4 leaf sets per node?????

I am on my fourth grow myself, and wouldn't even begin to consider myself "experienced". Just sayin'.

Sweet plant though! I'll definitely be following to check the progress.

I've lstd the shit outa two plants. I wasn't starting a pissin contest or anythin so what's with it man. I think I have a natural feel for plants ive got pretty green thumb. So

I wasn't saying I'm a ganja god just that the "light in my dark room is on" when it comes to growing plants I think I can hold my own I learn really fast and have spent the last six months studying 8 hrs a day so

I have a trifoliar plant. One in veg and one 'bout ripe. They're weird, they'll start off really hearty and and above the rest and then.... The one that I have in flower is not turning out as productive than originally anticipated but I got 'em in my seed pool now. LST made little difference fo rit since it grew to the size of the topped plants or maybe it just didn't like the super soil that its in. In fact it the main stem eventually grew a "Y" forming two long little gooey colas and the rest of the plant isn't that impressive. So I wouldn't top them. I'm trying it in super soiless veganics next.

elduece said:

I have a trifoliar plant. One in veg and one 'bout ripe. They're weird, they'll start off really hearty and and above the rest and then.... The one that I have in flower is not turning out as productive than originally anticipated but I got 'em in my seed pool now. LST made little difference fo rit since it grew to the size of the topped plants or maybe it just didn't like the super soil that its in. In fact it the main stem eventually grew a "Y" forming two long little gooey colas and the rest of the plant isn't that impressive. So I wouldn't top them. I'm trying it in super soiless veganics next.

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Interesting.... I'm way excited and hope the quadrifoliar continues.

Imma sub this thread, keep us updated, I'm interested to see this 4 way grow.

Jiggaboo Taylor said:

Um search google for quadrifoliate cannabis and tell me what you find man... I think it's something better than just "xtra fan leaves". if I were to top that beautiful plant a couple nodes above the quadrifoliate. It would throw off 4 colas from each site. So. You tell me bro. I think the thread speaks for it's self

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So you're question is what will happen if you top it? I guess since you don't have 2 to compare the difference we won't really ever know who's right. I have been growing for 8 solid years now and I was just letting you know that from my experience, you're not going to get extra bud, if you have more colas then you'll have smaller buds on each cola. Total weight is mostly based on the healthiness of the root system and not really how many colas you have. The extra fan leaves could help to take in more lumens which would help it grow better though.

Sub up man it'll be interesting

I have a cheese plant that I am training for scrog. It has done something similar. It has branches that are three nodes ,as well as two that have four. It also has responded to topping by producing branches and new growth out of existing meristem. The branches with four nodes are the same deal . They grew out of the side of an already existing branch. The strain is Dinafems cheese. I'll take new pictures today.

I would make some seeds.....

I do know with the cherry tomatoes I grew the more runners the smaller the fruit.

I don't know if that applies the same here.

I've got to clone her first. Being that alot of people have ran these genetics from Dinafem. I would think someone else would have ran across this. I wonder how hard it would be to breed for mutated trait. If you could get it to come out everytime

The name for this mutation is whorled phyllotaxy

Its not a mutation its a loss of apical dominance i.e. somthing your doing wrong.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/omg-plant-gone-crazy.448247/

seems like im only one of a few that can speak from experience although i wish there were more so that it wouldnt be shrouded in mystery. It is not a genetic trait in any way shape or form like some growers describe...

Kingrow1 said:

Its not a mutation its a loss of apical dominance i.e. somthing your doing wrong.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/omg-plant-gone-crazy.448247/

seems like im only one of a few that can speak from experience although i wish there were more so that it wouldnt be shrouded in mystery. It is not a genetic trait in any way shape or form like some growers describe...

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So basically stress related?

Uberknot said:

So basically stress related?

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Yes or breeders would have commercialized it years ago, these adaptations help mj make it through the bad years in the wild...

Kingrow1 said:

Yes or breeders would have commercialized it years ago, these adaptations help mj make it through the bad years in the wild...

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@GroErr might disagree, he is breeding to stabilize the triployd trait is one of jhis strains

Sire Killem All said:

@GroErr might disagree, he is breeding to stabilize the triployd trait is one of jhis strains

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In my time here ive witnessed many try to breed these traits, funny how no ones managed it yet. Theres reality and theres bs, i think the word you and groeer is looking for is trifolate not triploid, two complete different subject a lot seem to confuse together...

King grow one. I don't exactly know where your getting your information. But whorled phyllotaxy is definitely a trait. To say that people are wrong is a pretty grandiose statement. Plants express triploidism/or odd growth patterns in almost all types of plants. Cannabis included, in this case at least. How do you contend one could make a seedling do this is beyond me. It also probably has alot to do with hormones. Maybe an imbalance just like how naturally occurring hermaphrodism happens. The hormones bunch together and then the plant grow male flowers in that area. Maybe the same happens with this new growth. Early in the life cycle hormones are everywhere and with lst ,topping ext implemented these hormones will be searching for new homes. That's where these new branches come from ,or the three/four sided growth pattern

(Disclaimer i may mix up some terminology, please don't quote me or take what I say to be fact)

Lets start with some basics and hard facts...

*Polyploid* cells and organisms are those containing more than two paired (hoemologous) sets of chromosomes.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyploid

No where does ploidy describe a tri leafed plant, some noob growers with little understanding of biology/genetics saw the word 'Tri' and grouped triploids and trifolates together. Ploidy is really very very very rare in cannabis but common in some other plants like pumpkins.

Once you understand the difference you can start ignoring all them douches that go on about it. This has been explained and said on many weed sites as fact, i cannot help that many noobs go on about ploidy and mix up easily google'able facts.

Whorlled phyllotaxy is also common in a few species but once again not mj. Youll find mj's leaf pattern to be symetrical or alternating.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllotaxis

The fact that i can find this info on a base reference site leaves a lot to be desired with growers that post alternate info which generally wreaks of bs!

There is a lot more but i think you need to first satitsfy yourself that you have a basic understanding of what ploidy is and isnt before we discuss how tri leafed seedlings and four nodes happen.

I don't think I ever used any of these terms, except for whorled phyllotaxy. Which I found on Google. Which is my only reference point alot of times. I am simply describing what I see. Not giving botany classes. I have never contended that this was a good or bad. Neither did I claim to have any knowledge of advanced botany. I simply said something interesting is happening. That I hadn't seen it before. And asking for opinions or advice or to just simply write it down. Mainly I would like to hear from someone who grew this particular strain. Thank you though.