1BMM's CAVE....

lol hell yeah jfa. Magiver style. I started burning at the tender age of 12 lol you wouldnt believe some of the goofy pipes and bongs i made lol. I had a gravity bong that was made from a small fish tank once that was quite the knock out hahaha. Mega hits off that bitch. I dont think i could handle one these days. I shure try though

dam i started smoking when i was 13 i remeber getting burned out by 9 year olds when i was 14 i felt like i was a late bloomer good ol times

1st thing I ever smoked out of!

GreenBuddha619 said:

1st thing I ever smoked out of!

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Me too. I've had some pretty shitty DIY pipes and bongs myself back in the day.

I bought my 1st VW when I was 15 and my buddy and I would roll to Home Depot and True Value and fill our pockets with brass from the plumbing area so we could make pipes. I was driving, shoplifting and then smoking weed in the parking lot before driving back home and I didn't have a license yet, LOL. Good ol days...

I actually started smoking weed when I was 9 or 10 because I hung out with my older bro too much and he was into whatever drugs he could get his hands on. I quit for a few years but picked it back up in HS, quit again when my wife and I moved in together and now that I have my card I smoke again. I don't actually smoke very much, vape mostly. Edibles are my cryptonite though.

Actually I have a better one.

I was smoking a J when we gpt pulled over once in a G ride. Started sweating balls the second I heard the blip of the siren and gave it to dude in the back seat who ate the damn thing while it was still lit. My friend that was driving was cool as ice, confident like you said, and talked to the cop for a minute or two and we were on our way. He never asked for lic and reg or anything and couldn't see from where he was standing that there was no ignition, LOL. He just asked us if we were smoking pot and he said no. He said he thought he could smell pot while he was behind us and dude driving just says it must have been my Marlboro Light and laughed it off. The cop said ok and that was it.

Still can't believe I didn't shit myself.

Well fellas been hard at it today trying to get the hydro going. Im stuck the clones are ready to get transplanted, this fucking hanna meter has got me all confused lol.

I follwed the calibration instructions and it just aint doing what the manual says it should to calibrate. I opened up the ph buffer to try and set the ph range. The meter seems to be running a bit over what the solution packets call for. However its only by .20-30 pts of the whole number. Normal i dunno.

Just want to be sure i have it configured correctly before mixing a 55 gallon batch of nutes.

So looks like it will be tommorow before i make the tranplant. I did get all the air lines and airstones ran.

Been fucking with the meter issue half the day away. I guess i need to do my homework a lil better first.

1BMM

How do you mean it's not doing what the manual says? You put the probe in the 4.0 solution and use the included yellow screwdriver to dial it in. Rinse the probe and repeat the operation using the 7.0 solution. Meter should be ready after that. .2 and .3 points is significant, so you want to get your readings straight.

The saga continues. So lastnite I ended up figuring out how to calibrate the Hanna meter. Got that done then filled the 55 gallon res. PH was reading way low. 3.10. I added ph up by the teaspoon and nothing. The mother fucking ph just wont raise even after adding what i thought was an excessive amount of ph up.

Now as i added the ph up the ppm's start rising in the solution to 1500+ WTF is going on here.

So at about 2am I gave up and shut the meter off to see if the mixture would settle overnite.

Got back to work about 8 am and ph still sitting at 3.10. Ugghh this thing is really starting to piss me off haha.

I tried a sample straight tap water with the probes in to see if it would change the ph and nothing. Now i dont know if this fucking thing is reading correctly or what. I recalibrated again using 7.01 and 4.01 buffer, The meter simply says ok and goes back to measuring mode.

However after the last calibration the ph did adjust slightly up tp 3.89. I just dont trust the readings this thing is giving me.

So i dumped a whole batch of h20 and started over from scratch.

Now im getting ph readings around 4 and the ph up again aint doing shit. I decided to just go ahead and fill the dwc buckets. The ppms seem to be reading so i mixed in the Jacks classic nutes and calmag.

I went by the recipe on both bottles at 1/4 stregth. So to 55 gallons = 1 cup of calmag plus, 4.75 tablespoons of JC 20-20-20. this mix brings in a ppm of around 300. A good starting point for veg i think.

Ph was reading 4.01-3.98 so fuck it, Fillin these bitches up.




Regular tap water reading.


Res draining in to DWC garden


Im missing my soil

lol no worries ill get er down.


Pumps all hooked and ready to rock.


after a few hours of head scratching voila. Ph is still fuct. I fugure it should rise overnite as the plants feed. Well see. Im having my bro bring me over another ph meter to check the accuracy of mine.

Anywhows the plants. the left 3 front to back are Headband, Middle 9 Dog Kush, And far rt 3 Blue Widow.

I have a backup set of clones on stand by incase i fuck these up

We shall see how the fair tonite. 1BMM

ohhh, it's one of those auto-calibrating ones where you hold down the mod button to get into calibration mode. It's a good idea to check it against another meter. You won't miss soil. Your setup looks spectacular.

Thanks shnkrmn. What i dont get is that the meter says its calibrated according to the buffer solution, Yet when i add ph up it does nothing??? I dont get it.

Ok, first off the tap water cannot possibly be 3.1 PH to start with. It would burn your mouth if you drank it at that PH.

So, if I understand correctly there is some issue with your PH meter.

Water out of the tap should be 6.5-8.0 or at least between 5.0-8.0.

I agree. For once, blame the tool You KNOW you are changing the PH, so no change on the meter says the meter is defective (you DID take the cap off the probe, right? Just checking.)

Something has to be going on with your meter for sure. I mixed up nutes in 5 gallon batches sometimes I have to add as much as 15ml of PH Up. Just saying it might take a little bit to make the ph rise or lower depending what you need.

NLXSK1 said:

Ok, first off the tap water cannot possibly be 3.1 PH to start with. It would burn your mouth if you drank it at that PH.

So, if I understand correctly there is some issue with your PH meter.

Water out of the tap should be 6.5-8.0 or at least between 5.0-8.0.

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Yeah i know it cant be?? First cuple tap tests were reading in the high 8's. Thats before i calibrated it. I must have fuct it up somwhere sheesh. Or got a bunk meter?

shnkrmn said:

I agree. For once, blame the tool You KNOW you are changing the PH, so no change on the meter says the meter is defective (you DID take the cap off the probe, right? Just checking.)

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Yes took the jimmy hat off shnkrmn. I dont know man it reads any other change just fine. But when i turn it off for awhile and back on again it will start out high 6s and go down from there almost like its going to a set point or something. I really dont know im ???? mind boggled. Going to contact hanna and see wtf the deal is. For know im going to pick up some paper litmus strips and use that to ph.

GreenBuddha619 said:

Something has to be going on with your meter for sure. I mixed up nutes in 5 gallon batches sometimes I have to add as much as 15ml of PH Up. Just saying it might take a little bit to make the ph rise or lower depending what you need.

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Could be the ph up is bunk too?? ph down made dramatic changes before i calibrated. I may have fried the probe?? Ughh this is killing me haha,

I have been feeding my plants to date with the same tap water and getting great results. So im not overly concerned, And last check just 5 min ago the plants are loving it in the garden. Root growth lol right before me eyes no bullshit. I put them in a few hours ago none had roots coming out off the net pots. All DO !!!! NOW good deal

Now i am feeding nutes that are not commoly used in a hydroponic setup. Jacks Classic 20-20-20. It used by local florist and sweared by by some. Very cheap to buy and a premium product. It is a chemical based nutrient and designed for plants to readilly uptake the nutes within. To my understanding it lacks calmag or it would pass as a hydro nute. Hence the calmag plus in the diet.

This is going to be a feeling game for awhile till I get the rains on the EC or PPM. I dont know which is better.

Anyways going to rock it out win or lose. We shall see my friends



1BMM

I would go back and carefully read and follow the calibration instructions. Look for something that you didnt read or understand before.

Typically you use 2 solutions of ph 4.0 and 7.0 to calibrate a good meter. There are other more basic 1 solution tests for other meters.

If you still have problems you may want to return the meter to the store for replacement.

Yep think im going to contact hanna and get some tech support. In the mean time I picked up a ph test kit at the local pet store and checked my tap waters ph first. The kit i got only ranges from 6 to 7.5 my tap was over the 7.5 im sure. Now that i think of it when i first started playing with the meter before i calibrated ( or more like fucked it up) the meter the tap was reading in the high 8's.

Needless to say the plants are sitting in the high ph solution. Im going to let them sit for a few days till they get some roots before pumping the mix out and adjusting. Ive been cloning in the same tap water for a few years and done a ok so far. I know they probaably arent getting all the nutes at the range of the ph so i will be adjusting very soon.

I let them go all day under the 2 600 MH a few look a lil droopy. I think they just may be a lil shocked from the sudden eviro change. Temps got up to 85 to day which is about the highest im comfortable growing in.

Ill keep yall posted. Peace 1BMM

I was just wondering, how tall do you expect your ladies to get? When I have some extra money I want to try a 5 gallon DWC set up but every time I see those buckets they look like they might be too tall for my tent....

How's the ph working out? Get anything accomplished by talking to Hanna tech support over the phone/net? Did you get your buddy to loan you a tester that works? I bought mine off ebay for like $25 seems to be working ok but took like 2 weeks to get and I had some issues with ph burn on my babies. Definately something they can recover from if you get it fixed quick enough!

I use mad farmer ph up & down liquid cost me like $10 a bottle of each. Like I said sometimes takes me like 15 mls per 5 gallons to get it to around 5.8 so definitely check the ph up & down you are using with some reg h2o and then add each testing with a reliable ph meter to see if they both are good. Don't want those babies to burn!!!

Hopefully everything is working out.

bajafox said:

I was just wondering, how tall do you expect your ladies to get? When I have some extra money I want to try a 5 gallon DWC set up but every time I see those buckets they look like they might be too tall for my tent....

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Well baja i dont expect them to get more than a few feet tall as im going to strech a screen across the canopy and weave the new shoots in and out till i got a scrog. Then switch to 12/12. Height issue not a problem with this method.

GreenBuddha619 said:

How's the ph working out? Get anything accomplished by talking to Hanna tech support over the phone/net? Did you get your buddy to loan you a tester that works? I bought mine off ebay for like $25 seems to be working ok but took like 2 weeks to get and I had some issues with ph burn on my babies. Definately something they can recover from if you get it fixed quick enough!

I use mad farmer ph up & down liquid cost me like $10 a bottle of each. Like I said sometimes takes me like 15 mls per 5 gallons to get it to around 5.8 so definitely check the ph up & down you are using with some reg h2o and then add each testing with a reliable ph meter to see if they both are good. Don't want those babies to burn!!!

Hopefully everything is working out.

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With my limited time im getting things done. Today im going to pump out the buckets and adjust the ph and PPM. Will let yee know. Peace.

I've been following this thread and a couple others thare doing scrog soz I can maybe learn something. I want to see about putting a screen up along one wall in my vert room but I see soo many different methods and screen types it get's a bit confusing as to what will work the best.

Have you done a scrog before? What will you be using for your screen?

I was thinking of either using some mesh that's made for stucco (metal lath or also called chicken wire) or putting together a wood frame and weaving some string or ribbon across it to make a grid. What are you're thought's bro, advantages and disadvantages of each?