, no taxes paid already, no gimmicks. He EARNED 27 million, and paid 15.4% in federal taxes.
Keep spinning.
The vast majority of Mitt Romneys income the past 2 years have been capital gains on investments. He did NOT pay taxes on that income yet ..... he paid 15% capital gains taxes on that interest, which brought his effective tax rate to 15.4%.
No tricks, no taxes paid already, no gimmicks. He EARNED 27 million, and paid 15.4% in federal taxes.
Keep spinning.
delstele
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Keep spinning hu..WTF?!?
You must have some type of envy going on bro the guys been successful so friggin what...So by your logic anyone who has made it should be paying for the slackers thats pathetic man. You and Mr Obama got some fucked up way of thinkin.
If the man wants to give some of what he has made that is how it should be, You do not have the right to take what he has made that's called stealing...
You must have some type of envy going on bro the guys been successful so friggin what...So by your logic anyone who has made it should be paying for the slackers thats pathetic man. You and Mr Obama got some fucked up way of thinkin.
If the man wants to give some of what he has made that is how it should be, You do not have the right to take what he has made that's called stealing...
bob harris
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You are a mis guided man. The super rich should indeed be taxed at a much higher rate, as should huge companies. All you guys want roads to drive on, free health care, clean water piped to your home...but feel it should be free..how is any infrastructure paid for without taxes? Reganomics didn't work..wealth doesn't trickle down..Keep spinning hu..WTF?!?
You must have some type of envy going on bro the guys been successful so friggin what...So by your logic anyone who has made it should be paying for the slackers thats pathetic man. You and Mr Obama got some fucked up way of thinkin.
If the man wants to give some of what he has made that is how it should be, You do not have the right to take what he has made that's called stealing...
Beagle
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Why should the middle class pay a higher percentage of their income than the wealthy?
Why should the middle class pay a higher percentage of their income than the wealthy?
st0wandgrow
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Keep spinning hu..WTF?!?
You must have some type of envy going on bro the guys been successful so friggin what...So by your logic anyone who has made it should be paying for the slackers thats pathetic man. You and Mr Obama got some fucked up way of thinkin.
If the man wants to give some of what he has made that is how it should be, You do not have the right to take what he has made that's called stealing...
I'm not talking about stealing anything. I'm talking about what's fair.
Would you agree that if a person making $60,000 a year is paying 30% in federal taxes, someone making $25,000,000 a year should also pay 30% in federal taxes no matter the source of their income?
How is that not fair? If that's not fair, then I apparently missed that day of school where the definition of fair was explained to the class.
tomcatjones
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that is not fair at all! /facepalm
makes me wish i could have continued to be an econ history and poli sci teacher...
clearly people need some schooling out there and i'll get to their kids if i have to beat the ignorance out of them.
10 percent of 100 and 10 percent of 10000 may seem fair by percentage but when you reintroduce that money back into the system and take away such a percentage from the smaller guy. the rich only get richer.
but hey.. that's the system they love and the people are ignorant to the facts.
so i suffer still dealing with shitty federal reserve notes.
st0wandgrow
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Don't get me wrong. I agree that the less you make, the less disposable income you have, so paying a certain percentage of your income will hit the low income guy WAY harder than the millionaire.
As it stands right now it's completely ass-backwards. The millionaire pays 15% capital gains tax on the vast majority of his income, and the little guy pays twice that percentage on his MUCH smaller income. Those numbers should be flipped around, and capital gains should be treated as ordinary income.
I can' stand conservatives that kiss ass to the rich.