250w HPS Club And Help Guide

spliffendz said:

I've got a mate called baiden at the gym and he grows haze

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I'd love to see his grows. I grow Blue Mystic (current) and Kaya Gold (popping beans now) and I have a Zkittles bean and an OG Kush bean which won't get planted until I have a male ready to go for pollination.

The local time is 8 am and I'm having coffee and cigarettes while checking the plants.

If you've noticed, I'm trying really hard to not call the plants she or he, just neutral terms because I don't actually know what the fuck they are yet.

...but that may change soon.

Plant #1 is almost due for a topping and I like to clone the apex. Once it's rooted, I flip it into flower and find out the sex.



I also noticed the genetics this morning of Plant #1. It has the fat and beautiful Indica leaves with a Sativa nine leaf blade count.



I do notice a bit of blade tip clawing on some leaves. I think I'll do the next feeding in a few days with just CaMg+ water.

Mutey is slowly improving day by day.



The poor plant suffered through alot because of my inexperience with Hydroponics and then continued to suffer when I figured out I was starving it from CaMg+.

Now that the issue has been addressed, I'm hoping for continued improvement.



The lower foliage is absolutely fuckered but the new growth doesn't look horrific.

I'm gonna keep plugging away, hopefully this thread will gain some more attention and people will see what a 250w can do.

Almost forgot to add a derp.

Pre-water update

Both plants are looking alright, as in not much change since yesterday.

Plant #1

Two days ago, I added CaMg+ and today the growth started back up again. The damage is still present but it hasn't spread so the issue must be addressed and sorted.



No new damage.



Now for Mutey.

The poor plant has seen some shit. It lived through a bad time and fought it's way back.



The colour has improved, the new growth is slow as fuck but I think I can fix that.

I've noticed the water uptake is slow as hell.

The damage from the rough handling and hydroponic accident will always be there but there is no new damage.



I'm about to give them both a big feeding, I wish I could get some help in here about feeding Mutey.

The pot is still heavy from the last feeding but it's a smaller plant compared to Plant #1, which is light as hell and needs a feeding.

I want to do a 'feed until 20% run off' but how would that work with Mutey?

I also picked up a soil test kit for pH, N,P,K and I'll test it pre-watering.

Last night I had a visitor, unrelated to my grow.

So I tested the soil pH, it came out to 6.0/6.5.

I mixed my GO nutrients and checked it's pH and it was 4.5/5.0.

I pH'd the nutrient solution to 6.5 and fed Plant #1 until I got about 20% run off.

I fed the same solution to Mutey and the soil was still damp and gave me 50% run off almost immediately.

Hopefully the lockout will clear with the pH balancing and Mutey will start drinking more

If anyone can offer thoughts, it would be appreciated.

I started the popping process of two Kaya Gold a week ago and the beans never popped. So three days ago, I started two more and they grew their tiny tails.

I set them in peat pucks just now.

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I got rid of the bear yesterday and nature replaced it with a Skunk.

...and now, back to the grow.

Batch 2 Plant 1 is doing very well, I have one set of nine blades on a leaf pair and they look beautiful.

On a whole, the plant looks like it needs something
but I can't for the life of me figure it out.

I did a soil run off test and the pH was extremely low. I'm not sure if that's normal. The soil pH test came back 6.0/6.5ish and the water is pH'd to 6.5 so why is the run off around 5.0-5.5?




There's a bit of clawing too.

Now on to the comeback kid!

Let's hear it for Mutey McPlanterson!





I'm very happy that Mutey has recovered so well from the shit I put it through. I still need to watch it closely so I can catch any issues that come up before they become major but as for physically fucking with the plant, I don't do that.

These next ones are the Kaya Gold photoperiods.

I'm hoping they survive since I don't have the greatest track record with seedlings.




Kaya Gold is a nice spicy change from skunky dope, gassy dope and fruity dope and grassy dope.

A lifetime ago, my buddy and I got desperate for a smoke and the only think available was a pressed male plant I had saved for a display piece. It was months dried and pressed in a plant press for all that the but we stuffed the leaves into a pipe and smoked the shiz out of it. It was one of the nicest smoothest smokes ever and still got us lit AF. The spicyness was preserved and reminded us of fireball whisky.

Then and now side by side.

I think these are taken about a week apart.

The first one is right after I transplanted from hydro to soil.

The time here is 8:30 am and here's how the plants are doing.

B2P1 is looking lush and green. There's some zebra striping of the top leaves but I think that's because their newer growth. If someone sees thinks it's a deficiency please for the love of God tell me.





Now on to Mutey

There has been growth by leaps and bounds. I believe it's starting to get root bound because it had a huge growth spurt after it was transplanted from hydro DWC to soil and then just stopped growing.

No new deficiencies, old damage hasn't grown either. Mutey never really 'green'd up'. It could be the Pheno, it could be a remnant of the trauma, it could be anything really. For all I know, the company might be passing off rando seeds as the ones I wanted.





...now for the new kids.

I'd like to officially introduce B3P1 and B3P2 (Batch 3 Plant 1&2)

I was slightly confused by the brown stem. I only remember ever seeing green ones but this is a unique strain that is closer to a landrace than I thought. A genetically stable cross of Master Kush x Skunk #1 and Northern Lights, Kaya Gold should be a spicy delight that's different from any of the above. Originally created by Nirvana seeds, now photoperiod seeds have gone the way of the dodo.

B3P1


B3P2



I'm looking forward to these babies because I'm fucking sick of skunky and gassy tasting weed.

Hi, your plants look fine in soil. In hydro you have to have TDS (or EC meter) pH meter and good quality nutrients. I recommend General Hydroponics Flora series to start with. If you are using RO or distilled water you must add Ca and Mg for each feeding and in hydro you're always feeding. I run 50/50 coco/perlite because I don't have to worry about keeping pumps running like I did when I was in NFT rails. You had a classic Ca and Mg deficiency. Anyway keep up the good work, things look fine for you now.

curious2garden said:

Hi, your plants look fine in soil. In hydro you have to have TDS (or EC meter) pH meter and good quality nutrients. I recommend General Hydroponics Flora series to start with. If you are using RO or distilled water you must add Ca and Mg for each feeding and in hydro you're always feeding. I run 50/50 coco/perlite because I don't have to worry about keeping pumps running like I did when I was in NFT rails. You had a classic Ca and Mg deficiency. Anyway keep up the good work, things look fine for you now.

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Yea, live and learn. Hydro DWC isn't for me just yet but I'll work up to it once I get my shit together so I can do it properly.

I just picked up granulated dolomitic lime to tide me over until my powdered dolomitic lime comes in. I did grab a tds/ec meter from Amazon and it arrived. I guess the only thing left is proper Hydro nutes and I'll try it again.

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B2P1 is big AF today. I have to transplant this into a pail but all my amendments aren't in yet.



I'm still waiting on my powdered dolomitic lime, the Bloodmeal, extra pails and other stuff. I do have granulated dolo lime I could use and top dress the rest but ain't nobody got time fo that!



I'm not a huge fan of the new growth because it looks rough but I've recovered from worse.

I wish I had an old coffee grinder to powder the lime I got.

Now on to the rising star of the show, MUTEY!



Mutey is my success story for now. It recovered beautifully from the hydro dwc. At first I was worried and I used every bit of knowledge I have learned over the years and tapped into the community to give this plant it's best chance...and it worked.

The plant looks smaller than B2P1 but the soil level is lower by the exact amount of the height difference. I need to fix that with the next transplant.



The tips will always look toasted, the leaf spots will never go away but overall the plants are healthy.

I do need to fix the CaMg issue permanently and hopefully the lime will address that.

This brings us to the babies.

B3P1


B3P2


Both the kids are Kaya Gold. B3P1 looks strong and healthy while B3P2 is starting out with a slight leaf disadvantage. I'm sure it will recover well.

Over all, there doesn't seem to be much new growth or new damage. As expected, the existing damage will remain.

I'm hoping to transplant all four today. B2P1 and Mutey will go into pails and the kids will go into solo cups.

Thanks for watching, see you tomorrow.

Todays update would have been brought to you by mice but that little shit factory got snap trapped last night.

Today, we'll start off like usual with B2P1.

I rotated the pots yesterday and seen B2P1 was lopsided and had more (new?) damage that I thought.



I have to transplant today and I'll amend the soil with some lime so there's gonna be no more CalMg issues.



Now for my star, Mutey!

Mutey went through a touch of surgery yesterday.
I removed the 4 leaves with the worst CalMg defeciency damage and I hope it doesn't shock the plant too much when I transplant it.


(Knee included at no extra charge)

I'm curious to see how well Mutey performs when it has enough soil to speed it's toes out. Right now it's growing in half the soil of its sibling.



Both plants still need 'something'. Hopefully the transplant will help.

B3P1 and B3P2



There's not much to say about the Kaya kids. They're going into solo cups today and aside from that, one leaf on B3P2 has a touch of damage. Nothing to worry about bit it is there.

See y'all tomorrow!

Mid day update.

I got the transplant done.






Now for thinning a few leaves and lst.

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As usual, let's start the update with B2P1.

The transplant seemed to go well. I am noticing some defeciency on the new growth again and I'm guessing it's a CalMg issue.



Not too sure but it's fucking ugly

Overall, the plant seems to be in reletivly decent shape. The soil used is a peat based Promix with added Dolomitic lime. I did feed the plants yesterday with the the third week feeding schedule from the GO Box and a double dose of the CalMg in that line.

I don't mind that it's organic but the nutrient line says no need to pH the solution but the solution without being pH'd is 4.0. I pH the solution to 6.5 because I refuse to put 4.0 anything in a peat medium that already runs acidic.



More than likely, the plants are stunted. Not a huge deal, I'm trying to keep to my plan of a breeding crop instead of a smoking crop.



Tips are yellow (old damage), the colour is off. The plants are not happy.

I guess I'll figure it out somehow.

On to Mutey.

If you're just tuning in, Mutey (short for Mutation), was a plant that only grew a single baby leaf, followed by a single starter true leaf.



Since then it has grown fairly well aside from some glaring defeciencies. It's a light feeder and is probably stunted. There's CalMg problems and it's just a rough looking plant all over.

The common theme for this grow is CalMg issues. I don't think I'll use Promix again without some serious amedments long before I actually plant anything.



Ignore my slippered toes, I'm glad I decided to wear pants or toes might not be the only thing in the pic :embarrassed:



Neither plant seemed to mind the transplant too much. I wish I had of gotten black pails but it's what I had and my order from the hardware store still isn't in yet.

Now on to the Kaya kids.



Not much to report yet. The kids are still seedlings and they probably have no idea that they were even transplanted.

I'm getting a bit bítchy about the CalMg issues


Light: 250w MH in a cool hood
Medium: Amended peat based Promix w/Dolomitic Lime, Pearlite, Vermiculite
Water: Distilled
Temperature: 23°C - 25°C
Humidity: 50% - 60%
Nutrients: General Organics
Strains: Blue Mystic, Kaya Gold

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Starting off the update, B2P1

I have taken off a couple fan leaves to open her up, bent some side branches over and stapled them down.



The transplant worked well and the growth started up again. If I flipped now, it would probably get taller by a foot or more before finishing but I think I still want to bonsai the thing. Maybe learn to lollipop or scrog it.



I have to top it soon. I wanted to wait a week between causing stresses but if the growth has started up again, I might not have time. Over grown plants are a serious concern in a small grow tent.

Now for Mutey

I rotated the plant after I took a picture today. The leaves aren't as big as B2P1 but that's probably because of the hydro trial stunting.

It does have new growth so that's a bonus.



B2P1 has 9 nodes, Mutey has 7 and they're the same age.

No new defeciency damage today.

All things considered, the plants look unremarkable.

That's a good thing at the moment. No CaMg issues presenting.

The Kaya kids (B3P1 & B3P2)

What can be said about seedlings? They're sitting under a baby t5 grow light and were transplanted 2 days ago. They're growing properly but I wish the node spacing was better...or at least existent.



At this point, I'm just hoping they survive to the juvinile plant stage. They get CaMg'd, pH'd water so we'll see how they do.

Average temps are 21°C - 25°C and average humidity is between 50% - 60%.

Fuck I'm tired.

Todays update brought to you by a garbage eating dog.

Garbage eating dogs, the pooping and puking while you sleep part of a shitty morning.

Todays update will be short, I have to clean up the dogs mess.

B2P1



I rotated both plants, never bothered to check for anything or on anything. I added 1 gal of pH'd nutrient solution with extra CalMg+ to each one a few days ago so I don't expect them to need a feeding.

Mutey



Mutey is getting it's colour back. I think there's new growth too.

I might have Mutey and B2P1 switch spots so Mutey can get more light.

Lastly, the Kaya kids.



There's definitely some growth happening, the cups still feel reletivly heavy so I don't think they need a drink yet.

I did notice the margins of one kid are slightly upturned so I might raise the light a tad.

Thanks for watching, looking forward to some feedback.

Todays update is brought to you by early mornings.

Early mornings, ruining Sunday sleep in days everywhere.

Let's jump into B2P1 right away.

The plant is female! She showed her sex yesterday and my reaction was anger.

Silly response, isn't it.



I forgot that female sex will show when the plant reaches sexual maturity no matter the light schedule and I posted a panicked rant in plant problems.

Turns out I'm a stoner and I knew this information already and forgot it.

She's big and bushy, so I threw some plant staples on her top and bent it over.

Why? Because I could.



I want to top her but at this point, I need to keep reminding myself this is a seed grow and not a smoke grow.

Mutey



I'm hoping Mutey is male. No sign of pistils yet but dear god I need it to be a he.

Blue Mystic Photoperiod seeds seem to have gone the way of the Dodo and Tasmanian Tiger. Sure you can find Feminized and Autos but to pheno hunt, you need Photoperiod seeds and this strain is worth spending years Pheno hunting on.

The recovery of Mutey is just shy of being called a miracle. Above is today's picture, now take a look at where Mutey was not so long ago.



Two weeks, a transplant and additional CalMg helped Mutey go from deaths door to a decent plant.

Now for the shocker. The Kaya kids.



On a whim, I decided to add a bug sticky to one of the kids (B3P1) and I'm glad I did.

I thought there might be the occasional mosquito or a fruit fly in the porch but I was wrong....possible plant killing wrong.



Quite a few critters on there.

No damage to the plants but there could have been.

That's todays update, I need more coffee and sleep.

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Todays update is brought to you by Skunks....again.

Skunks, spraying dogs and confusing them since 11 pm last night.



I took the plunge into deforming my plants.



B2P1

The lady is going into some shit soon. I chopped a ton of fan leaves, bent the top over, staked down a bunch of bud branches and generally made the girls life rough to satisfy my need for control.

Since she showed sex, I feel now is the best time to start doing what I should have done all along but didn't. Folks on the site told me it was too early to do anything and made comments that discouraged my initial training. I should have ignored them.



I couldn't bring myself to chop the main cola site.

Mutey



Mutey got the same treatment and I found out how mutant Mutey actually was.

Turns out instead of it being a dual opposite pattern for its leaves, it's a tri-stem.



I'm about to give them a solid feed and forget them for a few days with only morning check ins happening.

I'm still hoping Mutey is a male despite the genetic abnormalities. Who knows, maybe if he turns out male and I breed these two, I'll get a nice batch of tri-cola Blue Mystics.

I wonder if I should start adding a very light dose of flower nutes to the veg nutrient solution. Just to make sure there's something in the soil for the preflowers to nibble on.

The Kaya kids.



These kids are ready to get transplanted into their first pots. New bugs are on the bug stickers.

Aside from that, I can already tell that these are going to be sativas. The long slender leaves hint at their genetics.

I'm gonna enjoy the shit out of those two.

Well I guess I should wrap this up. I still have to mix my 5 to 7 part nutrient solution, pH it and then apply it and hope I don't expose roots.

Thanks for watching.

Todays update is brought to you by shock and awe.

Shock and awe. Surprising folks since for fucking ever.

I checked on the plants today for a short time. Long enough to dust some soil off the lower leaves and be shocked at the plants resilience.

Yesterday, I defoliated alot of material off both plants and bent them over using plant staples.

They looked like shit and I felt they would be very angry.

Today, they're perky and B2P1 gained enough strength to lift her head back towards the light, staples and all.



Next up is Mutey.

Mutey is looking good as well. Twisted up, bent over and stapled down. Yet still looks well on to recovery.

The tri-branching at each node is a nice mutation and I wouldn't mind passing along that genetic trait.

I'm still hoping this is a boy.



The Kaya kids.

They're just plugging along and doing well. I waited a full month before transplanting the Blue Mystics. I'm not sure I want to wait as long for these ones.

The kids look to be strong and healthy.



Thanks for watching.