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CoreyATX420

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ROFL... I was joking with my wife just yesterday how the only weed that naturally herms is Thai :) Remarkable co incidence really. Aside from Thai and Thai crosses, sorry bud but yeah grower error. A little stress, a lot of it, but I seriously doubt any legit cannabis club will purposefully distribute hermaphrodites. Sure some are more prone to it, but it is a pissy move to ignore the possibility the growers screw up and always blame it on the genes. My arrogant opinion only, but if it herms for one guy and not the next, grower error mate.
arrogant uninformed opinion indeed. sativa doms are more susceptible to herm. as well as unstable genetics, a herm genetic manifesting, or the good ole shit happens. not always grower error what so ever lol.
 

Mad Hamish

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arrogant uninformed opinion indeed. sativa doms are more susceptible to herm. as well as unstable genetics, a herm genetic manifesting, or the good ole shit happens. not always grower error what so ever lol.
:P Yeah yeah Corey. Slagging off the Masters in PM's to me and alla that mate, carry on now nothing to learn here. Uninformed my ass buddy. And yes, bottled nutes DO kill bennies because of regulations that require companies to sterilize the nutes, BTW. Regulations do not discriminate between good and bad bacteria mate. Moaning to me in PM's about Gandalf and Rrog's opinions on the matter won't change that buddy. You kids these days, you're a funny bunch really you are.

Here's how it is: ALL cannabis has the potential to hermaphrodise. ALL of it. But in most cases, it depends on ENVIRONMANTAL TRIGGERS. Dude, South Africa has SATIVAS ONLY as land races. Why is this not Herm City then brother?

Thing is, you want DANK weed, you are going to have to deal with more than a fair amount of inbreeding. This weakens absolutely any organism. Inbreeding. Which means as far as cannabis goes, the environmental factors or 'triggers' become a helluva lot more sensitive. A lot of the newschool reefer is so inbred it will NEVER survive in the wild.

You yourself say the word 'prone' to herm. NOT guaranteed. Hence, the onus lies upon the GROWER to ensure conditions in which this will not happen. Quite frankly, reefer is not as easy to grow as it used to be even in the early 2000's, let alone the late 90's when I was cutting my teeth on growing dank.

Please note that I am leaving out reefer BRED off feminised seed here. There we have a different ballgame altogether, where you will be guaranteed hermaphrodites after a generation or two, so let us leave that one aside. If it is a fem in the first generation, sure then what I am saying here definitely does count. But everybody and his uncle knows you don't go crossing out a FEM. The technology is anything but perfect there.

And also let us work under the assumption that no serious grower will allow anything but a properly bred first-generation FEM to enter his garden. The argument is null and void in that case, as I keep saying, that is grower stupidity. Careful who you take your seeds from, seriously.

Fact of the matter is, you talk to the old heads out here and you will find they laugh off the notion that fems cause herms. You take most of this stuff and get it onto perfect conditions you will not see a herm, ever.

Matter of fact, I know some large scale outdoor growers that actually DO breed off fem seeds and you NEVER see a hermaphrodite.

Instead of blaming it on genetics, why not rather try and explore the triggers for what just happened, as I did. You can only become a better grower because of it.

Here, this was Tahoe OG at 2 weeks:



Here, this is Tahoe OG at 3 1/2 weeks, in the same room, same spot, but with the ONE environmental factor that I felt was to blame removed, the rest of the conditions were exactly the same:



Don't blame the genetics. Just up your game. Because of making the decision to learn from the plant, I have become a tiny bit better at what I do, and I am grateful even though it did cost me my entire SoG thanks to pollination. It is a big loss. Am I being a littly sissy about it? NO. I am being honest and fixing the problem. Getting better.

This is how it rolls. And ladies and gentlemen, get used to it, the inbreeding of cannabis is far from over. These plants are going to get more and more sensitive. But it's fine by me, when I started toking a joint hardly got me high (early 90's) and now I can grow shit that gets me whacked after one hit. There is a price to pay for that. But vigilance will prevail.

Just up your game man.

I know this is not a popular opinion because bitching about it is so much easier. But I have almost two decades experience growing, sure it's mostly been outdoors where I NEVER saw a herm in my life. This was the first herm I saw with my very own eyes actually, EVER. But fact of the matter is, it was grower error.
 

pSi007

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:P

Matter of fact, I know some large scale outdoor growers that actually DO breed off fem seeds and you NEVER see a hermaphrodite.

Instead of blaming it on genetics, why not rather try and explore the triggers for what just happened, as I did. You can only become a better grower because of it.


Silver Nitrate + Sodium Thiosulfate will make a female plant grow pollen sacks. I could take pics if i cared. :) I have produced 1000s of FEM seeds and none Hermi on me.. I have a BubbleBerry and NYCD which I roasted with olive oil (and it was fuking delicious) because they are genetic hermis. The NYCD came from Soma. 1 of 10 Females from seed I had to make f2 turned Hermi and it killed ALL of the f2 process. half of the females from it are genetic hermis, sucks ass.. be careful with strains like BubbleBerry and NYCD.
 

HGK420

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Pirate did get his quote trolling Arjan into that vice documentary....

So there's that he's done... Lol
 

Uncle Pirate

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Pirate did get his quote trolling Arjan into that vice documentary....

So there's that he's done... Lol
Arjan isn't on this forum, so I don't think I was trolling him. I just made a wisecrack about Greenhouse, not Arjan directly, and it made it to the film. That word troll gets thrown around too much. Like "hater". Just because someone doesn't like something that was said, they automatically label the person a hater or a troll. Not referring to you, just saying.
 

HGK420

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Arjan isn't on this forum, so I don't think I was trolling him. I just made a wisecrack about Greenhouse, not Arjan directly, and it made it to the film. That word troll gets thrown around too much. Like "hater". Just because someone doesn't like something that was said, they automatically label the person a hater or a troll. Not referring to you, just saying.
your right, i was gonna get on and correct it earlier but i only had my phone and that shit sucks.

the word trolling definitely does get thrown around a lot when its prolly not applicable.

true trolling doesn't involve facts usually and what you said about arjan is fact last i checked lol.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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You can't bullshit a bullshitter!!! Sooooo anyone wanna talk bout CC? I'm really fucked up next to my credit card and really can't but that damn OSD has me so intrigued. I could just tell my wife it was the Ambien.
 

HGK420

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lol dont go drive your car off a bridge!!

ive read some narly ambien stories..

lived a few myself. not really any bad ones. but some weird ones.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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damn you strain whore. im roofied right now and youre gonna pressure me to overdraft. where would you rate the zons stealth. 10 being the doc, herbies 9, tude 0, etc
 

HGK420

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lol that cherry mountain drop snagged me a fat overdraft!

ehhh idk. it works. they definitely are using a tactic. they are the only ones doing said tactic too ive noticed.

epicly fast too.
 

HGK420

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green crack was in stock like 10 days ago.... saw it at 2 am and said "il sleep on it. if its still there when i get up then its meant to be!" (i just made 2 orders that night)

woke up... ALL GONE!

i was bummed
 

RedCarpetMatches

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damn they even have Bhodi! You just turned me out HGK. fIRST BB NOW THE ZON. Need more room...I'll just sleep on a pile of trimmings.
 

HGK420

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they got weird bodhi too.... mountain temple was in stock til yesterday. they had green lotus first too. like a week or 2 before the tude.
 

HGK420

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you ever hear of cannetics? i handnt til a week or so ago. i snagged a pack of the deadhead x nepali last go. for the price i had to give em a run.
 
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