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So, it's late nite 11-2-10, the results are in, Prop. 19 is defeated 52% to 48. Now what do you think happens? Will everything stay the same in your marijuana universe? Will the conservative "take-back" of america leave medical marijuana alone.?

Burger Boss i agree with your yes vote but keenly2 in the post above yours and nathenkings post below yours have the right attitude for this community of people we belong to. I have no doubt we would share a good time together given the chance. These no on 19 people are just trying to protect...

You're welcome. I have supported you all for many years, but you have always charged me too much, because you could. i once traded a five pound bucket of honey to a friend grower for a half ounce ( of excellent weed). I have a fresh card now and don't need you all anymore. I wonder how many...

Agreed nathanking and well said. I can live with this prop passing or failing. Seven (or is it eight) billion people on the planet that all want to get more and more. It just can't happen. I have always liked the peacefulness. the connected to life feelings i get from weed. I'm not afraid...

It is speculation and fear (on my part) but all your talk about capitulation to big business, infringement on your rights granted by 215, the future price of pot are speculation as well. The people at Norml seem to disagree with you on your speculations. I chose their legal opinion over yours...

The anti- 19 ad campaigns have already began, maybe you have seen some. You agree with them but for way different reasons, right? But you tout how you and all your friends and whoever you can convince will vote no. So be it. Join them. Now picture these same ads in the next election cycle with...

I appreciate the wave mustang. I joined here to get information for my first little grow ( i'm a older guy with a new mmj card) but somehow let myself get drawn into the prop 19 "debate". I received a few bites from the guard dogs on those threads so it's nice to just get a hello from someone.

Hey man i don't really know what you are talking about there. I abhor glenn beck and fear the conservative movement a bit. Keep up the good work, we will just have to see what happens in november and beyond.

I do realize that props 215, 36 and 19 are statewide initiatives and that was my point. Lobbying locally is great and commendable but until a majority statewide say yes not much happens. How far do you think SB 1449 would get if 36 hadn't passed?

I have said that your work and the work of many others is commendable but without a statewide vote what really happens? The smearing seems to be coming from you.

Did you lobby your local politicians to get prop 36 passed or did we 61% of voters pass it?

http://stash.norml.org/californias-prop-19-a-word-for-word-analysis

Right, if marijuana is legalized i toss my rights away. With your kind of logic you probably fight quite a bit.

I'm sure local lobbying is important and i commend you for it. But it didn't work in oakland or much of southern california or more than a few counties throughout the state. Back in 1996 when 56% of californians voted for prop 215 everything changed.

I'm voting yes on 19 so that non medical users have some rights.

a bit has changed in my conservative county already. First there were dispensaries, now there none. People have talked about southern california and the increasing restrictions there. Do you think that a new crop of conservative politicians that have a statewide mandate on marijuana will...

and a majority saying no to marijuana in november may well open the door to more and more restrictions on medical marijuana. we have a card now but we have to renew it and that is where the current system we all appreciate could be amended. a conservative backlash is already out there screaming...

I like that. Arcata is one of my favorite places. We'll be visiting there and Trinidad in october. My nearest dispensary charges 330 for top shelf, 235 for organic. But on my most recent visit i see they have installed a computer system that prints a receipt that shows your name, what and how...

I believe that the defeat of 19 will help the opponents of the existing system in california continue to limit dispensaries and access to dispensaries. If you don't feel the groundswell of conservative political sentiment in america you may be spending too much time in the garden. Laws can be...

After you watch those two videos which seems the most powerful to you? The one that says the revenues from marijuana sales will be good for california without trying to defend marijuana itself or the one with the scary soundtrack? Medical marijuana dispensaries are already being curtailed in...