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guy incognito

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http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2013-01-13/medical-childrens-psych-journal-wont-retract-fraudulent-paxil-study/

http://www.naturalnews.com/037653_vaccine_additives_thimerosal_formaldehyde.html - Click on the links in the paragraphs for sources, not just at the end of the article. They also put aluminum, MSG, and mercury in vaccines and claim it helps the vaccines work better. They are putting NEUROTOXINS in childrens vaccines. Gee, I wonder why so many children have psychological issues nowadays and problems learning. Combine that with kids chugging down tap water filled with flouride and the fact that every human reaction is a "disease" nowadays that requires prescription medication. Medication that damages their brain.

For example, http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=03C9AF75-E1BF-FF40-DBA9EC0928DF8B15 was a link in the article. They even admit formaldehyde causes cancer, just open up the documents.
You are ridiculous. I've already explained formaldehyde. Yes it's carcinogenic in large doses. What isn't? Do you know more people die from inhaling dihydrogen monoxide than from every chemical listed in that article? And the government pipes that shit directly into my house!!!!

I hope you are sterile. I also hope you are ineffective at promoting your batshit crazy ideologies.
 

guy incognito

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The general consensus of that article is that fluoride has greatly benefited us and is still a necessary additive to the water supply, albeit perhaps in slightly lower concentrations than previously used. Is this supposed to be damning or something? What is your point dude? This article contradicts your claims and other articles you posted about fluoride being evil. You aren't even consistent with your own bullshit.
 

see4

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[video=youtube;zV2y4sUQ2tM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV2y4sUQ2tM[/video]

this is jtprin right now.
 

ClaytonBigsby

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When the second amendment was created, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed", AR15's did not exist.

Also, by your logic, since our government owns nuclear weapons, "weapons of mass destruction", should we not allow everyone to own them?

Your logic is flawed in every way possible.

Oh and by the way, AR15's are not military spec weapons. M16 A-1 and the like are. At least that was what it was issued when I served in our military. How 'bout you? When did you serve?
Never claimed to be a veteran. Don't twist words. Oh, wait, not possible for you, that is the only thing you are capable of doing.

Could care less whether you believe me or not. Just stating my current life status. It was probably unnecessary, but I did it more as a point.

I'm not taking sides. I just wanted to point out this inconsistancy. The rest was too much to get into.
 

see4

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I'm not taking sides. I just wanted to point out this inconsistancy. The rest was too much to get into.
Serving in the military does not automatically qualify you as a veteran. A veteran is someone in the military that has gone to war. I did not go to war. I am not being inconsistent, you just don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
 

jtprin

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You are ridiculous. I've already explained formaldehyde. Yes it's carcinogenic in large doses. What isn't? Do you know more people die from inhaling dihydrogen monoxide than from every chemical listed in that article? And the government pipes that shit directly into my house!!!!

I hope you are sterile. I also hope you are ineffective at promoting your batshit crazy ideologies.
You're both so clueless and brainwashed there's really no point in talking to you, it's a waste of my time. Go ahead, keep drinking tap water, get flu shots and vaccines, eat GM food, trust that the government is trying to help you even though the country continues to get shittier and shittier. The point was that even the government has admitted that flouride levels need to be lower, and by the way, it doesn't take a lot of flouride to cause harm. I gave plenty other links proving how dangerous it is.
 

see4

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You're both so clueless and brainwashed there's really no point in talking to you, it's a waste of my time. Go ahead, keep drinking tap water, get flu shots and vaccines, eat GM food, trust that the government is trying to help you even though the country continues to get shittier and shittier. The point was that even the government has admitted that flouride levels need to be lower, and by the way, it doesn't take a lot of flouride to cause harm. I gave plenty other links proving how dangerous it is.
People have been drinking tap water with fluoride (why do you consistently misspell that word?) for nearly a century now, there are no known cases of fluoride related deaths.

How can we take you seriously when you can't even correctly spell the word to which you are trying to argue.
 

jtprin

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People have been drinking tap water with fluoride (why do you consistently misspell that word?) for nearly a century now, there are no known cases of fluoride related deaths.

How can we take you seriously when you can't even correctly spell the word to which you are trying to argue.
Actually, it's linked to the #1 cause of death.

http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/
Sources from article: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/there-association-vascular-fluoride-uptake-vascular-calcification-and-coronary-artery
 

ClaytonBigsby

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Serving in the military does not automatically qualify you as a veteran. A veteran is someone in the military that has gone to war. I did not go to war. I am not being inconsistent, you just don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
Wow, I was just pointing out an inconsistency on your part. You had the option to correct it, or me, and you chose to go batshit crazy and curse at me. By the way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran

A veteran (from Latin vetus, meaning "old")[SUP][1][/SUP] is a person who has had long service or experience in a particular occupation or field; " A veteran of ..." .[SUP][2][/SUP]
This page refers to military veterans, i.e., a person who has served or is serving in the armed forces. Those veterans that have had direct exposure to acts of military conflict may also be referred to as war veterans (although not all military conflicts, or areas in which armed combat takes place, are necessarily referred to as "wars").
 

kpmarine

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Serving in the military does not automatically qualify you as a veteran. A veteran is someone in the military that has gone to war. I did not go to war. I am not being inconsistent, you just don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
Yes, you are a veteran if you have been in the military. You are a WAR veteran if you have served and gone to war.
 

jtprin

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Looks like the dumbass is being exposed even more. How could you have served in the military and not known this? Oh yeah, because you are a fraud. Just like your whole four homes and six figure salary lmao.
 

guy incognito

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Neither you nor Anthony Gucciardi know what you are talking about. That's not what that article even says.

Sorry it's taking so long to respond, but I like to know what the fuck i'm talking about when I post.

Here is an article that will explain why you are wrong, and will then provide 12 documented articles that support the exact opposite of what you claim.

http://skepticalvegan.com/2012/01/20/fluoride-heart-disease/


[h=2]Fluoride & Heart Disease?[/h] This month a study allegedly linking cardiovascular disease and fluoride was published in Nuclear Medicine Communications and was almost immediately set up by anti-fluoridationists to bolster their case that fluoridation of water supplies is a dangerous conspiracy. The source of most of the misinformation seems to be an article written by Anthony Gucciardi in which he claims that “new research has linked sodium fluoride to cardiovascular disease, the leading cause of death worldwide“, “fluoride consumption directly stimulates the hardening of your arteries“, and links it to water fluoridation saying, “sodium fluoride is currently added to the water supply of many cities worldwide, despite extreme opposition from health professionals and previous studies linking it to decreased IQ and infertility.” Gucciardi has a history of irresponsible science writing for sites such as Natural News and Natural Society and this latest article is no different, the study Gucciardi was reporting on was not about the use of dental fluoride or fluoridated water at all. In reality it was a retrospective study examining imaging data from 61 patients who received whole-body sodium [¹⁸F] fluoride PET/CT studies. PET (Positron Emission Tomography) scans use positron-emitting tracers, in this case the radioactive isotope fluorine-18, in the blood to produce a 3D image of the body and are an important diagnostic tool in oncology and elsewhere. It appears that Gucciardi grossly misunderstands or willfully misrepresents both the nature of the study and its conclusion that “increased fluoride uptake in coronary arteries may be associated with an increased cardiovascular risk“. Upon reading the actual study it becomes clear that it was not fluoride that was being studied as a risk factor , rather the study was examining the the usefulness of fluorine-18 to aid in imaging atherosclerosis and determining risk as clearly outlined in the Objective statement.
Objective The feasibility of a fluoride positron emission
tomography/computed tomography (PET/CT) scan for
imaging atherosclerosis has not been well documented.
The purpose of this study was to assess fluoride uptake of vascular calcification in various major arteries, including coronary arteries.
There you have it, the authors of the study we simply seeing if they could use fluorine-18 to image atherosclerosis rather than saying fluorine-18 induced atherosclerosis. But what about sodium fluoride? Sodium fluoride, along with hexafluorosilicic acid and sodium hexafluorosilicate, is used in small quantities to fluoridate water supplies or salt depending on where you live. Fluoridation has rightfully been called one of the most successful and cost-effective public health measures, saving millions of dollars in dental work and preventing untold cavities. Fluoride’s safety has been well studied and when it comes to heart health numerous studies (1, 2, 3, 4) show no positive correlation between fluoridation and heart disease or increased mortality, in fact numerous studies (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 , 6, 7, 8) show an inverse correlation with heart disease possibly resulting from reduced effects from dental infections. Contrary to what the anti-fluoridationists would have you believe, fluoride may actually have a protective effect for your heart. So next time you see a scary or sensational headline take a little time to look deeper, things often are not what they seem. Be skeptical, not susceptible.
Oh, and those claims some people make about how the Nazis used fluoride to dumb down prisoners? Totally and utterly baseless. Some people really do just make stuff up.
 

jtprin

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Neither you nor Anthony Gucciardi know what you are talking about. That's not what that article even says.

Sorry it's taking so long to respond, but I like to know what the fuck i'm talking about when I post.

Here is an article that will explain why you are wrong, and will then provide 12 documented articles that support the exact opposite of what you claim.

http://skepticalvegan.com/2012/01/20/fluoride-heart-disease/
Lol I love the "anti-fluoridationist" phrase, but again, you're wrong. You sound like you're pissed and in denial because you drank a lot of tap water as a kid, or maybe even do to this day.

http://www.ewg.org/fluoride
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/11/dr-bill-osmunson-on-fluoride.aspx
http://www.mbschachter.com/dangers_of_fluoride_and_fluorida.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdfNfxDNLxk - Dentist on fluoride. "Toxic to body, toxic to brain, toxic to body growth/healing, interferes with growth and development".

There's overwhelming evidence on the dangers of fluoride.
 

kinetic

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jtprin, so your logic is fouride is bad and makes people die sooner and lower intelligence. So how do you explain average IQ's increasing as well as the average lifespan of U.S. males and females? See the Flynn effect for the iq portion of my statement.
 

jtprin

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jtprin, so your logic is fouride is bad and makes people die sooner and lower intelligence. So how do you explain average IQ's increasing as well as the average lifespan of U.S. males and females? See the Flynn effect for the iq portion of my statement.
What would that have anything to do with fluoride? Average IQ's and lifespan increasing wouldn't disprove the harmful effects of fluoride. Our medical technology is advancing and more is known about health than before. Where did you get your U.S. average IQ facts?
 

guy incognito

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Lol I love the "anti-fluoridationist" phrase, but again, you're wrong. You sound like you're pissed and in denial because you drank a lot of tap water as a kid, or maybe even do to this day.

http://www.ewg.org/fluoride
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/11/dr-bill-osmunson-on-fluoride.aspx
http://www.mbschachter.com/dangers_of_fluoride_and_fluorida.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdfNfxDNLxk - Dentist on fluoride. "Toxic to body, toxic to brain, toxic to body growth/healing, interferes with growth and development".

There's overwhelming evidence on the dangers of fluoride.
The phrase is very true though. I've known anti-fluoridationists like you. Quite honestly some of the stupidest people I have ever met. On par with 911 truthers.

You are anti-fluoridationist because you have latched on to the idea that fluoride is evil and parrot the verbal diarrhea of nut jobs like alex jones and anthony gucciardi. You do not review the "evidence" you encounter with a critical eye; anything that fits into the preconceived opinions you are told to have is automatically valid evidence to you. You don't understand what a credible source is. Everything you say is bullshit. When present with counter evidence you dismiss it and move on to another topic. Oh you have laundry list of youtube videos that document how certifiably INSANE alex jones is? - better just move on to another batshit crazy unsupprted topic. When I am presented with so called counter evidence I spend the time to read the information with an open mind and investigate the sources for myself. So far nothing you post is passing the test. In fact the more I look into it the more crazy and/or stupid you seem.
 

see4

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Wow, I was just pointing out an inconsistency on your part. You had the option to correct it, or me, and you chose to go batshit crazy and curse at me. By the way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran

A veteran (from Latin vetus, meaning "old")[SUP][1][/SUP] is a person who has had long service or experience in a particular occupation or field; " A veteran of ..." .[SUP][2][/SUP]
This page refers to military veterans, i.e., a person who has served or is serving in the armed forces. Those veterans that have had direct exposure to acts of military conflict may also be referred to as war veterans (although not all military conflicts, or areas in which armed combat takes place, are necessarily referred to as "wars").
Right. And in turn you could have investigated this matter prior to commenting. And furthermore, and look at this carefully... "is a person who has had LONG service..." - I only served 4 years and was honorably discharged, during a non war period.

I've gone through this with the V.A., I am not a veteran. Clearly you are not either, and only quoting something from wikipedia and not from personal experience... again... you don't know what you are talking about.
 

see4

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Yes, you are a veteran if you have been in the military. You are a WAR veteran if you have served and gone to war.
That is not true. We can take this offline if you like, and can provide you my discharge papers.
 
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