Reagan was the worst President ever

BadDog40

Well-Known Member
Ok, we're getting somewhere! You basically said that Reagan started it, which he did NOT. Now, we've had 2, count 'em 2 democratic presidents since Reagan. What have they done to improve the "drug war" situation? How about the "police state" situation? I'll be patiently awaiting your answer. :blsmoke:

So when your wife catches you fucking her sister your argument is because Joe down the street fucked a stripper its ok?
 

Justin00

Active Member
I quoted the correct post, do I need to paint you a picture?
if he is Reagan, then who/what does Joe, his wife, and the stripper correlate to?

i am not disagreeing with you i just don't get your reference. please don't take offence i honestly thought you had the wrong quote, i have before.

i assume the point you are making is that one person getting away with something does not justify you doing the same, but i can't make the connection to the first post....
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
So when your wife catches you fucking her sister your argument is because Joe down the street fucked a stripper its ok?
Is that what I said?:???:

What I was TRYING to say is that it's ok for me to fuck her sister because she is HOT and I'm horny! :hump: I don't give 2 shits about Joe down the street and his skanky stripper! :spew:
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
if he is Reagan, then who/what does Joe, his wife, and the stripper correlate to?

i am not disagreeing with you i just don't get your reference. please don't take offence i honestly thought you had the wrong quote, i have before.

i assume the point you are making is that one person getting away with something does not justify you doing the same, but i can't make the connection to the first post....
lol!

I didn't get his reference either.:sad:
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Reagan does not even come close to being worst ever.

Obama is not yet finished with his first term and has already driven us so far into debt that we will probably never recover, has continued the worst of Bush's anti-freedom initiatives, and is generally the worst narcissist in my memory.

All hail the One.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

You DO know that it wasn't "black slaves" that initiated the Civil War? I get it! Everybody was taught that the Civil War was ALL ABOUT slavery. It wasn't the central issue though. Like it or not, the statement you responded to is fairly accurate. Slavery was on its way out and would've been entirely done away with thanks to mechanization and rapidly advancing farming technology. History isn't all rainbows and unicorns and sometimes the truth stings a bit. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that slavery was abolished and the Union victory saw to it that abolition would be enforced. The Civil War left deep scars that still exist to this day. It was very costly in lives and property.
I fail to see the humor in my statement..??? Do you believe it was ok for slavery to continue for even one day longer then it had too ??? The Civil War was very much about slavery ( STATES RIGHTS) and the expansion of the practice.

For those who say "man we could have just waited 15 years for MAYBE slavery to end and everything would have been cool"..Tell you what give me your wife for only two years and then I will just give her back. Don't worry if I beat, rape, mistreat her because in two years everything will be cool.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
I fail to see the humor in my statement..??? Do you believe it was ok for slavery to continue for even one day longer then it had too ??? The Civil War was very much about slavery ( STATES RIGHTS) and the expansion of the practice.

For those who say "man we could have just waited 15 years for MAYBE slavery to end and everything would have been cool"..Tell you what give me your wife for only two years and then I will just give her back. Don't worry if I beat, rape, mistreat her because in two years everything will be cool.
:roll:

The humor in your statement was how naive it was. I don't think slavery is funny, and no I do not condone the practice. Also, I never said we should've waited for slavery to just go away. It's often argued that slavery was a central issue, but many historians disagree with that. It was AN issue, but far from THE issue. Do you deny that the Civil War still is a sore subject for many in this country? Do you deny that mechanization and improved farming technology would've likely made slavery inefficient and basically obsolete? That was my point. I'm sorry if you disagree, but my statement in no way means that I am a proponent of slavery. ;-)
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I fail to see the humor in my statement..??? Do you believe it was ok for slavery to continue for even one day longer then it had too ??? The Civil War was very much about slavery ( STATES RIGHTS) and the expansion of the practice.

For those who say "man we could have just waited 15 years for MAYBE slavery to end and everything would have been cool"..Tell you what give me your wife for only two years and then I will just give her back. Don't worry if I beat, rape, mistreat her because in two years everything will be cool.
I require a codicil that you not return her before term under any circumstances. cn
 

Justin00

Active Member
I fail to see the humor in my statement..??? Do you believe it was ok for slavery to continue for even one day longer then it had too ??? The Civil War was very much about slavery ( STATES RIGHTS) and the expansion of the practice.

For those who say "man we could have just waited 15 years for MAYBE slavery to end and everything would have been cool"..Tell you what give me your wife for only two years and then I will just give her back. Don't worry if I beat, rape, mistreat her because in two years everything will be cool.
you seem to be under the impression that it was the slaves that started and fought the civil war, when in all actuality it was white supremacy v/s white supremacy the slaves did not sit at the bargaining table, they did not get to decide what they were willing to give up, they were tools used by white men to pit one against another for economic and political power. They were abused in every way and used as heartlessly by both sides, and to push them into this as tho they had some say or advocated the murder of 500,000 people on there behalf is wrong.

and once again i would never be as atrocious as to offer another's life you as payment for my wishes, but if it will stop the gruesome death of 500,000 americans, including my friends and family, and the destruction of this country, i might be willing to offer myself.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
:roll:

The humor in your statement was how naive it was. I don't think slavery is funny, and no I do not condone the practice. Also, I never said we should've waited for slavery to just go away. It's often argued that slavery was a central issue, but many historians disagree with that. It was AN issue, but far from THE issue. Do you deny that the Civil War still is a sore subject for many in this country? Do you deny that mechanization and improved farming technology would've likely made slavery inefficient and basically obsolete? That was my point. I'm sorry if you disagree, but my statement in no way means that I am a proponent of slavery. ;-)
The only people that have a problem with the Civil War are the fuckers who lost. Unless I'm in the fuckin South ( or the freakin internet ) I don't hear shit about the Civil War. People love to change history....If you think the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery (STATES RIGHTS ) then you are one lost individual.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
you seem to be under the impression that it was the slaves that started and fought the civil war, when in all actuality it was white supremacy v/s white supremacy the slaves did not sit at the bargaining table, they did not get to decide what they were willing to give up, they were tools used by white men to pit one against another for economic and political power. They were abused in every way and used as heartlessly by both sides, and to push them into this as tho they had some say or advocated the murder of 500,000 people on there behalf is wrong.
You must can't read...Please show where I said that^^^^^..did not read anything after that in red, because I found myself asking WHY ????
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Thom Hartmann is certainly not random.
As well as having a syndicated radio and television show he has appeared on Fox news many times.
He is actually very well respected as an author and political talk show host. As a matter of fact I have turned a few Conservative friends on to him and although they dont agree with him, they all like and respect him. Maybe you should give him a try. Its a lot better then living in a reactionary bubble.
sorry but anybody who struts and frets his hour on the stage over the declared failings of reagan after all this time is the reactionary. blaming bush has lost some traction so its time to jump in the Way-Back machine and find a new boogeyman.

you know who else is well known for having a syndicated radio show, has appeared on fox news many times and is well respected as an author and political talk show host? Glen Fucking Beck. i dont think ill be listening to that asshole either. does that also make me a reactionary? or maybe i'm a bourgeois running dog imperialist? maybe im anti-intellectual? oh i know, i bet im ignorant of the brilliance of thom hatman, the genius voice of a generation.
 

Justin00

Active Member
The only people that have a problem with the Civil War are the fuckers who lost. Unless I'm in the fuckin South ( or the freakin internet ) I don't hear shit about the Civil War. People love to change history....If you think the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery (STATES RIGHTS ) then you are one lost individual.
so what your saying is your fine with the patriot act? with the feds busting up mmj states and the citizens there, you feel the states that have legalized mmj against the will of the feds are "fuckers who lost"?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
so what your saying is your fine with the patriot act? with the feds busting up mmj states and the citizens there, you feel the states that have legalized mmj against the will of the feds are "fuckers who lost"?
What does that have to do with the War between the States? cn
 

Justin00

Active Member
You must can't read...Please show where I said that^^^^^..did not read anything after that in red, because I found myself asking WHY ????
you act like they were bargaining and one of the players at the time, would i be willing to give up this or that for so long, because i said slavery would have been able to be ended peacefully in 5 years.
 
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