250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Doobieus

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g'day guys
just fired up my 250w again. should have some better temps this grow now that its colder over here
4 bagseeds,
2 bigger ones have been flowering under a CFL for about 4wks but was going too slow. theyve been bent and tied around the pots to keep em low.
other 2 were started outdoors for about 2wks.
and theres one seed that just coming out the soil.
:)
Cool dude, keep us updated. Plants are looking good from what I can tell, damn ballast lines lol.
 

trainwreckz

Member
Heres some pictures of my trainwreck plant. Its under a 250w and about 150w of CFL light. I was wondering what kind of yield you think she might get? I have had people say anywhere from 8oz all the way down to 1.5 oz. What do YOU think???
Please keep in mind that the camera is shitty as well as the photography due to a almost nonfuntional camera. These are what i could get out of it.




 

UnKlE SaM

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this has probably been asked already but is there a 400w club if there is i cant find one and if there isnt im an idiot...
 

trainwreckz

Member
and my very unprofessional guess is 2 oz
Yea thanks for the opinion, im hoping for more than that. I want at least 30z! Its still has like 3 weeks until harvest so hopefully it will pack on much more weight.
As for the 400w thread i havent seen one. I have searched this site pretty thouroughly and havent seen one. But good luck finding one!
 

UnKlE SaM

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see i didnt even know how far you were alone my guess was what that pics looks like now... im sure you can get three then
 

Doobieus

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As far as the yield question....

How far into flower is she?

Also right now by the looks of it I'd say 2-3 ounces also, after dry weight.
 

trainwreckz

Member
I dont know about 30oz,I would say about 3-5 myself.She looks a little droopy though.
hahaha thats my bad, i def meant 3oz
i would have to be mental to think that she could get almost 2 pounds!!

Yea she is a little droopy, i think it was because i had a couple realllly hot days and she didnt like the heat. I now have added a fan plus an AC unit for when it gets hot!!
Any other ideas on why shes a little droopy?
 

Doobieus

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hahaha thats my bad, i def meant 3oz
i would have to be mental to think that she could get almost 2 pounds!!

Yea she is a little droopy, i think it was because i had a couple realllly hot days and she didnt like the heat. I now have added a fan plus an AC unit for when it gets hot!!
Any other ideas on why shes a little droopy?
Under watering can cause it too, over watering can too, but in this case I'm thinking under watering and heat. The leaves and the leaves stems are droopy not just the leaves themselves.
 

trainwreckz

Member
well i agree the leaves look a little droopy, but the stems are droppy because she has had a small amount of LST to encourage growth on the lower parts of the stem. But thank you, i will increase the watering and see how that goes!
 

AlteredBeast

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I'm not sure if you can tell too much from the pics but I'll try to explain. In my closet I have built a cabinet. It has three chambers. Cloning, vegging, and flowering. The dimensions of my flower chamber are 3' front to back, 2' wide, and 6' tall. As you can see I have a 250w hps, two 10.0uvb 20w tubes, and two 45w led panels. The whole thing is lined with mylar. I don't raise and lower my lights, its too much trouble so I've made a shelf with multiple height adjustments. So I'm aware that a 250w hps should cover a 3'x3' area. And I'm aware that the light to plant distance should be as short as possible without hurting the plant. The trouble I have is that when the plants are the optimal distance from the light, there is an area of about 6"-8" long and spans the whole 2' width of the chamber that just barely gets any light even on the tops of the plants. And the worst part is that these dark spots are in the front and the back. So at optimal distance from light bulb to plant I'm only able to cover an area of about 2'x2'. As you can see in the pic my 250w reflector has some pretty steep angles which I'm thinking are focusing the light to a smaller area. If this were your problem how would you fix it?
 

AlteredBeast

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I'm not sure if you can tell too much from the pics but I'll try to explain. In my closet I have built a cabinet. It has three chambers. Cloning, vegging, and flowering. The dimensions of my flower chamber are 3' front to back, 2' wide, and 6' tall. As you can see I have a 250w hps, two 10.0uvb 20w tubes, and two 45w led panels. The whole thing is lined with mylar. I don't raise and lower my lights, its too much trouble so I've made a shelf with multiple height adjustments. So I'm aware that a 250w hps should cover a 3'x3' area. And I'm aware that the light to plant distance should be as short as possible without hurting the plant. The trouble I have is that when the plants are the optimal distance from the light, there is an area of about 6"-8" long and spans the whole 2' width of the chamber that just barely gets any light even on the tops of the plants. And the worst part is that these dark spots are in the front and the back. So at optimal distance from light bulb to plant I'm only able to cover an area of about 2'x2'. As you can see in the pic my 250w reflector has some pretty steep angles which I'm thinking are focusing the light to a smaller area. If this were your problem how would you fix it?
Let me try again on the pics. OK here they are. I just took them, the date on my cam is wrong. It sat for about six months til I used it last week. lol
 

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AlteredBeast

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I see only two options. Either sacrifice lumens and make the distance from light to plant greater til the whole area is covered or make my own reflector. Any other ideas?
 
What's up lady and fellows? Big hug :hug:I'm using Alaskan morbloom with NPK 0-10-10. Past pics was using it too and it seems to work. So, question: by the end of flowering will most pistils change color? As far a resin glands to determine harvest time, are they going to be on the buds and leaves? Is there any way to speed up flowering time? Thanks :weed:
 

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Grazzmon

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Yea i thought this would be cool thanks...anyone got any 250w grows going or old grow pix??
Hello,
Nice, a club just for us 250 HPSrs...lol. I have my first grow going and have pics..

Nirvana PPP fem
Ebb and flow
250 watt hps and 276 watts cfl side lighting
GH Nutes (Lucas Formula)
30 days at 12/12

Pics..

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"If your not a head, your behind..."
 

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Doobieus

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I see only two options. Either sacrifice lumens and make the distance from light to plant greater til the whole area is covered or make my own reflector. Any other ideas?
Raise the light up so it hits all your plants and move the plants up. Tupperware, pots, pans, books, boxes, whatever you can.

Another suggestion is to get either mylar or panda/poly film. It will reflect light around your grow room so you don't lose light. Htg carries panda/poly film as well as mylar on both their website and ebay store.

Hope this helps.

What's up lady and fellows? Big hug :hug:I'm using Alaskan morbloom with NPK 0-10-10. Past pics was using it too and it seems to work. So, question: by the end of flowering will most pistils change color? As far a resin glands to determine harvest time, are they going to be on the buds and leaves? Is there any way to speed up flowering time? Thanks :weed:
Lol nice combination of the names the Sp4ce lol. The resin glands or trichomes can be found on buds and on leaves close to the bud. Strains do have a factor on how far the trichomes reach out. Pistils do change color by harvest time, sometimes the plant will keep going and going but that's usually strain dependent again. Pistils also change color from damage or rough handling, and there's no real way to speed up flowering time that I know of anyway. I don't expect an infant to grow into an adult in 2 years, just like I don't expect my plants to be done in 2 weeks.

Nice plants in the pics by the way dude.

Hello,
Nice, a club just for us 250 HPSrs...lol. I have my first grow going and have pics..

Nirvana PPP fem
Ebb and flow
250 watt hps and 276 watts cfl side lighting
GH Nutes (Lucas Formula)
30 days at 12/12

Pics..

G

"If your not a head, your behind..."
Welcome to the club Grazzmon, always good to have another 250 HPS'r as you say lol.

Looking good for your first grow dude, keep it up.
 

Grazzmon

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I see only two options. Either sacrifice lumens and make the distance from light to plant greater til the whole area is covered or make my own reflector. Any other ideas?
There is another option if you have room, get some 23 watt soft white CFL's and hang them for side lighting. I have 12 of them surrounding my grow and even the lower flowers are developing nicely and getting pretty frosty :-P This allows me to get the HPS close to the tops and still have light for the rest of the plant without raising the temps.


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Mindmelted

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Hello,
Nice, a club just for us 250 HPSrs...lol. I have my first grow going and have pics..

Nirvana PPP fem
Ebb and flow
250 watt hps and 276 watts cfl side lighting
GH Nutes (Lucas Formula)
30 days at 12/12

Pics..

G

"If your not a head, your behind..."

Welcome to the club Grazzman.
Great job on your first grow,They look nice.Any questions feel free to ask.I am sure someone will try and help you out.:peace:
 
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