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The first time I smoked Grandaddy Purple (6-7 years ago) it became my favorite, and now every time I find some its like a blast from the past. However, I don't get to smoke it often living in Texas. I'm moving to Colorado this friday, so hopefully I will be able to find a cut of it.

That NL#5 sounds epic! Keep growing great meds Collective

What if...just for shits and giggles...one were to cross a Kush with NL5, then back cross it a few times with NL5. It would have Kush in the name, but be mostly NL5. I'm thinking I need to find a good strong NL5 stud. I'd breed that little fucker with everything I can get my hands on. Thanks guys, as if I don't have enough on my plate. Now you all have me obsessing on getting some old NL going. I'm sure glad I'm not the only old grower to think it may be better than the new gear out there.

Don't even bother crossing it. Just put it on the street named Aurora Borealis and everyone will be none the wiser.

I just watched an episode of Entourage where thier favorite strain Aurora Borealis went "Extinct" bringing back the best of the old school. I"m from the east coast where "kush" isn't the gold standard. Is it just me or can you call anything that is good a "kush" out in Cali and everyone is pumped because it's "kush" for a while here in the north east at least, all high grade was "haze" most of which probably didn't have a bit of actual Haze in it.

collective gardener said:

I know exactly how you feel. When I visit my friends in Idaho that first bong hit of NL5 is like a visit from an old friend. I think the high is as powerful as anything out there today. It also has a great "up" quality without causing anxiety. I was specifically told by a commercial growing buddy not to grow anything with an NL flavor to it because the market is sick of it. I have a feeling if you got a killer NL pheno and called it "Moondust" or something else new and exiting, people would gobble it up.

I'll ask around and find out which seed bank has the best original NL's. Hopefully, someone has been continuing to refine it. Shit, now you got me wanting to put some in the grow. I may have to take an early trip to Idaho. I wonder if a cut could be sent overnight, strapped solid with a lightstick. Hmmmmmm....

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I would say yes a cut could be overnighted if night with a lightstick then one of those tap lights(HINT HINT GET IT GET IT GET IT)

and thanks for your idea about the hose clap never thought of the and have been sitting with razor blade in one hand scissors in other trying to scrape the two and not cut myself.

AndyK said:

Don't even bother crossing it. Just put it on the street named Aurora Borealis and everyone will be none the wiser.

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It's sad to say that you're probably right. As obsessed as people are with nemes, I bet most of them couldn't match a name with a bud in a blind test. It's been so long since NL has been popular, many youngins would probably be trying it for the first time. I know that when I was growing it, no other weed made me as happy as the NL. I could have pounds of other strains, but when my NL bag was getting low I felt like I was running out of weed.

Anyways, we've about beat this horse to death, unless someone has some more info like Kitty about a breeder who's working with it. It's safe to say, we all love it.

I'm sorry I haven't started the inductive light test yet. We've been trimming the past few days and it looks like we'll be trimming for a few more. Once we're done, I'll have Helper D set up a test station and pick out a couple plants for the test. I know alot of you are curious to see how this one goes. I know I am. If these things work as they claim, I may have found my new light source for blooming. For veg, we'll have to get some 400 watt inductives and test them against the Hortilux Daylight Blue Metal Halide. I don't have high hopes that the inductives are going to be able to keep the node spacing as tight. But, we'll see. Thanks for everyone's patience.

NorthernLights#5 said:

I would say yes a cut could be overnighted if night with a lightstick then one of those tap lights(HINT HINT GET IT GET IT GET IT)

and thanks for your idea about the hose clap never thought of the and have been sitting with razor blade in one hand scissors in other trying to scrape the two and not cut myself.

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I'll see if my friends are up to packing one up for me.

Helper D took too big a vapor blast of the scissor hash tonight and was coughing and slinging drool for 5 minutes. It was so funny that I took a pic. I wish I could post it, but it shows his red face and watering eyes too good. I was damn near pissing myself laughing at him.

collective gardener said:

A quick update:

We transplanted 6 plants that were in 5 gallon pots into 10 gallon pots. Theye were only in the 5's for 9 days yet the roots were packed in pretty tight. We're using a coco/perilite mix.
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We're running a couple different kinds of halides to see what works best for us. The Hortilux Daylight Blue gives the tightest node spacing. The Sun Pulse Pulse Start 6.4k is a little brighter and penetrates deeper into the canopy for a little "thicker" growth. I'm thinking of using the Daylights early on, when the plant is small to really pack the nodes in, then moving them under the Pulse Starts for the rest of the veg time.

I'm using Digilux HPS. They're brighter than the Hortilux HPS and were designed for digital ballasts. I have 6 Hortilux's from a previous grow and may use them for our bare hanging bulb experiment.

None of these bulbs are cheap. In fact, they're pretty much the most expensive bulbs out there. However, if they give us just 5% better growth than a cheap bulb, theye pay for themselves many times over. I just can't see skimping on lamps in an indoor grow.

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We put in a little 10,000 btu AC unit a few days ago. The exhaust ducting is plumbed into our main exhaust lighting manifold. This provides strong negative pressure where thr AC's exhasut hose ties into our 20' ducting run. I've found that the better these units can "breath" the better they work by far.
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The humidity has been quite low here. The new air conditioner doesn't help either. Here's a pick of our evaporative cooler and our little humidifier. When alls said and done, we'll need several of each.
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Several 6" vent holes are provided to facilitate air flow from the veg room to the flower room. The 36" attached ducting acts as a light block between the rooms.
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That's it for today. We'll put up a couple lights tomorrow to try and keep up with the explosive growth we're experiencing. Maybe we'll knock off early and try out the collective's new hash glass. Yipeeeee.

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first and for most yes i know this is an old ass post but any way

so I need a new bulb as its been about 6 months since i replaced mine and i went to hydro store bought the one the guy recommended. which is a ULTRA SUN 1000w HPS (very cheap 62$) so then i figured look on here to see what other have said and then thought of your and see that your using the digilux but were Im at they dont carry them but will be in LA for memorial day so figured i could grab some there any ideas were i could do that? (maybe shouldnt be asking you but since your using them i figured what was the harm)

Mattysville said:

I just watched an episode of Entourage where thier favorite strain Aurora Borealis went "Extinct" bringing back the best of the old school. I"m from the east coast where "kush" isn't the gold standard. Is it just me or can you call anything that is good a "kush" out in Cali and everyone is pumped because it's "kush" for a while here in the north east at least, all high grade was "haze" most of which probably didn't have a bit of actual Haze in it.

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Aurora Borealis was a Brothers Grimm version of norther lights #5 the was discontinued when BG went out of business.

well, you guys have me strain shopping so here is what i'm leaning towards so far: (just so's you can drool wif me....)
-pretty well anything by the aforementioned dr atomic (especially the atomic jam=atomic nl x blue and atomic haze=atomic nl x haze) - kind of a long haul right now but they do have some of his seeds at vsb
-soma's somango (you're gonna love this cg ->) jh x bks
-next gen's romulan or avalon
-(and maybe just for fun, and because it's one of my bestie' faves) .... wait for it..... durban poison. mmmmmmm.

i think at most i can afford 3 ten packs right now so even if i do get them it's *months before i finish them.... but i can taste *every one as i think about it. *literally drooling, omg*
which 3?

mellokitty said:

well, you guys have me strain shopping so here is what i'm leaning towards so far: (just so's you can drool wif me....)
-pretty well anything by the aforementioned dr atomic (especially the atomic jam=atomic nl x blue and atomic haze=atomic nl x haze) - kind of a long haul right now but they do have some of his seeds at vsb
-soma's somango (you're gonna love this cg ->) jh x bks
-next gen's romulan or avalon
-(and maybe just for fun, and because it's one of my bestie' faves) .... wait for it..... durban poison. mmmmmmm.

i think at most i can afford 3 ten packs right now so even if i do get them it's *months before i finish them.... but i can taste *every one as i think about it. *literally drooling, omg*
which 3?

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Have you ever tried Dutch Passion Power Plant? Not Pure Power Plant mind you. If you get a good pheno it is absolutely incredible, amazing yields, mongo frickin baseball bat colas and a flavor all its own (aniseed/pinesol/listerine) . I used to have a killer producing pheno but I lost it several years ago Highly recommended.

Damn, now that I think about it, I actually still have one seed left that I'd half forgotten about. Hmmm....

Wll I'm gonna say romulan. One of my alltime favorite strains. My next purchases won't be for a while (unless there's a promo that's too good to pass up) and mynext ones will be: cinderella99 and romulan.

I used to get bud from a hippy that's long gone now but I've nev er to this day had anything as good, and he is my inspiration as well as my 1st grow role model. The first time I ever did what D did (almost threw up) was my first time smoking real chronic, trainwreck, and my first time hitting a bubbler. Speant ten mins gagging over the sink.

And out of all the high end superbuds I ever got from him romulan, and snowcap romulan were the most reverred and enjoyed. He always had different amazing strains, now of which I'm sure he had grown many of them. Some he crossed and named himself, "elvis" was the one I remember most. And 007

NorthernLights#5 said:

first and for most yes i know this is an old ass post but any way

so I need a new bulb as its been about 6 months since i replaced mine and i went to hydro store bought the one the guy recommended. which is a ULTRA SUN 1000w HPS (very cheap 62$) so then i figured look on here to see what other have said and then thought of your and see that your using the digilux but were Im at they dont carry them but will be in LA for memorial day so figured i could grab some there any ideas were i could do that? (maybe shouldnt be asking you but since your using them i figured what was the harm)

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The Digilux is brighter and should last longer with a digi ballast than a Horti bulb.

What was the purpose of all the quotes?

mellokitty said:

well, you guys have me strain shopping so here is what i'm leaning towards so far: (just so's you can drool wif me....)
-pretty well anything by the aforementioned dr atomic (especially the atomic jam=atomic nl x blue and atomic haze=atomic nl x haze) - kind of a long haul right now but they do have some of his seeds at vsb
-soma's somango (you're gonna love this cg ->) jh x bks
-next gen's romulan or avalon
-(and maybe just for fun, and because it's one of my bestie' faves) .... wait for it..... durban poison. mmmmmmm.

i think at most i can afford 3 ten packs right now so even if i do get them it's *months before i finish them.... but i can taste *every one as i think about it. *literally drooling, omg*
which 3?

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I just have to check out this Dr Atomic fella. Anyone workinbg with NL is my hero. NL x Haze? Well, depending on the Haze, could be epic. Yes, Kitty, Somango sounds great. My new mission is to check out Dr Atomic. See what his deal is. LOL

collective gardener said:

I just have to check out this Dr Atomic fella. Anyone workinbg with NL is my hero. NL x Haze? Well, depending on the Haze, could be epic. Yes, Kitty, Somango sounds great. My new mission is to check out Dr Atomic. See what his deal is. LOL

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He's legit, I'd for sure recommend the Atomic NL.

I was just quoting when you wear talking about your HPS bulbs and the rest of the stuff came with it.

yaaaayyyyy i finally figured out multiquoting~ (*kittydance*):

Wolverine97 said:

Have you ever tried Dutch Passion Power Plant? Not Pure Power Plant mind you. If you get a good pheno it is absolutely incredible, amazing yields, mongo frickin baseball bat colas and a flavor all its own (aniseed/pinesol/listerine)

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it rings a bell but i don't think i've ever "met" her... (or if i did i didn't get a chance to get acquainted...)
i do want something with high pinene/pineol levels (the memory terpene) so that might be perfect. and dutch passion just also happens to be the home of durban poison.... i usually try to support the local breeders but durb is like my bestie' nl5 - she's from s. africa and the flavour takes her *home*... she's had a rough year and deserves just that sort of treat. and i am just the friend to capitalise on the fact that durb hasn't been popular here since the 90's (or, for that matter, ever - sativas are a hard sell, commercial-strain-wise).

TheLastWood said:

Wll I'm gonna say romulan. One of my alltime favorite strains. My next purchases won't be for a while (unless there's a promo that's too good to pass up) and mynext ones will be: cinderella99 and romulan.

I used to get bud from a hippy that's long gone now but I've nev er to this day had anything as good, and he is my inspiration as well as my 1st grow role model. The first time I ever did what D did (almost threw up) was my first time smoking real chronic, trainwreck, and my first time hitting a bubbler. Speant ten mins gagging over the sink.

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lol, were we ALL inspired by some old hippy? mine taught me everything i know about strain id - before i'd ever touched a live cannabis plant. it was through him that i met some of the most amazing characters (well, some of them weren't what you'd call "amazing" in real life, they were just some nice, laidback stoner dood) (although some were pretty amazing) - i met romulan joe through him when he passed through town. it took me a period of days to realise who he was (i was still a youngpunk who didn't know jack, like the fact that 'romulan joe' is a household name among stoners), "hey old hippy buddy, why do you keep calling that guy "romulan"?... is he a big trekkie or something?" .... *facepalm* "DUUHH....."

between the two i'm leaning towards the avalon just because it's the less popular of the 2 (AND because the laughganis are making me want an afghan strain again).... i have a 'thing' about paying top dollar for seeds of something that i know if i wait long enough and search wide enough i'll find as a nice clone (like good ol rommie ).
the first time i almost puked from coughing on smoke was "champagne" (a hashplant double backcross i think).... i think it was just underflushed though: champ is about as commercial as it gets here, AND, flavour-wise, it's not a particularly good memory for me. it was that "choke you right at the back of your mouth" tingly feeling, which, in retrospect, was my eye-opener to 'clean' growing...

collective gardener said:

I just have to check out this Dr Atomic fella. Anyone workinbg with NL is my hero. NL x Haze? Well, depending on the Haze, could be epic. Yes, Kitty, Somango sounds great. My new mission is to check out Dr Atomic. See what his deal is. LOL

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dr atomic is friggin amazing (one of MY heroes for sure). he's older'n the dirt he grows in, and travels the world seeking 'new' strains. and by 'world' i don't mean he goes on an annual seed-buying trip to europe, i mean afghanistan, myanmar, thailand, places like that. dude has friggin nepalese temple balls in his collection. the aforementioned 'thai lights' is apparently 'something he picked up in thailand' crossed with atomic nl. he uses the word "cerebral" in conversation more than anybody i know. and SUCH a sweet dude to boot.

he wrote a schpiel for c/c a few years ago (but he covers his travels from the 60's on... let's see if i can find it...) there:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4762.html

Wolverine97 said:

He's legit, I'd for sure recommend the Atomic NL.

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***DROOOOLIIIINNNGGG*** --'nuff said

mellokitty said:

yaaaayyyyy i finally figured out multiquoting~ (*kittydance*):



it rings a bell but i don't think i've ever "met" her... (or if i did i didn't get a chance to get acquainted...)
i do want something with high pinene/pineol levels (the memory terpene) so that might be perfect. and dutch passion just also happens to be the home of durban poison.... i usually try to support the local breeders but durb is like my bestie' nl5 - she's from s. africa and the flavour takes her *home*... she's had a rough year and deserves just that sort of treat. and i am just the friend to capitalise on the fact that durb hasn't been popular here since the 90's (or, for that matter, ever - sativas are a hard sell, commercial-strain-wise).

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Durban and Power Plant both hail from the same general area in S. Africa, and I like Durban for sure but PP is a very similar electric type of high and kills the durban in the yield dept. I would assume their genetic backgrounds are similar since they come from the same general area, but I could be wrong about that. I have heard/read people complaining that DP's version of durban is nothing like the original, but sadly, it's the only one I've tried.

well, shit. neither of the DP-carrying seedbanks i support has PP in stock right now (one of them has durb tho.)
shit shit shit i've just realised i can't remember if it was sensi's "durban" or dp's "durban poison" that she preferred.... (she used to work with seeds so she's as much of a strainwhore as i am) -- similar traits/timing/yields... $60 price difference. hmm.

it has certainly come down in price (LOTS of stuff has come down in price - i remember when jh seeds were close to $400), let's hear it for a healthy competitive market! (i know i know there are all sorts of pitfalls to the current canna seed market structure as well but none of them stacks up compared to that dirty M word - monopoly)

Sorry chica, can't help you with that. I haz one seed left and it is MINE I SAY! Though I may have to crack it now (if it's still good, it's been several years), I've also got a small assortment of Jamaican strains that I got at a ganja plantation a few years back that have been calling me lately. Purple skunk (delicious), lambsbreath (nuf said) and an unknown sativa that grew very long fat uber stinky colas. Didn't get a name for that one other than "one tree herb". I need to make some space...