11/13 Flowering light cycle - Recommended by DJ Short

mrgreen2015

mrgreen2015

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Ok so I borrowed this thread from another site but what do you guys think?

"Short said, and slowed down his voice: "For your bud cycle: 11 hours on, 13 off. OK? What will happen first and foremost is that you will see phenotypic expressions that you will never see with the 12/12."

What phenotypic expressions will show? Will it make my blueberry "blue" or is that just temperature control?
 
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Budzbuddha

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I run 18/6 veg .... 12/12 ( sexing / preflower / flower transition ) .... Then 11/13 ( mid / late flowering / harvest ) .

It seems to shorten harvest time a little but havent run a side by side. Some go to 10/14 for flowering too.
 
kmog33

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Some strains don't like it. 11/13 brings out more sativa phenotype expression of genes, generally more foxtailing. Faster finishing times, lower yield. He suggests it specifically for breeding not for growing.


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mrgreen2015

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Budzbuddha said:
I run 18/6 veg .... 12/12 ( sexing / preflower / flower transition ) .... Then 11/13 ( mid / late flowering / harvest ) .

It seems to shorten harvest time a little but havent run a side by side. Some go to 10/14 for flowering too.
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Thanks Budz, do you see any decrease in yield?
 
mrgreen2015

mrgreen2015

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kmog33 said:
Some strains don't like it. 11/13 brings out more sativa phenotype expression of genes, generally more foxtailing. Faster finishing times, lower yield. He suggests it specifically for breeding not for growing.
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Ok...so I have Blueberry in the 4th week of flowering. It's an indica and I am NOT breeding it. 12/12?
 
RM3

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If you enjoy couch lock, go with 12/12

I use a 10:30/13:30 flower cycle because I enjoy uplifting Sat highs and even the land race indicas I've grown do not couch lock. Nope uplifting, energetic highs and once you learn this it opens up a whole new world of growing because it is very true that different light timings bring out different genetic expressions. Like pretty much everything I grow creeps as well which I enjoy 8)

If ya read DJ's book, he talks about experimenting with different light timings 15 min at a time till you find a sweet spot. All the book reviews bitch about the fact that he did not share his sweet spot in the book. I openly share mine but also point out that yours might be different.

Yields are only affected if you are a light dependent grower, if you are a grower that understands all the elements combined and properly tweaked is what makes the plant thrive then yields will be good. How do you think I grow 20 inch colas with T5's ???

There is so much more you can adjust and tweak to alter genetic expression, it becomes fun to see how you can alter the look, smell, taste, high of different strains. It is also why there is a difference in the same cut grown by two different growers.

and now the evil plug LOL All covered in my books 8)
 
Vnsmkr

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RM3 said:
If you enjoy couch lock, go with 12/12

I use a 10:30/13:30 flower cycle because I enjoy uplifting Sat highs and even the land race indicas I've grown do not couch lock. Nope uplifting, energetic highs and once you learn this it opens up a whole new world of growing because it is very true that different light timings bring out different genetic expressions. Like pretty much everything I grow creeps as well which I enjoy 8)

If ya read DJ's book, he talks about experimenting with different light timings 15 min at a time till you find a sweet spot. All the book reviews bitch about the fact that he did not share his sweet spot in the book. I openly share mine but also point out that yours might be different.

Yields are only affected if you are a light dependent grower, if you are a grower that understands all the elements combined and properly tweaked is what makes the plant thrive then yields will be good. How do you think I grow 20 inch colas with T5's ???

There is so much more you can adjust and tweak to alter genetic expression, it becomes fun to see how you can alter the look, smell, taste, high of different strains. It is also why there is a difference in the same cut grown by two different growers.

and now the evil plug LOL All covered in my books 8)
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@RM3 whats the name of your books?
 
RM3

RM3

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BobCajun said:
No book on that site. Do you have it in e-book format? I might buy it if there was something to click on to download it. Just set up an account on Sels so you can sell stuff by credit card and let people DL it.
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No, there is no ebook or download, book is in a forum, with discussion in each chapter, I prefer it that way for several reasons
 
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