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[Red1966]

Martin's father, upon hearing the 911 tape, said that was NOT his son crying for help. Only after conferring with the attorney did he claim it was his son. The neighborhood had repeated break-ins recently. Martin's backpack contained stolen jewelry and burglary tools. He's starting to sound not so much an "innocent child" anymore, is he?

 

[ginjawarrior]

Martin's father, upon hearing the 911 tape, said that was NOT his son crying for help. Only after conferring with the attorney did he claim it was his son. The neighborhood had repeated break-ins recently. Martin's backpack contained stolen jewelry and burglary tools. He's starting to sound not so much an "innocent child" anymore, is he?

erm 17 is not an adult i.e. a kid

and which one of us here is profiling? and did zimmerman have any of this "evidence" when he profile this kid?

again who here is desperately profiling?

 

[afrawfraw]

If Zimmerman had REALLY wanted to prevent crime, he would have had a night vision camera instead of a fire arm. Same price. Fire arms kill people. There is no other function. Crime prevention my ass.

 

[NoDrama]

ireland only has 1.1% black community unless they're all living in your neighborhood im not too sure what you can say about racism

Because we all know that to be racist, there has to be lots of other races around to hate on?

 

[Harrekin]

Martin's father, upon hearing the 911 tape, said that was NOT his son crying for help. Only after conferring with the attorney did he claim it was his son. The neighborhood had repeated break-ins recently. Martin's backpack contained stolen jewelry and burglary tools. He's starting to sound not so much an "innocent child" anymore, is he?

Dude in fairness he shot a kid coming from the shop, who probably stopped for a joint, all this "innocent/guilty" stuff is irrelevant and is somewhat profiling. We all did dumb shit as kids, I wouldn't like to have been shot for it tho.

I do think Zimmerman will (wrongly) walk due to the totally subjectve nature of the SYG legislation.

And anyways why can't people just go to "fisticuffs" anymore?

 

[Red1966]

erm 17 is not an adult i.e. a kid and which one of us here is profiling? and did zimmerman have any of this "evidence" when he profile this kid?

Are you accusing me of profiling? I've not presumed anyone guilty, while you have. Martin was behaving like he was casing the area, and, surprise, it turns out he probably is theif. You accuse Zimmerman of profiling this "kid", but you have NO knowledge of his thoughts. Just the say so of Martin's parent's attorney, an obviously biased participant with a financial stake.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Because we all know that to be racist, there has to be lots of other races around to hate on?

lots of other races in ireland? not really

Major ethnic:	Irish 87.4%
Minor ethnic:	Other white 7.5%, Asian 1.3%, black 1.1%, mixed 1.1%, unspecified 1.6% (2006)

not that any of this is proof of racism just that harrekin isnt subjected to the same pressures as someone from a more racially diverse country might..

however when you take his 45-50% blacks in northern dublin to account a thinking man will see the underlying racism

 

[NoDrama]

Fire arms kill people. There is no other function. Crime prevention my ass.

Water kills people too.

 

[Red1966]

If Zimmerman had REALLY wanted to prevent crime, he would have had a night vision camera instead of a fire arm. Same price. Fire arms kill people. There is no other function. Crime prevention my ass.

Cameras don't prevent crime, don't you have a TV? Fire arms actually can prevent crime, I know this on a first hand basis. You think you're being logical, but your reasoning is clouded by preconceived notions. This is known as prejudice.

 

[NoDrama]

lots of other races in ireland? not really

Major ethnic:	Irish 87.4%
Minor ethnic:	Other white 7.5%, Asian 1.3%, black 1.1%, mixed 1.1%, unspecified 1.6% (2006)

not that any of this is proof of racism just that harrekin isnt subjected to the same pressures as someone from a more racially diverse country might..

however when you take his 45-50% blacks in northern dublin to account a thinking man will see the underlying racism

so, like I said, you are making the statement that to be a racist you have to have lots of other races around to hate on.

The USA is 80% White when you consider that Hispanics must be white too, but only when they kill black people. White isn't a race, its how light your skin color is.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Yes, North Dublin, you need more localised statistics bubba

Anyways my point was that we don't have "hate crimes", "interracial killings" (we just call it "murder", regardless of skin colour) and racism like you folks do, people tend to have more respect for each other than that.

Hence the lack of "white guilt", I never "lynched", hated nor disrespected nobody nor do I have any intention of ever doing so.

But the lefties just have to imply you're racist at every possible moment...it's really really pathetic at this point.

EDIT: And your statistics are 6 years old, so I take it you're unaware we have basically an open border and have had MASSIVE inward migration in those 6 years, right? But you wouldn't know that, you just work off presumptions

"north dublin"? shall i assume that takes up 25% of the population i.e north south east west?

so 50% of north dublin is black? thats 12.5% black population of dublin overall over 1000% of the 2006 stats....

your saying im working of of presumptions right? well lets see your evidence of 45-50% black population in north dublin (should be easy if you not just pulling the numbers out of your arse)

 

[Red1966]

Dude in fairness he shot a kid coming from the shop, who probably stopped for a joint, all this "innocent/guilty" stuff is irrelevant and is somewhat profiling. We all did dumb shit as kids, I wouldn't like to have been shot for it tho. I do think Zimmerman will (wrongly) walk due to the totally subjectve nature of the SYG legislation. And anyways why can't people just go to "fisticuffs" anymore?

Because that means that only the biggest and meanest have power, while the young, old, and/or weak are nothing but prey. Did you attack anyone as has been asserted here, or just throw snowballs at cars?

 

[Harrekin]

lots of other races in ireland? not really

Major ethnic:	Irish 87.4%
Minor ethnic:	Other white 7.5%, Asian 1.3%, black 1.1%, mixed 1.1%, unspecified 1.6% (2006)

not that any of this is proof of racism just that harrekin isnt subjected to the same pressures as someone from a more racially diverse country might..

however when you take his 45-50% blacks in northern dublin to account a thinking man will see the underlying racism

You're just so sad you see racism in everything.

"Isn't subjected to the same pressures as someone living in a racially diverse country" ?!

Wouldnt someone from a mostly white country be MORE racist due to a lack of integration with other races? Your logic is as dumb as your racial sensitivity.

And since you obviously don't understand statistics, just because the % of black people as an overall figure isn't high, it doesn't mean that part of one city (the capital) cant have a disproportionately high % of that group in that area. (Directly related to the fact there's only work in the Capital and it's where the international airport and seaport is.

Lack of local knowledge means you don't really know shit about what you're talking about it seems.

 

[chrishydro]

The world now knows the evidence, the guy is going to walk. Terrible loss of life I am not sayin anything else. I have kids, I am a single fater I cant imagine the loss of one of my children I would be devistated but the evidence is the evidence. As to the fater saying it was not his son, and by the way the kid lived with his father, I would know I am telling you I would know their voice in a heartbeat. What is not part of the evidnece is the phone records from the girlfriend that claims she was on the phone with him. Dont think for a minute that the defense does not have those records. If they proved she was telling the truth it would be in the states evidence. It is not. The whole thing is a shame the whole thing sucks big time but I never beleived abc when they said it was a racial killing. It was a flat out avoidable incident that cost a child his life. UGH the entire thing makes me flat out sick. I live in a big city and kids, adults, women, men, animals are killed every day. Sometimes 3-4 times a day. Four kids were killed in their car just the other night. Sad, makes me sick to my stomach. Bottom line ABC news doctored the video to hide the bandage on the nose, ABC lied to the enitre nation and upset everyone and got everyone picking sides. This case just reaks of lies. The media is to blame, the incident should have been handled by the police and you and I should not be even talking about it. Thousands of our children dies in Iraq and AFG each day. They are dying right now but we dont give a shit, it is all just screwed up.

 

[ginjawarrior]

I don't know, sounds more to me like the young Mr. Martin, like many black folk, had a chip on his shoulder against white people. Many black youth are taught all about the "white Devil" and how all of life's ills can be blamed on the cracker. Black on white violence as a statistic far exceeds any other racial violent stat in the USA. Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks. Odds are a'ginst ya.

so, like I said, you are making the statement that to be a racist you have to have lots of other races around to hate on.

The USA is 80% White when you consider that Hispanics must be white too, but only when they kill black people. White isn't a race, its how light your skin color is.

no not at all people are perfectly capable of being racist in a 100% white community it takes living in a racially diverse community to understand what it is to NOT BE RACIST

and it seems to me you have a bit of trouble working out who is "white" or "hispanic"

 

[Red1966]

Water kills people too.

Water is a gateway drug.

 

[Harrekin]

Because that means that only the biggest and meanest have power, while the young, old, and/or weak are nothing but prey. Did you attack anyone as has been asserted here, or just throw snowballs at cars?

Do you have anything to support the assertion that Martin initially attacked Zimmerman? Or you just presuming?

 

[ginjawarrior]

You're just so sad you see racism in everything.

"Isn't subjected to the same pressures as someone living in a racially diverse country" ?!

Wouldnt someone from a mostly white country be MORE racist due to a lack of integration with other races? Your logic is as dumb as your racial sensitivity.

And since you obviously don't understand statistics, just because the % of black people as an overall figure isn't high, it doesn't mean that part of one city (the capital) cant have a disproportionately high % of that group in that area. (Directly related to the fact there's only work in the Capital and it's where the international airport and seaport is.

Lack of local knowledge means you don't really know shit about what you're talking about it seems.

care to show proof of your 45-50% black community there? you havent backed it up yet i can only go on the facts available to me

as i just said to nodrama it takes living in a racially diverse culture to know what it really means to not be racist

 

[Red1966]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^We should outlaw water. Thousands of children have died as a result of inhaling water. At the least, it should only be allowed with a doctor's prescription.

 

[NoDrama]

Water is a gateway drug.

absolutely right, water is also the cause of all evil in the world, and all murderers have been guilty of partaking in water at some point. Case closed I say, lets make water illegal, problem solved. I am a Bureaucrat.