Smoke vs Edible

[Michigangreen]

Thought I would bring up a fun topic get some input, have fun and please explain why .

I perfer to smoke, I love the taste and how fast the medication starts working.

 

[bmf725]

I have grown fond of smoking or I guess vaporizing with a vapor globe and ti-nail for concentrates. For some reason it is hard for me to sit and puff down a Jay or a bowl I would rather take one hit of full melt bubble and be good. As far as edibles I like them when I am in extreme pain like a 15 on a scale of 1-10 but its just too much commitment of being high off my ass for 12+ hours. Some edibles I can handle and it is just right but other the more potent ones I have tried just fuck me up beyond belief and cause me to have a panic attack.

 

[cephalopod]

Delta 11 thc only produced when then liver metabolizes edibles

 

[Michigangreen]

Good to know

 

[HomeLessBeans]

both of course..all the above

 

[spongey600]

Perfer edibles. My lungs are jacked. So i make my own chocolate and i have figured out.the.right recipe.to make.it.just how.i like.it. so one piece i am good for 4-5 hours bt not on my ass like dispensary edibles i have had

 

[gladstoned]

I use edibles for pain. It is fantastic for dulling pain. It also calms me down. I absolutely love it. Smoking is much better if I had to choose though.
Belle makes really good hard candy and sure enough I will eat way too much of it and that sucks pretty bad. The candy is good as fuck, and I can have a piece and smoke a joint, but then I am high and before I know it my heart is starting to race and most of the jar is gone.

 

[ismokealotofpot]

dont over cook your edibles

 

[bigbillyrocka]

I like taking some cannabutter and mixing it with regular butter then covering homemade waffles in it with syrup. before im half way through my stack of 2 im higher than a kite.

 

[bmf725]

dont over cook your edibles

What is the norm for cooking time as far as butter or oil? I usualy heat to a mild boil for an hour for my butter and I have great results. I had another caregiver tell me the other day they make CBD butter and they cook it for 2 days. But simple cannabis knowledge and logic tells me 1) you can create CBD if it is not already present and 2) Seems to me cooking for 48 strait hours would greatly diminish the amount of cannabinoids in the mix.

 

[Pimpernickel]

Neither. I use my vape instead of smoking. I use pills instead of edibles, no need for extra calories.

 

[Milovan]

I give away my edibles as they do nothing for me whatsoever.
My girl loves them though!

 

[Michigangreen]

I'm pretty sure eating or pills will soon be the norm for medication. Cause anyway you put it smoking anything is very bad for your body. But man does it taste great

 

[tomcatjones]

Delta 11 thc only produced when then liver metabolizes edibles

in with this thought,

try to eat your medibles either before or during a meal! longer lasting effects.

 

[Cory and trevor]

I always go with the greatful dead 24 hour crock pot recipe for butter. don't know what 48 hours does that 24 doesn't but it sure doesn't diminish anything. 185-215 deg F stir every few hours. I prefer to soke though LOL

 

[tip top toker]

Carrots and apples. Can't really compare them.

 

[ballin174]

What is the norm for cooking time as far as butter or oil? I usualy heat to a mild boil for an hour for my butter and I have great results. I had another caregiver tell me the other day they make CBD butter and they cook it for 2 days. But simple cannabis knowledge and logic tells me 1) you can create CBD if it is not already present and 2) Seems to me cooking for 48 strait hours would greatly diminish the amount of cannabinoids in the mix.

Usually 3-4 hours is fine.. This allows enough time for the thc to extract from the cannabis/trim.

 

[tomcatjones]

Usually 3-4 hours is fine.. This allows enough time for the thc to extract from the cannabis/trim.

remember the transference of THC or CBD to butter or what have you does not need heat.

it is the decarboxilation process that requires heat - this is what turns your THC-A into THC and then further to CBN as it degrades. and yes. you can create more, that is how it works. more CBN and CBD with lower THC would be fantastic for high anxiety or depression states.


48 hours though as long as your temps are fin and low, it won't degrade much. but you'd have a better butter if you did heat for a couple hours and then let then let the butter sit over night and then slowly melt to a liquid again or medium heat. this process actually helps with the solubility in the fat and thus your potency of budder.

 

[gladstoned]

remember the transference of THC or CBD to butter or what have you does not need heat.

it is the decarboxilation process that requires heat - this is what turns your THC-A into THC and then further to CBN as it degrades. and yes. you can create more, that is how it works. more CBN and CBD with lower THC would be fantastic for high anxiety or depression states.

48 hours though as long as your temps are fin and low, it won't degrade much. but you'd have a better butter if you did heat for a couple hours and then let then let the butter sit over night and then slowly melt to a liquid again or medium heat. this process actually helps with the solubility in the fat and thus your potency of budder.

I wish I understood that better.

 

[tomcatjones]

I wish I understood that better.

apologies... that was BEFORE my morning bowl, lol.

lunch break now!

anyways... i was trying to highlight the fact that two processes are occuring at once when slow cooking or adding heat in general.

you are extracting the thc,cbd,cbn,cbg, you name it. pulling these materials into your solution - butter, coconut milk, alcohol...

this process DOES NOT require heat.

in fact.. it's more like wine and fermentation, the longer and slower the process the more fuller the end product will be..


now if doing it over heat you are turning all of your NON-psychoactive cannabinoiDs into psychoactive ones by DECARBOXILATION.
(remove the carboxl group from THC-acid and resulting into THC the form we like.)

this is process that DESTROYS the beneficial aspect of THC-A which Belle needs!

and so after THC is present degradation occurs over time resulting in CBN. the longer the more CBNs

CBNS and CBDs are great for depression and anti-anxiety issues and pain.



many will put their product in the oven before even mixing into the end solution. i have a graph that states 300 degrees at 15 minutes is prime. but if i do it. i do 250 for about 2-25 minutes. seems to work perfect and cut down the actual heat time by a lot. i end up still simmering in a double boiler for about 2-3 hours and then leave it out for the butter to harden.

then in the morning leave the butter out on the stove and the pilot lights usually melt it very slowly. and strain after completely melted!