400W 800PPFD in a 4x4 can it be done?

MeGaKiLlErMaN

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show what ? the osram run?...........generally you cut/hang until the stem is almost snapping then into the bag/freezer/jars whatever...

the only thing I have documented on here showing the diff is my #3rd party cup win

WET weight at the bottom of the page 106.g
https://www.rollitup.org/t/3rd-party-cup-growoff-official-update-thread.700720/page-25
DRY weight on the next page after a couple of days 25.6g
https://www.rollitup.org/t/3rd-party-cup-growoff-official-update-thread.700720/page-26
Nah I just wanted to read about all the specifics that there would be for the OSRAM stuff... 2.5G/W is something crazy and I would like to see the specifics.
 

Evil-Mobo

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yeah I plan on running just one tent with 6 plants at a time. I'd like to keep my light budget around $500-$600 give or take. I could spring more if the lights are that good. Thanks.
Hard to beat these lights right now for the sale price:
https://northerngrowlights.com/collections/all/products/photon-180v-led-grow-light

Grab (2) of those in the 4000K.........

There's your $600 :) You can start there and run 4 plants then grab a third light when funds allow and you will be good to go. But as @JorgeGonzales said good luck getting solid PPFD for veg AND flower with just $600 if you're not building your own light. And even then it will take some luck on pricing for a few things.

Or wait until you have another $300 and get all three.

Just my $0.02
 

BullShark

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Hard to beat these lights right now for the sale price:
https://northerngrowlights.com/collections/all/products/photon-180v-led-grow-light

Grab (2) of those in the 4000K.........

There's your $600 :) You can start there and run 4 plants then grab a third light when funds allow and you will be good to go. But as @JorgeGonzales said good luck getting solid PPFD for veg AND flower with just $600 if you're not building your own light. And even then it will take some luck on pricing for a few things.

Or wait until you have another $300 and get all three.

Just my $0.02
Thank you. I could do $900. If you're going to do something might as well do it right. Thank you for pointing someone with zero LED experience in the right direction. I've done plenty of CFL grows and want to get bigger buds. I managed this with just 152watts of CFL in 2.5 square feet. This plant is at 7 weeks flowering in this pic.
 

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Evil-Mobo

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Thank you. I could do $900. If you're going to do something might as well do it right. Thank you for pointing someone with zero LED experience in the right direction. I've done plenty of CFL grows and want to get bigger buds. I managed this with just 152watts of CFL in 2.5 square feet. This plant is at 7 weeks flowering in this pic.
No sweat bro I'm just being honest at that price he's got them it's hard to pass. @robincnn has great CS too and is always around to help if you need him. I'm sure he's tired of my emails from the stuff I got from him for my DIY lights. 3 of those in your area according to the calculator on his site puts you at @632 PPFD and that should definitely rock the house in your space. Also the lights have dimmers so you can go ramping up the light as the plants grow from clone/seedling, to veg, to flower.

Good luck!
 

BullShark

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No sweat bro I'm just being honest at that price he's got them it's hard to pass. @robincnn has great CS too and is always around to help if you need him. I'm sure he's tired of my emails from the stuff I got from him for my DIY lights. 3 of those in your area according to the calculator on his site puts you at @632 PPFD and that should definitely rock the house in your space. Also the lights have dimmers so you can go ramping up the light as the plants grow from clone/seedling, to veg, to flower.

Good luck!
Thanks again. Now that I have my new tent and ventilation equipment I can start working on light. I was going to use 2 400w HPS but I'd thought I'd give LEDs a try.
 

Evil-Mobo

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Make sure you have the height to have the lights at the recommended distance to canopy we had not discussed that and I just thought of it.
 

BullShark

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Make sure you have the height to have the lights at the recommended distance to canopy we had not discussed that and I just thought of it.
My tent is over 6 feet tall, I think I should be ok. The one concern I had with LED was light burn from what I've read so far. After growing with CFL for so long I've become pretty good and keeping my plants short and having to check on light distance. Again, thank you. I'm planning on doing some White Widow and White Rhino from Nirvana side by side.
 

Evil-Mobo

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My tent is over 6 feet tall, I think I should be ok. The one concern I had with LED was light burn from what I've read so far. After growing with CFL for so long I've become pretty good and keeping my plants short and having to check on light distance. Again, thank you. I'm planning on doing some White Widow and White Rhino from Nirvana side by side.
Let me know when you do I will follow along. My first plant was a NL from Nirvana and I was VERY pleased with it. Good luck you have plenty of headroom.

Cheers! :bigjoint:
 

BullShark

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Let me know when you do I will follow along. My first plant was a NL from Nirvana and I was VERY pleased with it. Good luck you have plenty of headroom.

Cheers! :bigjoint:
I actually have NL and bubbelicious from Nirvana too. One of my first grows was NL, but I'm not sure where it came from, a buddy got seeds from B.C. back in the early 2000's. Very forgiving strain, as I was totally inexperienced at the time.
 

Evil-Mobo

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I actually have NL and bubbelicious from Nirvana too. One of my first grows was NL, but I'm not sure where it came from, a buddy got seeds from B.C. back in the early 2000's. Very forgiving strain, as I was totally inexperienced at the time.
Same with me was my first photo period to flower out and got a 1/2 lb dry with a lot of topping and main lining and an 8 week veg lol....... and yes very forgiving plant
 

sixstring2112

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show what ? the osram run?...........generally you cut/hang until the stem is almost snapping then into the bag/freezer/jars whatever...

the only thing I have documented on here showing the diff is my #3rd party cup win

WET weight at the bottom of the page 106.g
https://www.rollitup.org/t/3rd-party-cup-growoff-official-update-thread.700720/page-25
DRY weight on the next page after a couple of days 25.6g
https://www.rollitup.org/t/3rd-party-cup-growoff-official-update-thread.700720/page-26
yeah its pretty much 75% all the time for me as well bro.but the cool thing about that is im pullin around 4-5 pounds.....wet.... from 600w lmao :eyesmoke:
 

Randomblame

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yes im sure, they are only allowed to sell citizen cob to poland. Citizen it self told them to sell then only in poland..
i asked them allready 2 times via email, they gave me both time the same answer. They told me to contact offical distributer for germany..

Okay, thanks Malocan!
Then I have to look elsewhere for a distributor ...

Edit:
Found one for my country but It seems you need a commercial to buy there:

1825C4, 3000k
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-303m2k1
1825C4, 3500k
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-353m2k1
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-353h5k2

Will try to get some samples over a friendly shop operator I know. Someone(maybe you) already bought from there?
 

BM9AGS

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yeah its pretty much 75% all the time for me as well bro.but the cool thing about that is im pullin around 4-5 pounds.....wet.... from 600w lmao :eyesmoke:
sounds like you and RM3 got the floro skillz mastered! I'd love to see RM3 do a led grow so when you get a led, and its not mars id love to see a grow on this site
 

Malocan

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Okay, thanks Malocan!
Then I have to look elsewhere for a distributor ...

Edit:
Found one for my country but It seems you need a commercial to buy there:

1825C4, 3000k
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-303m2k1
1825C4, 3500k
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-353m2k1
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-353h5k2

Will try to get some samples over a friendly shop operator I know. Someone(maybe you) already bought from there?
hi,
hm... im too from germany.
endrich sucks hard... 1st they sell only business to business, 2nd they have high prices.. i asked them allready too:(
i asked for for clu058-1825, they told me i have to buy minimum 20 pcs and one cob cost over 50euro each+tax(19%)...pfff

i bought my over a good friends wife, her mother life in poland.. so she could order in poland(tme.pl) :)

I think cobkits.com and not Northern Grow Lights are still good options for europa
 

coreywebster

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Okay, thanks Malocan!
Then I have to look elsewhere for a distributor ...

Edit:
Found one for my country but It seems you need a commercial to buy there:

1825C4, 3000k
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-303m2k1
1825C4, 3500k
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-353m2k1
https://www.endrich.com/citizen_standard_cobs/clu058-1825c4-353h5k2

Will try to get some samples over a friendly shop operator I know. Someone(maybe you) already bought from there?
I bought mine from Northern grow lights. Got a good deal on the 058s.
You could try primelight.com they are in the UK and prefer to sell trays of 20 but will try and source smaller amounts from other suppliers at a slightly higher cost. They are also getting into supplying heat sinks too. I cant remember the prices other than £31 for clu058 and about £10-13 for the 1212s. Theres a dude in Estonia selling the older 046 1212s for very cheap but they are a good chunk less efficient I am told.
I still went with Northern grow lights though, I cant ask advice on setting up a grow light from a UK company:oops:
 

sixstring2112

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sounds like you and RM3 got the floro skillz mastered! I'd love to see RM3 do a led grow so when you get a led, and its not mars id love to see a grow on this site
you should do a lil reading around in this here led section and you can in fact see a grow,,from me,,,with leds,,,other than mars lol.heres a lil teaser till you find the thread,please dont use myself and rm3 in any type of parallel comparisons because if you knew me better you would know i think he's a putz,putting it politely lmao.

20160918_200314.jpg
 

PSUAGRO.

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Nah I just wanted to read about all the specifics that there would be for the OSRAM stuff... 2.5G/W is something crazy and I would like to see the specifics.
didn't get 2.5g/w, it was a joke about Growmau5 boosting his #s......... was around 2g/w on my second run, DRY WEIGHT,lol

https://www.rollitup.org/t/testing-osrams-150w-horticultural-led-fixture-v1-monochromatic-dream-or-nightmare.867782/

Do you still have youre Zelion HL?
no, went back to the distributor and now it's going into a sphere for ppf/w testing
 
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