Recommended Literary Philosophy for Children

NietzscheKeen

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I've longed to expose children to philosophy, especially my own, but I'm finding there are very few books that are suitable for children. Therefore, I am hoping to create a few of my own. I'm currently working on adapting Voltaire's Micromega for a much younger audience. I am hoping to get some other suggestions for philosophers, books, etc that would be suitable for children if simplified a bit. Any suggestions? I'm thinking Plato and Nietzsche might be a good starting place because of the style of writing. Spinoza, Wittgenstein and Hegel are out, obviously.

As far as other stories go, it might be possible to adapt Homer, Dostoevsky and some of the Vedas to name a few.

Thoughts? Thanks.
 
Great idea, NK, there should be more philosophic children's books. I'd like to see some of Aristotle's ideas covered, as well as some Dennett. I think it's important for kids to learn some cognitive science; how our minds work, it's weaknesses and fallibility so as not to succumb to most of the major fallacies right off the bat. I'd love to see some of your work if you ever feel like posting some for us...
 
Philosophy is the manipulation of language in order to reflect a more pleasant world view. It's primary use is to flatter our ego by enjoyable formulations. Someone with a few notions in semantics will discard it as mental constructions with no solid ground, the problem here is the lack of structural coherence between what is verbally implied and the structural integrity of physical reality as it is. In a way it's trying to make the world behave as our words behave.

Simple question. Have we answered a single question about our nature or the world around us solely through philosophy? The answer is pretty clear. But many people still see it as a science and keep fighting over affirmations and arguments regardless of their lack of meaning in the first place.

Our way of thinking still has it's roots in convictions uttered many years ago in a context that has changed dramatically since then. Trying to apply those ideas today asks us to put aside every bit of knowledge we gained through scientific inquiry. We cannot afford to stay in a Aristotelean, Euclidian and Newtonian world.

I enjoyed reading other persons toughts and reflexions, but after a while you realize those are just words, whose meaning resides in what that particular philosopher intended them to be, not in our faulty and limited interpretations.

If you want to educate a child, leave word magic behind.

There are a lot of fields far more important.

But hey, it's just my opinion.:wink:
 
Here's my fave! cn

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Aristotle would be a good one in some aspects. I will brush up on him.

I did think of Dennett after I wrote that first post. His quote consciousness is an illusion by the mind for the mind has stuck with me. I do like Sam Harris's book The Moral Landscape. I think that if presented in a difference sort of language Dennett and Harris would be accessible by children.

Here is a link to some of what I have so far; rough draft of course.
https://www.rollitup.org/inspired-art/657722-help-book-my-son-seeking.html
 
Epics. Read your children The Odyssey, The Illiad, The Epic of Inkidu and Gilgamesh, Native American Creation Stories, The Mahabharata. These are much more interesting than "philosophy" texts but contain the same implicit questions and ideas.
 
Epics. Read your children The Odyssey, The Illiad, The Epic of Inkidu and Gilgamesh, Native American Creation Stories, The Mahabharata. These are much more interesting than "philosophy" texts but contain the same implicit questions and ideas.

These are all good suggestions. I was thinking Homer and the vedas, I'd have finish reading them myself unless I was go cheat and use sparks notes, lol.

Tell me about The Little Prince.
 
Earl Connee and Theodore Sider

Riddles of Existence; A guided tour of Metaphysics....


Phenomenal book, written in a way that (most) people can understand. Can be a bit heavy at times, but if you're looking for easy reading in Philosophy you're looking in the wrong genre. LOL

I always thought it was somewhat comical in University when an English teacher, or Psychology teacher, etc., would assign 60-75 pages of text to read before the next class that would usually take about 90 mins to really read and digest what you're reading.

In my Phil classes we'd get 15-25 pages to read and it'd take you all damn night to figure out what the fuck they're talking about. Never in any subject, have I ever seen a sentence last for an entire page, except for Philosophy.

Here's the table of contents for the Connee/Sider book;

Chapter 1, Personal Identity (Sider) Think back ten or twenty years
into your past. You now have little in common with that earlier you. You look
different. You think differently. And the matter now making you up is almost
completely different. So why is that person you? What makes persons stay the
same over time, despite such drastic changes?

Chapter 2, Fatalism (Conee) Fatalism claims that everything is fated to
be exactly as it is. Why believe that? Over the centuries, there have been
intriguing arguments proposed in favor of it. We investigate how well these
arguments work.

Chapter 3, Time (Sider) Time can seem like the most mundane thing
in the world, until you really start to think about it. Does time flow? If so,
what could that mean? How fast does it flow, and can one travel back in time,
against the current?

Chapter 4, God (Conee) Does God exist? Yes, some say; and they claim
to prove it. We examine the proposed proofs.

Chapter 5, Why Not Nothing? (Conee) Why is there anything at all
rather than nothing? Can we even understand this question? If so, what sort
of answer might it have?

Chapter 6, Free Will (Sider) We all believe that we are free to act as
we choose. But the business of science is to discover the underlying causes of
things. Given science’s excellent track record, it’s a reasonable guess that it will
one day discover the causes of human actions. But if our actions are caused by
things science can predict and control, how can we have free will?

Chapter 7, Constitution (Sider) “If you hold a clay statue in your hand,
you are actually holding two physical objects, a statue and a piece of clay. For
if you squash the statue, the statue is destroyed but the piece of clay keeps on
existing.” This argument seems to establish a very strange conclusion: two
different objects can share exactly the same location. Can that be correct? If
not, where did the argument go wrong?

Chapter 8, Universals (Conee) Any two red apples have many things in
common: most obviously, each is red and each is an apple. These things that
they share, redness and applehood, are universals. Universals are very strange
entities. Redness, for instance, seems to be in thousands of places at once;
wherever any red object is located, redness itself is there. Do these universals
really exist?

Chapter 9, Necessity and Possibility (Sider) Not all truths are created
equal. It is true that Michael Jordan is a great basketball player, and it is true
that all bachelors are unmarried. Although each of these is a truth, there is a
big difference between them. The First truth might have been false: Jordan
might have decided never to play basketball. But the second truth could not
have been false: bachelors are necessarily unmarried. What makes these truths
so different?

Chapter 10, What is Metaphysics? (Conee) After reading nine chapters about nine different metaphysical issues, you might expect to have a clear
idea of what exactly metaphysics is. But it is remarkably difcult to identify a
unifying feature common to every metaphysical topic. We examine some ideas
about the nature of metaphysics itself.
 
I always thought it was somewhat comical in University when an English teacher, or Psychology teacher, etc., would assign 60-75 pages of text to read before the next class that would usually take about 90 mins to really read and digest what you're reading.

In my Phil classes we'd get 15-25 pages to read and it'd take you all damn night to figure out what the fuck they're talking about. Never in any subject, have I ever seen a sentence last for an entire page, except for Philosophy.

LMAO so true. They was the only classes in which I had to have other books to explain the main text so that I could understand it. Your brain actually felt tired afterwards, lol. They were also the only classes in which I didn't have a minimum number of pages required for essays. The poor saps taking say Philosophy of History as an elective seemed to think that meant the class would be a piece of cake. The day comes to turn in the paper that we had been working on for 3 weeks and they turn in the 2 pages they threw together last night. All the others that had been there and done that turned in 12 and 15 page essays, not because we wanted to write that many pages, but because it took us that many pages to argue our point, lol.

Oh cool! Thanks Beef. I totally forgot about the "introductory" topics of discussion that these reminded me of. It would be fun trying to put all of that into terms a child could understand. Types, tokens, the appleness of an apple, easy concepts such as these etc. etc. My intention was to try to get my son thinking at an early age. I think you might be onto something.
I will check this out. This book seems to have pretty much everything anyone would need to start with. Thanks for introducing me to two more authors. I'm very interested in philosophy of language, so I will definitely check into Sider.
 
No problem, man! I thought some intro would be the best place to start....

Get their feet wet with some interesting tid-bits before slamming them with truth function logic and the like! :D
 
I think logic will have to wait till later, lol. Just looking for something to get his naturally curious mind into gear. Teach him how to ask questions, etc.

I was stuck on parables like Euthyphro, Laches, and the cave allegory, but one could easily ask questions to hopefully get him to think though. Have a curious animal discover a question and go with him on his journey to find the answer. Hopefully each story will teach a virtue or lesson.
 
Neitzsche is a great read, might be a bit intense for a starter topic... lol

"Once upon a time there was a man, but not just any man... he was a 'superman', or as Mr. Neitzsche used to call him, "The Übermensch"!! ROFL....

I really found ethics stimulating. Phillipa Foot, and Judith Thompson as contemporaries, and Aquinas, Hobbes, Kant... never really cared for Kants deontological ethics but you need to know it to understand so many other philosophers stances. I always found Hobbes' 'state of nature' and social contract theory very interesting...
 
Yeah, ethics is my other fave. Philosophy of Language for the meal and Ethics for dessert.
I had a hard time with Hobbes. I understand his theories, but I never actually read much of his stuff, lol. Rawls, Locke, and Stevenson are some that I enjoy also.

I was starting to work on a childrens version of Euthyphro, but I forgot about the beating and murdering of a slave... not really child content, lol. But I think I can make some changes so that it is more kid friendly and still keep the same message. Perhaps in an anthropomorphic world someone's brother hurts someone, maybe pushes him and he breaks his arm then the guy is going to go tell his parents or something. Then carry on with the dialogue more or less.

Idk about Nietzsche, Only crazies read and like Nietzsche apparently, lol.
 
I found Aseop's Fables to be a great read for kids.

But after reading the previous answers maybe this probably isn't what you're looking for....
 
Aesop's Fables ARE great, but they are perfect as they are. Yeah, I'm hoping to "create" something "new". A kid friendly version of important books. Thanks for the post!
 
Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder. Might give you some ideas. I think this book would be ok for kids around 5th or 6th grade. It works its way through all of the major philosophers with a cool story mixed in to keep it interesting. It's actually an enjoyable read and not complicated at all. This was required reading for Philosophy 101.
 
"I conclude that the Aristotelian doctrines with which we have been concerned in this chapter are wholly false, with the exception of the formal theory of the syllogism, which is unimportant. Any person in the present day who wishes to learn logic will be wasting his time if he reads Aristotle or any of his disciples. None the less, Aristotle's logical writings show great ability, and would have been useful to mankind if they had appeared at a time when intellectual originality was still active. Unfortunately, they appeared at the very end of the creative period of Greek thought, and therefore came to be accepted as authoritative. By the time that logical originality revived, a reign of two thousand years had made Aristotle very difficult to dethrone. Throughout modern times, practically every advance in science, in logic, or in philosophy has had to be made in the teeth of the opposition from Aristotle's disciples." ~Bertrand Russel
 
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