250-500w cfl cupboard grow - 5 fem strains (indica dominant!?)

Thought id post the rocklock up, as i needed to move her. Shes now at the back left of the cupboard where the LA confidential was, the LA just aint branching and was taking up a really precious place, but the rocklock needs it more. I think she will love her new home


watering so far:

- Planted these girls straight into 2gal smartpots, 1st week i watered once i think
- Once they got to about a foot tall, ive had to water twice a week on the same days every week so it works pretty well.
- They seem to be taking up around 2L each every watering, so watering doesn't take tooooo long
- At the moment, i feed on a sunday and water with molasses on a wednesday and i think thats what im gonna be doin till the end

Rocklock Day 37
L-R: Rocklock, ak48, sour kush, La confidential
Ak48, you have already been introduced lol looks like shes lovin her 5ml/gal grow natural and 5ml/gal bloom natural, mollases and about 7-8 dropletts of pk13/14 - seems to have got puffier already :-/
Just some training i did to the two main tops of the white rhino. She was gett really tall and almost at the light, so i celotaped some bamboo to the hood, and used some wire to bring them to the back of the reflector away from the bulb (its about 4" away now and the tops can grow up into the back of the reflector! result
The sour kush, i helped all teh lower stalks past the fan leaves and just turned her round so most of the bud sites are facin the bulbs, shud have set them up now for a decent flowering....fingers crossed!
LA confidential, buds are right along the main stem, and they are even showing signs of thc formation in these really early buds....i hope i get a good pheno
Bit of bud i picked off the ultra lemon haze main bud ive been curing, its gettin more and more flavourful, i can really notice the ripeness comin out this week. Id love results like these again!

Day 41

happy familyak48white rhinoLA confidentialrocklocksour kush

- the rocklock is starting to bud up quite fast now, i think its her time. She got a tiny dusting of thc and it smells like sugar. The white rhino continues to stretch but the buds are getting bigger too, so shouldnt be too long, i guess i got one of teh sativa dom phenos lol, the sour kush is still holding back. The ak48 is frosting up, she actually smells like freshly cut mango mmmmmm but showing an N deficiency on fan leaves. The LA confidential i dont recommend for 12/12 growers. Im not sure if i should just get it out of there so teh other get more space. She really does not look like a heavy yielder, the breeders recommend extended veg time to maximise yeilds, so i was kinda stupid to pick her for 12/12. If she doesnt show a massive increase in bud formation in the next week ill have to get rid of her. She literally has about 4-6 bud sites within the top 7", and they are each swelling up, but hugging the main stem, not even trying to stretch out even 1cm

Ill update on wednesday or thursday this week if there are any big changes.

Daaamn Low, Things starting to look very foking YummY pretty soon you'll have a jungle going on in there. Low very nice job buddy!
That AK in the 2nd picture looks very interesting, should get some nice smoke out of that girl

aCiDjEsUs said:

Daaamn Low, Things starting to look very foking YummY pretty soon you'll have a jungle going on in there. Low very nice job buddy!
That AK in the 2nd picture looks very interesting, should get some nice smoke out of that girl

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yeah shes frosting up alot already, so im lookin forward to seeing how she fills out and matures over next few weeks. I didn't notice earlier but i just re-checked the room and the ak48 is showing N deficiency in the fan leaves from middle to top of the plant. I dont think it would be light bleaching, so mayb she will perk up after wednesdays feed

The ak48 has got yellowing leaves from mid way to the top of the plant. All the new leaf growth inside the buds is healthy and green. I thought it could be the light bleaching or N def, so i lowered her by about 5-6" yesterday and she had a feed today including some veg feed. So hopefully she will be better by tomorrow....? Not sure how long it takes for them to recover from these problems tho, any ideas? If she aint got better by tomorrow ill take a pic and post up

Looking good M8.

I had a few leaves get a bit yellowish on the bottom of a couple of plants, I upped the nutes a bit and after 4 days, I see no more yellowing, so it could take a few days before you see a change, so give her a little time and she will speak to you

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice

ASMALLVOICE said:

Looking good M8.

I had a few leaves get a bit yellowish on the bottom of a couple of plants, I upped the nutes a bit and after 4 days, I see no more yellowing, so it could take a few days before you see a change, so give her a little time and she will speak to you

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice

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nah tha yellowing started on the top half, the top is yellow and the bottom still has green colour to the fan leaves :-/ i gave her some N feed yesterday but no sign of progress yet hopefully you are right and she just needs time, its frustrating coz shes at the point where she is really packing on flower weight and she aint gettin the sun she needs for it!! check these pics out..... cheers

HELP!! AK48 yellowing leaves (top half of plant)

She is in the middle of the two light, she was pretty close on monday (about 4" away from each, direct in the centre) but i lowered her about another 4" on tuesday. She has no signs of improvement. No leaf clawing, no spots or other problems, just yellow. Ambient temps areound 23oC (73.4oF).
Could have been just light bleaching??? How long do they take to recover from light bleaching? Any tips for a healthy recovery? I was thinking of mayb a few drops of superthrive in the next watering for whatever good that might do if any lol
All plants were fed yesterday 50:50 veg:bloom organic feeds, pH adjusted to 6.5 as always, the AK48 is not the biggest plant in the cupboard, so why would she show N deficiency before the like of the white rhino monster or the rocklock which is exactly the same size??
Left to right: from top to the bottom = yellow to green
New growth is green, but fan leaves lookin so poorly

lowblower said:

HELP!! AK48 yellowing leaves (top half of plant)

View attachment 2494330She is in the middle of the two light, she was pretty close on monday (about 4" away from each, direct in the centre) but i lowered her about another 4" on tuesday. She has no signs of improvement. No leaf clawing, no spots or other problems, just yellow. Ambient temps areound 23oC (73.4oF).
Could have been just light bleaching??? How long do they take to recover from light bleaching? Any tips for a healthy recovery? I was thinking of mayb a few drops of superthrive in the next watering for whatever good that might do if any lol
All plants were fed yesterday 50:50 veg:bloom organic feeds, pH adjusted to 6.5 as always, the AK48 is not the biggest plant in the cupboard, so why would she show N deficiency before the like of the white rhino monster or the rocklock which is exactly the same size??
View attachment 2494331View attachment 2494332View attachment 2494333View attachment 2494334 Left to right: from top to the bottom = yellow to green
View attachment 2494335New growth is green, but fan leaves lookin so poorly

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Low I think it's N def, had the same thing happen to me with the fruity auto looks the same, I just up'ed the nutes a bit and she bounced back within like 2 days.
Some yellowing is normal. The plant is directing energy and sugars to the buds from other parts of the plant. However, too much yellowing could mean a pH problem or possible a nute problem like Nitrogen Defeciency. But I know you're keeping an eye on pH so is more likely N def, maybe some more expirience growers can chip in on this issue.

cheers acid, i think your right. I mean it definitely looks like N def but just confusing why shes got it, especially now im using a different nute range, just more stress. I recently found ot in the organics section that using chem ferts even in small doses can kill most my soil bacteria and therefore no organic nutrient breakdown. So looks like another learning curve lol + rep

Low, Thank you buddy. In my exp. with N def. was that when I touched the leaves that were affected they fealt kinda like wet paper like soft and sh*t, kinda like when you over water your plants and they start to get all whipy and sh*t. I tried to explein it the best I could lol

So its been 4 days since the last feed and the AK48 is still showing no sign of replenishing her nitrogen deposits. Still yellow as a lemon. SO.....

I did some researching on the organics forum and got some good info about what could have gone wrong. Basically i should have never added the PK13/14 because its a pure salt fertiliser and would kill most my bacteria. I thought if i diluted it enough in the nutrient mix, it wouldn't cause any harm, but the evidence is in the AK48, shes showing extreme N deficiency; yellow leaves, red stems. BUT she is not drooping yet, she still has strength!! Good ol' girl.

Anyways, i also learnt that i should have been bubbling my nutrient mix to enrich it with O2. I thought that bubbling was just an extra, rather than a necessity, but it seems that my bacterial culture has been weakened from not bubbling it before applying to the soil. I didn't wanna bubble these nutes coz im growin in my room and my organic fertilizers literally smell like a cesspit, so bubbling a cesspit for 24hrs would have meant no girlfriend lol.

So i've decided that from wednesday (next feed) im gonna continue this grow using chemical fertilisers, as i used in my last grow. My NEXT grow im gonna be using an organic soil mix (i think these are termed 'super soils') and i will use a bubbler to add O2 to the bacteria/water/mollases before adding to the soil. So im still all for organics, i just messed it up this grow through lack of knowlwdge. But hey, u need to try new things to learn more new things!!

Hopefully i can rescue this grow. The AK48 is the only plant showing N deff, because she was the first to flower, i think the new leaves that grew out the buds drew all the N out the fanleaves (the ak48 buds still have green leaves). The other plants have no shown any N def yet because the buds have not filled out yet, so im expecting them to become just like the ak48 soon :-/

anyways, not much to say about the grow since the last update, things are pretty much the same the plants are all budding. The rocklock is buding up really nicely, not filling out yet but the budsites are well established now and shes gonna start packing on weight very soon! She smells like sugar and fruit, like kiwi or something. the ak48 still smells like mangoes. The la confidential smells like a floral choclatey hashey fragrance. the white rhino has no thc yet, nor does the sour kush

hope to be able to report back that everything gets better soon lol so tense.

cool thread subd. good luck

Without knowing too much about your grow (just skimmed through it) just wanted to add that its normal for plants to turn yellow during flowering, some more than others. If everything else is in order (pH, temps, right amount of water, nutes etc) then I wouldnt worry too much about it right now. Biggest mistake you could make is probably over reacting and adding too many nutes.

valuablevariable said:

Without knowing too much about your grow (just skimmed through it) just wanted to add that its normal for plants to turn yellow during flowering, some more than others. If everything else is in order (pH, temps, right amount of water, nutes etc) then I wouldnt worry too much about it right now. Biggest mistake you could make is probably over reacting and adding too many nutes.

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yeah your right about plants yellowing at the end of flower, but the ak48 isn't near ready yet, she has yellowed prematurely and on a large scale. I added some 1/2 stregth baby bio veg feed to todays watering though. She should have another 4 weeks of flowering yet! shes nowhere near ripe. Hopefully the feed today will give her some vigour back, but if not, then i'll leave her be...will post up results by friday!

Low friday is almost here

Day 51

The AK48 is starting to show green colour back to her upper fan leaves WAHEY! So she may have been stunted by 3-4 days coz of her N def, but either way i still love her. She smells great and the THC is really frosting up on her. Im gonna feed her again tomorrow, 1/2 strength again, plus some autoflower bloom nutes (should be fine for a 12/12 grow) and perhaps 1ml/gal of pk13/14.
THe other strains are doin great, especially the white rhino and rocklock. The sour kush is developing reaaaaaally slowly, im hoping she just explodes soon, does anyone have any experience with the reserva privada sour kush? And the LA confidential is frosting up really nicely. The buds are so small but so dense. I don't expect to harvest much off her but if her smoke is as good as its hyped up to be it will just be my personal stash to share for a special occassion.

AK48 - slowly recovering since last feed, still smells like fresh cut mango, getting reaaally frosty!
Rocklock - smells like vomit sprinkled with sugar mmmmmmm getting nice and frosty
Sour kush - hasn't developed much at all over the last 2 weeks - no THC yet HURRY UP!
White rhino - THC just starting to show - rubbed a lil bit of THC on a leaf and it smells fruity (don't rub the buds - the THC glands will rupture = less potent bud)
LA confidential - not recommended for 12/12 from seed, needs a long veg to produce more nodes - smells like chocolatey hash and dried petals
Group pic and a pic showing height adjustment lol was changing this every other frikin day last week. I think they have all settled now though

aCiDjEsUs said:

Low friday is almost here

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lol i couldn't resist! saw improvement in the AK48 so thought id post up the progress of the rest. Good times! Apart from nearly ripping my nail out my finger earlier today, and then slippin on a bit of plastic on the pathway and smashing my phone screen, today seems to be brightening up!!

lowblower said:

Day 51

The AK48 is starting to show green colour back to her upper fan leaves WAHEY! So she may have been stunted by 3-4 days coz of her N def, but either way i still love her. She smells great and the THC is really frosting up on her. Im gonna feed her again tomorrow, 1/2 strength again, plus some autoflower bloom nutes (should be fine for a 12/12 grow) and perhaps 1ml/gal of pk13/14.
THe other strains are doin great, especially the white rhino and rocklock. The sour kush is developing reaaaaaally slowly, im hoping she just explodes soon, does anyone have any experience with the reserva privada sour kush? And the LA confidential is frosting up really nicely. The buds are so small but so dense. I don't expect to harvest much off her but if her smoke is as good as its hyped up to be it will just be my personal stash for a special occassion.

View attachment 2504541View attachment 2504543AK48 - slowly recovering since last feed, still smells like fresh cut mango, getting reaaally frosty!
View attachment 2504553View attachment 2504551View attachment 2504552Rocklock - smells like vomit sprinkled with sugar mmmmmmm getting nice and frosty
View attachment 2504554Sour kush - hasn't developed much at all over the last 2 weeks - no THC yet HURRY UP!
View attachment 2504555White rhino - THC just starting to show - rubbed a lil bit of THC on a leaf and it smells fruity (don't rub the buds - the THC glands will rupture = less potent bud)
View attachment 2504549LA confidential - not recommended for 12/12 from seed, needs a long veg to produce more nodes - smells like chocolatey hash and dried petals
View attachment 2504546View attachment 2504547 Group pic and a pic showing height adjustment lol was changing this every other frikin day last week. I think they have all settled now though

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Low DaMn!! Dude!! Them girls looking so finee and getting that nice frost that we all love. They all look so nice man.

lowblower said:

lol i couldn't resist! saw improvement in the AK48 so thought id post up the progress of the rest. Good times! Apart from nearly ripping my nail out my finger earlier today, and then slippin on a bit of plastic on the pathway and smashing my phone screen, today seems to be brightening up!!

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WtF? Low buddy you got to be more careful lol, I hate when that happens ripping the nail off OUCH!! and it heals for ever..sorry to hear about your phone screen that right there would make me mad lol as for slipping and falling shit it happens to the best of us