The decline in healthcare begins

Oh, you mean like legal fines? That is not what these are, you are not failing to appear, you are not failing to pay a parking ticket.
You're failing to pay a tax. Punishable by imprisonment. Only debt still punishable that way.
 
There is no debtor's prison in the United States, we don't go to jail for owing money - not yet anyway. you must be thinking of some other country in some other century.
You do go to jail for not paying taxes. You must be thinking of some other country.
 
You do realize that the rating was dropped not because of the debt but because of the republicans threatening default to push though social cuts.
The rating was reduced because the congress, both dems and repubs, couldn't negotiate. Blaming it all on the other party is just lying to yourself.
 
The rating was reduced because the congress, both dems and repubs, couldn't negotiate. Blaming it all on the other party is just lying to yourself.

So for example one person grabs the steering wheel and threatens to crash the car if they don't get what they want... the other person is equally at fault?
 
Maybe you need a good death panel. This is vaguely similar to conversations going on with the new energy production emission standards. Lots of folks want to keep filthy coal burning forever. Couple of god brothers on the scene with that one. Much fear being spread there, too.
On both sides, but mainly on yours.
 
So for example one person grabs the steering wheel and threatens to crash the car if they don't get what they want... the other person is equally at fault?

i made a thread about it at the time for posterity.

the GOP wanted to crash everything unless they could raise taxes on the middle class.

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/592046-gop-fiscal-cliff-counter-offer.html

their strategy is fucking brilliant in hindsight, who still remembers their nonsense when it is buried under blessed rape and the magical uterus that can prevent rape pregnancies?
 
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