A new respect for the dead

I had a very interesting and moving emotional experience on LSD last night.... Let me give a little back story first: If your squeamish this may bother you a little.

In August of 2010 I was almost killed in an auto accident. Fortunately no one else was hurt ( guy merged into my fender on a 65 mph highway and spun me out....). I've had numerous surgery's and procedures over the past 3 years, including bone and tissue transplants from donors. Not to be morbid, but I have 'spare parts' from no less then 4 people in my body. I've always been appreciative of there gifts, and I am a registered donor myself.

Last night I took a hit of silver and I had a very profound experience. About 2 hours in I noticed that the left side of my body felt very different to me, that's the side all my reconstructive surgery's have been on. It didn't take long for me to make that connection. I normally don't have much feeling (other then pain) on those parts. They felt tingly and touching/rubbing them seemed to illicit a warm feeling, I mean a warm/loving emotion not a physical sensation of warmth. It felt like a small part of that donors soul was still attached to those parts and that they were happy that they could help me. I broke down crying, I mean sobbing like a little baby.... Trust me, a 250 pound 6' tall bearded man in tears is a pathetic sight lol. My gf thought I was having a bad trip until I managed to explain to her what I was feeling. I've always been appreciative of their gifts, but I never considered the possibility that I could be carrying a part of their souls around with me. It felt like the more I got emotional trying to thank them, the more they wanted to console me. I guess I always felt a little guilty that although indirectly, someone's death has helped me to live. Once I just accepted it I felt so at peace with myself, like an internal conflict that I didn't even know I had was finally resolved. Much like the accident, this was truly a life changing moment for me.

Thank you for sharing you experience! As the child of an organ donor it was nice to read. Though I totally expected something else when I opened this thread.

MrEDuck said:

Thank you for sharing you experience! As the child of an organ donor it was nice to read. Though I totally expected something else when I opened this thread.

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I kinda figured you and Rory were going to think of the 'other' dead. Sorry, I have a habit of trying to lighten up serious subjects.

Its always sad to lose a loved one, hopefully your family member was able to make a difference in somebody's life. I actually emailed the hospital today to see if there is any way to send a card/letter to the donors families.

Depending on the donation there may be. I exchanged a few letters with the guy who got one of my dad's kidneys. He's younger than I am. The people at the hospital were really helpful.
To tie things back in Phil Lesh had his life saved by organ donation and many dead heads are organ donors because of his work to get people to donate.

Awesome story man!

I loved the story but I am an ass so I have to put in my two cents.

Maybe you were tripping on the surgeons and modern medicine too? I mean how fantastic is it that we live with modern medicine. Maybe the patch work created the feeling of sincere appreciation for the help of fellow man.

Only cuz I am just sayin' I don't believe in souls... and I really hope we don't have to stick around if a piece of our body lives on...lol.....

you make me NOT want to donate now...LOL no, I still will leave it on my ID but now I understand the commitment could be much deeper.... lol fuck

Awesome man!! Experiences like that are life changing..my sisters heart still beats in someone else chest,and I know she would have been happy to know she saved someone elses life...
I was an organ doner long before she died or phil lesh ended a show with his ronor rap,and urge everyone who can to sign up to be a donor..I doubt my lungs or liver would be of any use tho..lol

Impman said:

Awesome story man!

I loved the story but I am an ass so I have to put in my two cents.

Maybe you were tripping on the surgeons and modern medicine too? I mean how fantastic is it that we live with modern medicine. Maybe the patch work created the feeling of sincere appreciation for the help of fellow man.

Only cuz I am just sayin' I don't believe in souls... and I really hope we don't have to stick around if a piece of our body lives on...lol.....

you make me NOT want to donate now...LOL no, I still will leave it on my ID but now I understand the commitment could be much deeper.... lol fuck

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I can respect your opinion man. I choose to believe that we have souls simply because I would hate to think that this life is the pinnacle of my existence. Like you said though it really comes down to me gaining a sincere appreciation for what my fellow man gave me. Maybe its best to think of it as an echo of the donors soul?

Thanks for the share...what an experience, I love the shift and what it gives to us...
Although I am an empirical kinda guy and don't believe in souls, it's still a great read and sounds like an amazing experience...

I left my opinion outta the convo..I don think were discussing souls,more the realization of love and kindness that you have been so fortunate to have through strangers,was brought to you through the channels lsd works through..wild to realize what you've taken for granted is staring you in the face,saying 'well,where's the gratitude..' and when you've neglected to have much gratitude,it all pours over the damn and you're hit with a flood of emotions..I had the same thing happen on shrooms..I cried all moning about the wrong things I've done in my life(even picking on my little brothedr as a kid)..in the end I realized all the love in the world and devoted myself in sharing that love..and I suppose that's why I sold so much lsd and mdma in my youth..trying to turn the tide of hate in a modern day shamanistic endevor so to speak..much love bro!

I left my opinion outta the convo..I don think were discussing souls,more the realization of love and kindness that you have been so fortunate to have through strangers,was brought to you through the channels lsd works through..wild to realize what you've taken for granted is staring you in the face,saying 'well,where's the gratitude..' and when you've neglected to have much gratitude,it all pours over the damn and you're hit with a flood of emotions..I had the same thing happen on shrooms..I cried all moning about the wrong things I've done in my life(even picking on my little brothedr as a kid)..in the end I realized all the love in the world and devoted myself in sharing that love..and I suppose that's why I sold so much lsd and mdma in my youth..trying to turn the tide of hate in a modern day shamanistic endevor so to speak..much love bro!

the spirit/soul is something that has to be felt/experienced. can't be proven so i understand why one wouldn't "believe" in it. but it can definitely be felt and it changes things

rory420420 said:

I left my opinion outta the convo..I don think were discussing souls,more the realization of love and kindness that you have been so fortunate to have through strangers,was brought to you through the channels lsd works through..wild to realize what you've taken for granted is staring you in the face,saying 'well,where's the gratitude..' and when you've neglected to have much gratitude,it all pours over the damn and you're hit with a flood of emotions..I had the same thing happen on shrooms..I cried all moning about the wrong things I've done in my life(even picking on my little brothedr as a kid)..in the end I realized all the love in the world and devoted myself in sharing that love..and I suppose that's why I sold so much lsd and mdma in my youth..trying to turn the tide of hate in a modern day shamanistic endevor so to speak..much love bro!

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I wasn't trying to be controversial, its simply the way I interpreted my experience. I don't intend to impose my beliefs on others, I have a strong need to rationalize things.... but yeah, it all boils down to me really realizing just how much a complete stranger has done for me.

I guess I should thank Santa for providing me with the means to have this beautiful experience. Hopefully he reads these forums

Thanks ADHD,
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My dad died unexpectedly in October. When he was alive, he spoke against organ and tissue donation-- always said he didn't want his corpse all cut up. The night of his passing, I was with his widdow making funeral plans when a call came in. I could tell from the widdow's reaction that she was being upset by the call. I was handed the phone and found out it was a tissue donation organization-- my father had unknown to us signed up to be a donor just a few weeks before.

I have been proud of him for it since then, making that kind of change quietly, the way he tended to do things. This story gives me a whole new feeling of gratitude and love for the man.

Thanks.

I had no idea this was going to touch so many people. I'm sorry for your losses, and I glad I could share my experience with you all.

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I wasn't trying to be contrary either..hence,I kept my opinion outta it regarding souls!

Amazing story! I believe that the soul is spread throughout the body, so in my opinion this is quite possible. I also believe that, while sober, you can't connect to the spirit world as efficiently and the LSD opened the door to let you feel the positive emotions that the donors are feeling up in heaven. You have been given a gift, and the best gift you can give back is your gratitude.