I LIKE Early Harvests -- Anyone Else of that Mind?

Agrees but an outdoor plant does not go by the 12/12, so weeks are hard to get an exact date on. I just know when it's starting to go into the hormonal change outdoors when stretch starts. Weeks and time really just can't be depended on.

OK. I get the message. You all know ALL. No open-mindedness here, no experimentation, no inquiry, no analysis and evaluation of 'the other'.

So here's the deal: think about it. I live in Oregon where recreational is now legal. Outside business is already moving in. I have a close friends who are growers here and the writing is on the wall: unless growers ARE open-minded about agriculture, about business, and about dealing with gov't bureaucracy, they will be pushed out of the business by the larger companies, or by the very few, clever growers who take over the others -- folks who HAVE open minds and take risks and experiment. This board perfectly reflects why those small producers will fail. So enjoy your couple years now when you have a niche and a step ahead of those hawks. They will come as your state legalizes, if not already.

And, in a couple years, you'll be buying some seeds someday of a new strain that ripens two weeks earlier than other strains -- early enough to beat mold from autumn rains, reduce costs, less pest problems etc. And you all will jump on THAT bandwagon too, as the experts you are. I'm trying to move toward that strain, and thought someone here might have something useful to say -- some folks were encouraging, some were impolite, and some act here like they need to be spanked. What are YOU contributing? Sounds a lot like a high school boys' bathroom here.

Goodbye. It was interesting.

P.S. How could pot smokers/growers be SOooooo straight and traditionalist? It boggles.....

ganga gurl420 said:

Agrees but an outdoor plant does not go by the 12/12, so weeks are hard to get an exact date on. I just know when it's starting to go into the hormonal change outdoors when stretch starts. Weeks and time really just can't be depended on.

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true, however, a plant that looks like it's 4 weeks in is usually 4 weeks in. his plant looks 4 weeks in. it is never a good idea to harvest at only 4 weeks...

when you've been going at it for a few seasons (as i know you have) you get a feel for flower period. you start to 'know' the 2 week, 4 week, 6 week, 8 week, and 'almost there' stages even with strains you've never run before. and you certainly get an eye for that 'done' look they get just after the end of the swell.

i see your side of the picture, gg. hope you see mine.

cat of curiosity said:

the ''1/4'''' and ''cola ends'' are not proper terms, nor are they ways to judge anything about the plant, other than appearance. you certainly weren't a science teacher...

pistils don't matter unless you are pollinating. and referring to a cola in the manner you're speaking would mean to check the apical flower cluster on the central stem/stalk. a topped plant will have many apical flower sites, one not topped will have one main apical growth with laterals lagging behind.

the start time of flowering is the first day after 12 hours of uninterrupted darkness AFTER the plant has reached sexual maturity. if no preflowers before 12/12, no flower yet, and your time is moot.

first day after first dark cycle after first full sexually mature flower on at least one alternating internode.

science is cool. i used to be a teacher too.

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Duh! The plants were outside! You need to read. Counting flowering from the moment you put them into 12/12? Duh.

kowski said:

OK. I get the message. You all know ALL. No open-mindedness here, no experimentation, no inquiry, no analysis and evaluation of 'the other'.

So here's the deal: think about it. I live in Oregon where recreational is now legal. Outside business is already moving in. I have a close friends who are growers here and the writing is on the wall: unless growers ARE open-minded about agriculture, about business, and about dealing with gov't bureaucracy, they will be pushed out of the business by the larger companies, or by the very few, clever growers who take over the others -- folks who HAVE open minds and take risks and experiment. This board perfectly reflects why those small producers will fail. So enjoy your couple years now when you have a niche and a step ahead of those hawks. They will come as your state legalizes, if not already.

And, in a couple years, you'll be buying some seeds someday of a new strain that ripens two weeks earlier than other strains -- early enough to beat mold from autumn rains, reduce costs, less pest problems etc. And you all will jump on THAT bandwagon too, as the experts you are. I'm trying to move toward that strain, and thought someone here might have something useful to say -- some folks were encouraging, some were impolite, and some act here like they need to be spanked. What are YOU contributing? Sounds a lot like a high school boys' bathroom here.

Goodbye. It was interesting.

P.S. How could pot smokers/growers be SOooooo straight and traditionalist? It boggles.....

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what you are experimenting is something we covered decades ago.

no need to reinvent the wheel, just learn what there is to know (we have logged millions of hours and journals for forward thinking individuals). research, understand as much as you can, form a hypothesis, and then experiment to further our efforts. no problem doing something new, but saying you just discovered that pot can be harvested 6-8 weeks early is not accurate.

those plants looked great. i wish you'd only cut half though, for experiment and science....

kowski said:

Duh! The plants were outside! You need to read. Counting flowering from the moment you put them into 12/12? Duh.

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first day after first 12 (ok, we'll say 16), dark cycle if plant is sexually mature.

the sexually mature part is important.

kowski said:

OK. I get the message. You all know ALL. No open-mindedness here, no experimentation, no inquiry, no analysis and evaluation of 'the other'.

So here's the deal: think about it. I live in Oregon where recreational is now legal. Outside business is already moving in. I have a close friends who are growers here and the writing is on the wall: unless growers ARE open-minded about agriculture, about business, and about dealing with gov't bureaucracy, they will be pushed out of the business by the larger companies, or by the very few, clever growers who take over the others -- folks who HAVE open minds and take risks and experiment. This board perfectly reflects why those small producers will fail. So enjoy your couple years now when you have a niche and a step ahead of those hawks. They will come as your state legalizes, if not already.

And, in a couple years, you'll be buying some seeds someday of a new strain that ripens two weeks earlier than other strains -- early enough to beat mold from autumn rains, reduce costs, less pest problems etc. And you all will jump on THAT bandwagon too, as the experts you are. I'm trying to move toward that strain, and thought someone here might have something useful to say -- some folks were encouraging, some were impolite, and some act here like they need to be spanked. What are YOU contributing? Sounds a lot like a high school boys' bathroom here.

Goodbye. It was interesting.

P.S. How could pot smokers/growers be SOooooo straight and traditionalist? It boggles.....

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You're not being open minded, you're just acting like a fool. You murdered a baby plant and now you're asking us to praise you for it. Sorry to say, but you fucked up.

Dude remember I grow in Oregon also. God gave you two ears and two eyes, but only one mouth,,,,, listen and see twice as much as you speak and you will learn.

Kingrow1 said:

Im not even sure smoking that bud qualifies you as a weed smoker...

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Lol

kowski said:

OK. I get the message. You all know ALL. No open-mindedness here, no experimentation, no inquiry, no analysis and evaluation of 'the other'.

So here's the deal: think about it. I live in Oregon where recreational is now legal. Outside business is already moving in. I have a close friends who are growers here and the writing is on the wall: unless growers ARE open-minded about agriculture, about business, and about dealing with gov't bureaucracy, they will be pushed out of the business by the larger companies, or by the very few, clever growers who take over the others -- folks who HAVE open minds and take risks and experiment. This board perfectly reflects why those small producers will fail. So enjoy your couple years now when you have a niche and a step ahead of those hawks. They will come as your state legalizes, if not already.

And, in a couple years, you'll be buying some seeds someday of a new strain that ripens two weeks earlier than other strains -- early enough to beat mold from autumn rains, reduce costs, less pest problems etc. And you all will jump on THAT bandwagon too, as the experts you are. I'm trying to move toward that strain, and thought someone here might have something useful to say -- some folks were encouraging, some were impolite, and some act here like they need to be spanked. What are YOU contributing? Sounds a lot like a high school boys' bathroom here.

Goodbye. It was interesting.

P.S. How could pot smokers/growers be SOooooo straight and traditionalist? It boggles.....

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K well your attitude is what set the path for your experience here ....I'm a very open minded grower ....you asked a question and didn't like the answers so you went into defense trash talking mode ....if you can't handle it don't dish it .....early finisher or not you harvested way to early and I think you know that and it upsets even you that's why your so defensive about it ......there's a pretty large harvest window for most plants several weeks even ....but yours were no where close

kowski said:

OK. I get the message. You all know ALL. No open-mindedness here, no experimentation, no inquiry, no analysis and evaluation of 'the other'.

So here's the deal: think about it. I live in Oregon where recreational is now legal. Outside business is already moving in. I have a close friends who are growers here and the writing is on the wall: unless growers ARE open-minded about agriculture, about business, and about dealing with gov't bureaucracy, they will be pushed out of the business by the larger companies, or by the very few, clever growers who take over the others -- folks who HAVE open minds and take risks and experiment. This board perfectly reflects why those small producers will fail. So enjoy your couple years now when you have a niche and a step ahead of those hawks. They will come as your state legalizes, if not already.

And, in a couple years, you'll be buying some seeds someday of a new strain that ripens two weeks earlier than other strains -- early enough to beat mold from autumn rains, reduce costs, less pest problems etc. And you all will jump on THAT bandwagon too, as the experts you are. I'm trying to move toward that strain, and thought someone here might have something useful to say -- some folks were encouraging, some were impolite, and some act here like they need to be spanked. What are YOU contributing? Sounds a lot like a high school boys' bathroom here.

Goodbye. It was interesting.

P.S. How could pot smokers/growers be SOooooo straight and traditionalist? It boggles.....

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There are strains that have been developed over the last few years that flower earlier, very interesting stuff, however your plant does not appear to be one of those. Now stop acting like a baby and accept that you fucked up because you didn't know what a fully mature plant looks like.

damn,, I dont mind an early Sativa..but ur early and my early are weeks apart..

Next grow please be more patient and dry and cure properly- tis well worth it.

Never took the time to look at teacher's early chop here.But,to me clear head bud gives a high most will not enjoy,there for,a waste of a season grow.
PS...I wonder why oregon growers do not protect the flowers,before it rains on them?as in GH...class is dismissed folk's

kowski said:

Well, just so you get it right: This new strain here (Afghani x Chem Diesel) promised to be early-flowering and excellent for indoor grows: not a large plant and 8-10 weeks [maybe] to flower. I chopped those two plants as they were finishing week 7. The pic of the whole plant, now that i look at the pic, was taken a week before harvest. You can see the date on the pic file name.

The plants were not large, but the colas looked fine, the larger ones about two inches in diameter.

Given the descriptions of early-middle-late harvests here:
http://www.dutch-passion.com/en/news-and-development/when-should-you-harvest-cannabis/
I harvested somewhere between early and middle.

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Still way to early!! That plant needed probably another month at the least.

Being this was my first ever incident where i had to pull early, id like to throw this in. I started a blue widow from seed thinking i wasnt going to be able to find clones. Well i found clones and already had seedlings i didnt want to waste, so i threw them in the same aeroponic setup. After reading this thread, figured id be donating the widow to the homeless or something of that nature, but that wasnt even close to the case. The widow actually retained much more terpy flavor and the high actually lasts a little longer. So IMO, Not trying to be a dick, but a lot of the hate in this thread has no merrit. Unless youve grown EVERY strain and pulled both early and late, your posts are nothing more than opinion, extremely far from proven facts. Sorry for my xanny hangover rant but below are pics of the Widow before and after harvest then the glue. If you thinking im out of my mind, your more than welcome to visit me here in Lakewood CO and test for yourself.

I wouldn't harvest if the buds were that small. Definitely could do with more sunbathing. And some of the leaves were looking rather yellow. Not sure if your plants were getting all they needed. Maybe nitrogen def or something?

Otherwise. Looks ok.

23Jumpman23 said:

. The widow actually retained much more terpy flavor and the high actually lasts a little longer. So IMO, Not trying to be a dick, but a lot of the hate in this thread has no merrit. Unless youve grown EVERY strain and pulled both early and late, your posts are nothing more than opinion, extremely far from proven facts. ]

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As some of us stated..we dont mind early. Early high can be very clear and speedy.
Saying we haven't harvested early is a silly thing to say. Anyone who has grown outdoors has pulled early at some stage, mainly due to incoming weather fronts.
You could of gotten the same high (ie no amber) with denser buds and a higher yield if left for another two weeks or so.

But its your grow- do what you feel like doing, just dont go hating on us debating and offering our opinions.

StoneyMcphatter said:

I only harvest early mate. But that's because I grow indica dominant strains. If you let them go to full maturity you will end up with some sleepy bud. A few hits and boom yer asleep. Yes it will be extremely potent if you let it mature but whats the point if you get knocked out every single time? Harvesting early gives me the up high that I like but with an added relaxed effect.

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come on guys the harvest window is NOT the same across the board..the early harvest and late is based off the window, its written the ideal harvest is half above half. personally I prefer early, ta get my ol' ass up and movin