62f too cold?

jesburger

Active Member
DWC setup. I need to triple check my thermometer to make sure it's kosher, but so far the frozen bottle method is super effective.

I'm getting between 62 and 65 degrees on my 50 liter res. Without the bottle it can go up to almost 70, my iceprobe can keep it at 68-69, but I don't like it running all the time. If I can get rid of it I will.

Is this 62 to 65 too cold, should I be worried about slower growth?
 

er0senin

Well-Known Member
optimal growth occurs at 68-86 farenheit so you should try and land somewhere in between. of course there is more to it than only temps..

your values will work but it can work better. add more lights or move lights closer :) :)
 

jesburger

Active Member
optimal growth occurs at 68-86 farenheit so you should try and land somewhere in between. of course there is more to it than only temps..

your values will work but it can work better. add more lights or move lights closer :) :)
you're telling me that having my res at 83 degrees would be better?
Riiiiiight...
 

jesburger

Active Member
I just checked after two hours that I removed the bottle, temps still going down!!

Maybe I shouldn't have done such a fantastic job isolating my res :P
 

GreenThumbSucker

Well-Known Member
DWC setup. I need to triple check my thermometer to make sure it's kosher, but so far the frozen bottle method is super effective.

I'm getting between 62 and 65 degrees on my 50 liter res. Without the bottle it can go up to almost 70, my iceprobe can keep it at 68-69, but I don't like it running all the time. If I can get rid of it I will.

Is this 62 to 65 too cold, should I be worried about slower growth?
Nice job. Soooo perfect. I have run a reservoir in the 50s for months on end with no discernible difference in growth. You will experience very few problems with your reservoir in that temperature range.
 

mike91sr

Well-Known Member
you're telling me that having my res at 83 degrees would be better?
Riiiiiight...
He is right. 86f has been proven in university studies to have THE fastest growth rate for tomato plants. The risk just isn't worth it though.

62 will be easier to deal with, way less risk for any problems and that much more DO content. Any change in growth is going to be minimal at most.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
He is right. 86f has been proven in university studies to have THE fastest growth rate for tomato plants. The risk just isn't worth it though.

62 will be easier to deal with, way less risk for any problems and that much more DO content. Any change in growth is going to be minimal at most.
Is that 86ºF topside, or root zone? cn
 

mike91sr

Well-Known Member
Honestly I cant even tell if theyre talking about dwc or aero. I know dwc would hold very little oxygen at that level, but if you can get enough airflow through stones it would still be fine, the plants get plenty of oxygen directly from the bubbles, not DO.

http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/73/1/46.full.pdf


Based on fresh and dry weight and leaf area, the optimal
root-zone temperature for seedlin growth was 30°C
. The carbon exchange
rate of the leaves was also found to increase with rising root-zone
temperature up to 30°C. However, a more complex relationship seems to
exist between root-zone temperature and the accumulation of 14C-labeled
assimilates in the roots; inasmuch as there is no enhancemnt in this
accumulation at the most growth promoting root-zone temperatures (22-
300C).

Tomato seeds (Lycopersicon esculentum Mill. cv Vendor) sown
in vermiculite were pricked out after 2 weeks and inserted
through cylindrical holes drilled in 4-cm-thick styrofoam. The
seedlings were secured in place with a ring of soft clay which
formed an insulating seal between the plant shoot and plant root.
With the cotyledons emerging from above and the roots hanging
from below, the styrofoam was fitted tightly into a plastic bin
containing 22 L of half-strength Hoagland solution (pH 6.0).
The nutrient solution was thermostatically controlled to ± 0.5°C
of the desired temperature and was kept at maximum level by
adding half-strength Hoagland solution. The temperature of the
solution had no effect on the temperature of the seedling shoot.


Growth. Tomato plants grown for 2 weeks in a range of rootzone
temperatures showed an increase in growth as the root
temperatures increased from 10°C to 30C, with a precipitous
decrease in growth above 32.2°C (Fig. 1). This is in agreement
with published results (5, 16, 17, 19).
 

devolv

Active Member
i was gonna say oxygen is one thing but the colder you get the harder you make it for your beneficials and the like to thrive thus being very affective....just sayin....82 degrees is what my seeds always pop at, which is root growth....i don't see why it wouldn't be the same for all stages of plant life. you just have to maintain your system more cleanly...have a good enzyme, mycos & bacterial regiment.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
optimal growth occurs at 68-86 farenheit so you should try and land somewhere in between. of course there is more to it than only temps..

your values will work but it can work better. add more lights or move lights closer :) :)
I dont care if its the right temps for optimal growth lol good luck not geting slime or root rot!

Safe zone 62-70 tops 68 being my fav!
 

matt7835706

Well-Known Member
optimal growth occurs at 68-86 farenheit so you should try and land somewhere in between. of course there is more to it than only temps..

your values will work but it can work better. add more lights or move lights closer :) :)

^^^^thats wrong, res should be optimum 65, 75 max, 60 min. Oxygen disolves best into colder water.

Edit: hellraiser beat me to it, yep hes right too,
 

jesburger

Active Member
I think my temps were good but my ph was too high (I didn't have my tester yet, and the strips are worthless)
is it possible I screwed up my seedlings by having them at 7.5-7.8 for a few days? no nutes only water
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think my temps were good but my ph was too high (I didn't have my tester yet, and the strips are worthless)
is it possible I screwed up my seedlings by having them at 7.5-7.8 for a few days? no nutes only water
That's too high. If they recover, no harm ... but do they look injured? cn
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I have found that minding pH in a hydro grow is one of the most attention-hungry parts of the program. There's no substitute for having a good meter imo. Best luck ... once you have your pH dialed, growth should resume ... I'm hoping. cn
 

jesburger

Active Member
I have found that minding pH in a hydro grow is one of the most attention-hungry parts of the program. There's no substitute for having a good meter imo. Best luck ... once you have your pH dialed, growth should resume ... I'm hoping. cn
I hope so too
 

GreenThumbSucker

Well-Known Member
The colder the solution gets the more dissolved oxygen it can hold, but the less oxygen the roots can take up. The warmer the solution gets, the less oxygen it can hold, but the more oxygen the roots can uptake. There are trade offs at every temperature.

Just sayin...

Like someone said, warm reservoir isn't worth the problems that come with it.
 
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