250w HPS Club And Help Guide

brettsog

brettsog

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if i was you i would top them taller ones quite low down and clone the tops and let them root and then flip cos your gonna end up with some real leggy plants other wise and the lower bud sites will suffer for it. at least if you do that you will end up with more bushier plants rather than lots of stems. a 250w is shite at deep light penetration so....
 
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coolguy14788

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brettsog said:
if i was you i would top them taller ones quite low down and clone the tops and let them root and then flip cos your gonna end up with some real leggy plants other wise and the lower bud sites will suffer for it. at least if you do that you will end up with more bushier plants rather than lots of stems. a 250w is shite at deep light penetration so....
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i do agree!
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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Hey what's up!!

Sorry I haven't been on RIU for weeks, but really had the pressures of last year at Uni, and had to stop spending so much time on here.

Problem is I've dropped the ball on my current grow, and having huge leaf loss half way through flower. It looks like my plants have a Nitrogen def, as the leaves are getting pale veins, then going light green, yellow, then dark brown and crumpled up, but don't fall off for ages. The ones I took pics off close up were plucked from the plant.

They had some mag at the begginng of the week, and had a weak dose of it 3 weeks earlier. I'm usng 3 different nute ranges as an experiment (on seperate plants), and they all have the same problem.

They are Aurora INdica from Nirvana, and the other grow i have running, are blue mystic from Nirvana, and have some Nit and Phos def's, but no where near, and are much healthier. They are alos using the same 3 nute ranges, oh and soil.

Any thoughts what's killing my leaves??

On a positive note, you may remember me bitching about poor harvests, well my last 2 ladies provide 25 and 28g dry (each having a quarter share of 250w), and smoked and tasted lovely...Happy Days :)
 

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justperception

justperception

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brettsog said:
if i was you i would top them taller ones quite low down and clone the tops and let them root and then flip cos your gonna end up with some real leggy plants other wise and the lower bud sites will suffer for it. at least if you do that you will end up with more bushier plants rather than lots of stems. a 250w is shite at deep light penetration so....
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I was thinking about supercropping, would topping be better? My first grow, can someone shed some light on the matter why would one be better in my situation then the other?
 
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coolguy14788

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you need to remove some growth as the 250w light does not penetrate through leaves very well you want to have more of a level canopy instead of a tall plant unless your growing vert which you are not so chop all branches level at the bushiest part of the plant, let it heal for bout a week then flower also this gives you multiple colas instead of just one big top cola you'll have multiple big top colas. also when you take the growth away you have more roots than plant matter because they grow at about them same rate, so your plant can defiantly support your big buds with more roots per plant matter
 
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KandyCassie

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Someone please delete my profile, ahhhhhhh this site sucks, I searched rollitup.org an got comments saying this site sucked, I didn't think it did but my pics were ignored an deleted, I slaved over this shit, my advice is go for at least a 400w or its not worth the bother,an why you puttin 1000watt on, impressive but 250w for starter veg or the hard up, I quit growing. An you ain't pritty.
 
giggles26

giggles26

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Hettyman said:
Hey what's up!!

Sorry I haven't been on RIU for weeks, but really had the pressures of last year at Uni, and had to stop spending so much time on here.

Problem is I've dropped the ball on my current grow, and having huge leaf loss half way through flower. It looks like my plants have a Nitrogen def, as the leaves are getting pale veins, then going light green, yellow, then dark brown and crumpled up, but don't fall off for ages. The ones I took pics off close up were plucked from the plant.

They had some mag at the begginng of the week, and had a weak dose of it 3 weeks earlier. I'm usng 3 different nute ranges as an experiment (on seperate plants), and they all have the same problem.

They are Aurora INdica from Nirvana, and the other grow i have running, are blue mystic from Nirvana, and have some Nit and Phos def's, but no where near, and are much healthier. They are alos using the same 3 nute ranges, oh and soil.

Any thoughts what's killing my leaves??

On a positive note, you may remember me bitching about poor harvests, well my last 2 ladies provide 25 and 28g dry (each having a quarter share of 250w), and smoked and tasted lovely...Happy Days :)
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That's a major nitrogen deficiency hetty. I had a plant do that to me early on in flower and what causes it is the plant needs a lot more nitrogen then some others. Give it a healthy of dose of a complete NPK and it should get better in a week or less.

During flower they suck all the nitrogen out of the leaves and if there isn't enough nitrogen they will start to wilt and die off just like yours is doing.
 
LoopmantrA

LoopmantrA

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it's the final countdown




(zoom, in for better clarity,it's hi def.)
though i gotta admit, I've been cheatin'....Got me a 150w MH that's been on for the last few days,so guess I'm soon to be EX 250w clubber..
 
justperception

justperception

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coolguy14788 said:
you need to remove some growth as the 250w light does not penetrate through leaves very well you want to have more of a level canopy instead of a tall plant unless your growing vert which you are not so chop all branches level at the bushiest part of the plant, let it heal for bout a week then flower also this gives you multiple colas instead of just one big top cola you'll have multiple big top colas. also when you take the growth away you have more roots than plant matter because they grow at about them same rate, so your plant can defiantly support your big buds with more roots per plant matter
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Like this?
 

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Hettyman

Hettyman

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giggles26 said:
That's a major nitrogen deficiency hetty. I had a plant do that to me early on in flower and what causes it is the plant needs a lot more nitrogen then some others. Give it a healthy of dose of a complete NPK and it should get better in a week or less.

During flower they suck all the nitrogen out of the leaves and if there isn't enough nitrogen they will start to wilt and die off just like yours is doing.
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Yeah, I got the N def bit, but wasn't sure whether or not it was through N def, or mag def, preventing the plants from using the N that is there. Its been a real balls up this grow. I used a stronger soil mix, and didn't veg long enough for them to use up all the feed in the soil, and was scared of burning.

I bought myself 5 Buddha Cheese seeds today, and hopefully they will be ready to flip about the time these are chopped... won't be making the same mistakes again :)
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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ace720 said:
What you feeding them Hetty ?
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Yo Ace, how's goes it in the grow room? Well I hope!

My N def plants have been fed as so, and currently in week 5

1 @ Gold Label A+ B 0.5-1.5 weeks 2-4 flower, + 0.25 Mg and 0.25 PK just started - per litre
2 @ Hesi - Bloom 1-4ml, Phos Plus 1-2ml started week 4
2 @ BioBizz - Grow and Bloom 1-2ml, Topmax 1ml

All well within the feeding schedules.

This was the first time using All mix soil, replanted into 8 litre pots, vegged 1 extra week under CFL's, then flipped under a 400 (stil rocking my 250 tent though, don't worry :) ). I went cautious with the feed worrying about the stronger soil, and at one point, 2 plants had minor N claw early flower.

Really these are a right off, will produce a couple of zips from 5 plants under a 400 by my reckoning....Fail!! lol
 
ace720

ace720

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Yeah you'll definitely get a couple Oz's out a 400 :lol:
Hope it all gos well

My little plant is doing OK its still a baby tho so nothing exciting
I will start posting pics soon. I think I'm going to go to the store
And get me a good camera. I want to take some GOOD pics.lol
I'm tired of the fuzzy ones from my iPhone
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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I hear that. I was in the same boat for the first year or so on here, and had nothing but complaints about my pics, and was pissed off that they never did my ladies justice. Luckily my wife got a decent camera...I just have to remember to transfer them off straight away or she flips.

I was hoping for an OZ per plant, but def's as bad as they are, I'll be happy with anything a half each, which will get me through, but a real dissapoitment from a 400
 
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coolguy14788

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My random momma is going to go on my second shelf this next run with her babies above her doing 12 above like this grow and her down below here she is all LST and topped to got everything even. i need to keep her short as i will have maybe about 6" of vert space and got lot of horizontal space to train during stretching. i will post pics of the babies when they bounce back from rooting/finish rooting. I can't wait to do this!
 

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coolguy14788

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here are some pics i just took of the plants first set are purple afghan second set is pineapple last pic is all of course Just 9 more days till i chop chop chop!
 
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